Moyes?

[ciggiesnbeer]

IMO Rodgers would be a more progressive appointment if we can't snare Beisla or de Boer.

Why this thing with Biesla. He had no consistent track record, is 60 years old and not won a bean. Limited managerial experience in Europe as well

He is a genius. I would happily watch us get relegated with him in charge. Because we would be worth watching. Not that I think he would get us relegated but his teams are so entertaining regardless I would be genuinely proud if he joined our club, it would be one of the few times Lerners Villa actually impressed me in ambition.

I hope it happens.

/spoiler
It wont

[ozzjim]

I agree to an extent Monty, but Ranieri had managed here before, Mourinho, Benitez, Ancellotti, Pelligrini all came into clubs at the top with big budgets and existing frameworks to build success with. Pocchetino although coming in towards the bottom at the time, came to a club with an incredibly tight knit group of very well established talented players and organised them slightly differently to Adkins who to that point had done a brilliant job, that many lauded. It is a shame he has not kicked on elsewhere, but it says much about the stability at Southampton and the structure in place that they can change manager without too many issues, likewise Swansea. We don't have that. We don't have an established style of play through the structure to bring kids through to the first team, we don't have a footballing philosephy from the top down and we certainly don't have stability on the pitch. I think we are crying out for a steadying hand at the moment, that will galvanise us and give the first team down some structure. For me Moyes is a good bet. Looking at Everton he did well with some of the youth, they had a steady belt of players come through, he bought reasonably well, some not so great, but he organised them to a tee, and we just seem such a mess at the moment he seems ideal if he wants it.

Got to get rid of Tim Sherwood first.

[Mister E]

I would take a half fit Houllier in a heart beat, he was the one that could have set us up if circumstances had been different.

Was that a phrase you deliberately used?

[Monty]

It's a cogent argument, Ozz. I just object to the generalising about 'foreign' managers, like they're all from one country - Abroad - and English up-and-at-'em will leave them floundering and bewildered, and probably gesticulating comically.

[ozzjim]

Cogent at this time of night, I like.

I am a bit disheartened they have not told him to do one today.

Although the "waiting for Moyes to get the boot" theory might have something in it.

[Mister E]

I agree to an extent Monty, but Ranieri had managed here before, Mourinho, Benitez, Ancellotti, Pelligrini all came into clubs at the top with big budgets and existing frameworks to build success with. Pocchetino although coming in towards the bottom at the time, came to a club with an incredibly tight knit group of very well established talented players and organised them slightly differently to Adkins who to that point had done a brilliant job, that many lauded. It is a shame he has not kicked on elsewhere, but it says much about the stability at Southampton and the structure in place that they can change manager without too many issues, likewise Swansea. We don't have that. We don't have an established style of play through the structure to bring kids through to the first team, we don't have a footballing philosephy from the top down and we certainly don't have stability on the pitch. I think we are crying out for a steadying hand at the moment, that will galvanise us and give the first team down some structure. For me Moyes is a good bet. Looking at Everton he did well with some of the youth, they had a steady belt of players come through, he bought reasonably well, some not so great, but he organised them to a tee, and we just seem such a mess at the moment he seems ideal if he wants it.

Got to get rid of Tim Sherwood first.

What does not appear to have happened over the last 10 years is the development of a stable backbone to the club as a whole. I refer as an example to Graham Taylor's comments back in 1987 about the state of the club. I also refer to the comments more recently on another thread to the effect that the academy seems to be losing its way.
Ergo, the incoming manager needs to bring the depth of pan-club experience to effect a root-and-branch change in what goes on at the club, working with Fox and others to make it happen.
That may mean Moyes would be a better choice than - say - Eddie Howe or Sean Dyche; but that de Boer may be even better ...
TBH, who the hell knows?!

[ROBBO]

I would take a half fit Houllier in a heart beat, he was the one that could have set us up if circumstances had been different.

Was that a phrase you deliberately used?

I thought it covered everything.

[Nastylee]

Klopp, Jose et al are in a different league to some of names being forwarded here. It's all academic anyway until TS gets the shove, and there's no indication from the club that it's even on the agenda. The papers are on it but then it's am obvious line to go down given our form.

[N'ZMAV]

Mark Hughes wouldn't have been a bad choice. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[Villa in Denmark]

Klopp, Jose et al are in a different league to some of names being forwarded here. It's all academic anyway until TS gets the shove, and there's no indication from the club that it's even on the agenda. The papers are on it but then it's am obvious line to go down given our form.

To play devils advocate, there had been no indication that Lambert was going to get the bullet, even in the aftermath of the Hull debacle.  A few people on here picked up on his body language looking like a man who knew the game was up but from the club nothing until the "We wish to thank Paul for his efforts" or however they phrased it.

[VILLA MOLE]

Mark Hughes wouldn't have been a bad choice. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

But even he had a bad time at QPR

[Clark W Griswold]

Mark Hughes wouldn't have been a bad choice. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

But even he had a bad time at QPR

I've been saying Hughes since 2011. He's had a lot more positives than negatives over the years and would have been a good fit. I'd fancy him to get us out of the shit as much as any other realistic targets we could go for.

Garry Monk linked this morning. Done a good job at Swansea, likeable guy but I think the set up was already put in place at Swansea and he's just continued that. There may be more to him than that but in my eyes it would be a gamble (again) that we shouldn't be taking.

[N'ZMAV]

Mark Hughes wouldn't have been a bad choice. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

But even he had a bad time at QPR

He's done well at Blackburn, Fulham, Wales and Stoke. Even did alright at City.

[N'ZMAV]

Mark Hughes wouldn't have been a bad choice. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

But even he had a bad time at QPR

I've been saying Hughes since 2011. He's had a lot more positives than negatives over the years and would have been a good fit. I'd fancy him to get us out of the shit as much as any other realistic targets we could go for.

Garry Monk linked this morning. Done a good job at Swansea, likeable guy but I think the set up was already put in place at Swansea and he's just continued that. There may be more to him than that but in my eyes it would be a gamble (again) that we shouldn't be taking.

Monk is benefiting from the setup at Swansea. I can't see him fitting in at a club where no-one knows what the fuck they're doing.

[The Laughing Policeman]

I see the Telegraph is touting Monk today. Personally I'd love to have him here but I just can't see it happening. Gary Monk