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Offline claret and blue blood

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #240 on: October 19, 2015, 10:27:27 PM »
Long term to me would be 3 wins in a row  , then take it from there!

Offline themossman

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #241 on: October 19, 2015, 10:46:02 PM »
Why this nonsense about him being 60, as though it's old for a manager? Capello was what 62 when he got the England job. Ranieri is 63.

Offline CT Villan

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« Reply #242 on: October 19, 2015, 10:53:26 PM »
Why this thing with Biesla. He had no consistent track record, is 60 years old and not won a bean. Limited managerial experience in Europe as well

Did you actually research that statement before posting, because it's not exactly true. I'm gonna go with Pep Guardiola (and others) when he described Bielsa as the best coach in world.

Anyway, what has Moyes, Rodgers, Pearson, et al ever won (I feel a Python sketch coming on...)

Offline Nastylee

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #243 on: October 19, 2015, 10:59:23 PM »
Do we really want to be gambling on some foreign chap that no ones heard of (unless you play computer games)? All these random names that people keep putting forward offer nothing, especially to a team that is in deep shite and sinking fast.  It's a bit like the transfer market - fans don't want the solid proven British player as the chap from some league no one knows anything about sounds sexier.

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #244 on: October 19, 2015, 11:11:15 PM »
Do we really want to be gambling on some foreign chap that no ones heard of (unless you play computer games)? All these random names that people keep putting forward offer nothing, especially to a team that is in deep shite and sinking fast.

How do you know they offer nothing, unless you play computer games, too, obviously?

Offline Nastylee

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #245 on: October 19, 2015, 11:17:01 PM »
I know that bringing someone in with no experience of the league or situation, in said league, is just as much of a gamble as sticking it out with TS, and cheaper.

Offline Nastylee

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #246 on: October 19, 2015, 11:18:18 PM »
PS: My game playing days are well and truly over :)

Online pauliewalnuts

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« Reply #247 on: October 19, 2015, 11:20:35 PM »
I know that bringing someone in with no experience of the league or situation, in said league, is just as much of a gamble as sticking it out with TS, and cheaper.

I would bank on an experienced manager from abroad who has never managed in this league having more chance than Sherwood any day of the week.

There's no point even considering sticking it out with Sherwood. Look what a gigantic pigs ear he's made of it already.

9 league games, 1 win, 1 draw, 7 defeats.

That's not just bad, that's properly shocking.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #248 on: October 19, 2015, 11:22:37 PM »
Just had a new thought for Championship Manager 16/17.
Managers should be able to visit fans forums to see what's going down .

Online paul_e

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #249 on: October 19, 2015, 11:23:06 PM »
Do we really want to be gambling on some foreign chap that no ones heard of (unless you play computer games)? All these random names that people keep putting forward offer nothing, especially to a team that is in deep shite and sinking fast.  It's a bit like the transfer market - fans don't want the solid proven British player as the chap from some league no one knows anything about sounds sexier.

Or maybe it's because of the last 5 managers 4 were british and have shown themselves up as tactically naive and a fair few people are fed up of seeing the same shit week after week.  Houllier as a person made a lot of mistakes and pissed a lot people off, and his health meant shifting him on was an easy decision but he's the only one we've had under Lerner who tried to modernise us.  Sherwood talks a good game but when you watch the team it's pretty clear that he hasn't got a clue how to implement anything effective.

For me Moyes is the obvious 'safety first' appointment and that's exactly why he's the wrong man for the job, the whole club needs a massive kick up the arse and that's not going to happen if we keep doing what we have been.  On top of that, however often people say it's irrelevant, he's failed in his last 2 jobs which makes you worry if the Man U job was too big for him and now his heart might not be in it knowing he fucked up his chance at the big time (even if it was a poison chalice).

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« Reply #250 on: October 19, 2015, 11:23:53 PM »
Looking back, Houllier was a fucking magician compared to the three utter dopes who have followed him.

Offline CT Villan

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« Reply #251 on: October 19, 2015, 11:29:33 PM »
I know that bringing someone in with no experience of the league or situation, in said league, is just as much of a gamble as sticking it out with TS, and cheaper.
Yeah, you're right...look at that Klopp fella at Liverpool - huge risk...and Ancelotti, Pellegrini, Mourinho, Benitez, Pochettino...those foreign types with no PL experience (once upon a time)...and that Ferguson guy from Aberdeen, the one with the red nose, came to Utd with no PL experience either. Yes Scotland isn't strictly abroad, but you get the point. Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

Offline Chris Smith

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #252 on: October 19, 2015, 11:45:35 PM »
I know that bringing someone in with no experience of the league or situation, in said league, is just as much of a gamble as sticking it out with TS, and cheaper.
Yeah, you're right...look at that Klopp fella at Liverpool - huge risk...and Ancelotti, Pellegrini, Mourinho, Benitez, Pochettino...those foreign types with no PL experience (once upon a time)...and that Ferguson guy from Aberdeen, the one with the red nose, came to Utd with no PL experience either. Yes Scotland isn't strictly abroad, but you get the point. Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

It's a question of timing and suitability for the job at hand. Joining a stable setup is a very different job from joining a club that has spent the last few seasons lurching about like a drunk at closing time and is already looking set for another relegation battle. Anyone coming into our current situation has very little room for error. Not knowing the players is a given, not knowing the league is not.

Offline Monty

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #253 on: October 19, 2015, 11:51:49 PM »
They know the league. It's not the 70s, where there isn't much footage and everything's a big mystery. The PL is the most televised and most broadcasted league in the world - speaking the language might be an issue, but knowing the league really really isn't.

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #254 on: October 19, 2015, 11:56:50 PM »
I would take a half fit Houllier in a heart beat, he was the one that could have set us up if circumstances had been different.

 


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