Moyes?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

2015/2016

Sherwood: 1 win in 9 league games.

Moyes: 1 win in 8 league games.

[passitsideways]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

Except one has an extended, and fairly recent history in English football of achieving exactly the sort of half-decent results we need; while the other one has so far only proven that he works as a short-term shot in the arm.

EDIT: As for saying "it's the present we live in", well, Mourinho's gotten off to an incredibly shitty start as well; does that mean he's now a crap manager as well as being a general tosser?

[john e]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

Except one has an extended, and fairly recent history in English football of achieving exactly the sort of half-decent results we need; while the other one has so far only proven that he works as a short-term shot in the arm.

EDIT: As for saying "it's the present we live in", well, Mourinho's gotten off to an incredibly shitty start as well; does that mean he's now a crap manager as well as being a general tosser?

sort of makes it a bit worse saying that
he's making a bigger hash of it than Sherwood with all that experience, at least Sherwood's a rookie maybe he will learn maybe he wont, but Moyes is failing and he's the finished article guaranteed to dig us out of the pit, 
when in reality he's currently performing worse than the one we got

[passitsideways]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

Except one has an extended, and fairly recent history in English football of achieving exactly the sort of half-decent results we need; while the other one has so far only proven that he works as a short-term shot in the arm.

EDIT: As for saying "it's the present we live in", well, Mourinho's gotten off to an incredibly shitty start as well; does that mean he's now a crap manager as well as being a general tosser?

sort of makes it a bit worse saying that
he's making a bigger hash of it than Sherwood with all that experience, at least Sherwood's a rookie maybe he will learn maybe he wont, but Moyes is failing and he's the finished article guaranteed to dig us out of the pit, 
when in reality he's currently performing worse than the one we got

Or, the alternative (and I would submit is the far more convincing) inference is that he's having a short-term hiccup, and we should give more weight to his larger body of work. Even just last season he managed 37 points in 27 games, managing for the first time in a different country - why the fuck should we throw that out the window completely in favour of nine games to start this season?

[Monty]

Moyes just has the stank of despair and failure on him at the moment. Maybe coming to Villa would perk him up, or maybe he'd continue to depress the players. He does look quite sad though.

[john e]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

Except one has an extended, and fairly recent history in English football of achieving exactly the sort of half-decent results we need; while the other one has so far only proven that he works as a short-term shot in the arm.

EDIT: As for saying "it's the present we live in", well, Mourinho's gotten off to an incredibly shitty start as well; does that mean he's now a crap manager as well as being a general tosser?

sort of makes it a bit worse saying that
he's making a bigger hash of it than Sherwood with all that experience, at least Sherwood's a rookie maybe he will learn maybe he wont, but Moyes is failing and he's the finished article guaranteed to dig us out of the pit, 
when in reality he's currently performing worse than the one we got

Or, the alternative (and I would submit is the far more convincing) inference is that he's having a short-term hiccup, and we should give more weight to his larger body of work. Even just last season he managed 37 points in 27 games, managing for the first time in a different country - why the fuck should we throw that out the window completely in favour of nine games to start this season?

because you can make a case for any manager you want, Lambert, Houllier, Sherwood

but we moan about the board making stupid decisions one after another,
 when the favourite next manager of many on this site is a man currently doing even worse than the manager we have already have,
you couldnt make this stuff up

[passitsideways]

I suspect that having to live anywhere else after having spent a year in San Sebastian would be a pretty big come-down.

[passitsideways]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

Except one has an extended, and fairly recent history in English football of achieving exactly the sort of half-decent results we need; while the other one has so far only proven that he works as a short-term shot in the arm.

EDIT: As for saying "it's the present we live in", well, Mourinho's gotten off to an incredibly shitty start as well; does that mean he's now a crap manager as well as being a general tosser?

sort of makes it a bit worse saying that
he's making a bigger hash of it than Sherwood with all that experience, at least Sherwood's a rookie maybe he will learn maybe he wont, but Moyes is failing and he's the finished article guaranteed to dig us out of the pit, 
when in reality he's currently performing worse than the one we got

Or, the alternative (and I would submit is the far more convincing) inference is that he's having a short-term hiccup, and we should give more weight to his larger body of work. Even just last season he managed 37 points in 27 games, managing for the first time in a different country - why the fuck should we throw that out the window completely in favour of nine games to start this season?

because you can make a case for any manager you want, Lambert, Houllier, Sherwood

but we moan about the board making stupid decisions one after another,
 when the favourite next manager of many on this site is a man currently doing even worse than the manager we have already have,
you couldnt make this stuff up

He's the favourite in the sense that he's the best and most realistic option working off the assumption that our board isn't progressive enough to extend beyond obvious candidates; not because people are genuinely enthusiastic about what he would bring. But it's completely ridiculous to use his record so far this season as anything more than one of many different factors to be considered in deciding whether we should get him or not.

[silhillvilla]

I suspect that having to live anywhere else after having spent a year in San Sebastian would be a pretty big come-down.

Moyes won't be suited to the Spanish weather . He will be more at home back in wet Wilmslow or similar football village

[peter w]

I think Moyes just needed a job, any job, after man U. Anything would have appeared to have been accepting the next job is because you're a failure so it meant sense to go overseas. Didn't do okay there last season? That it's not working this season could be for a number of reasons and how many times do we see overseas managers here given the bullet only to return to 'their' football and continue to build on their previous implacable reputation.

I think Moyes would be fine. He'd be re-energised and ready for English football. he'd have a couple of months to get us into some sort of shape and I expect him to go out and get exactly what he needs in January.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I suspect that having to live anywhere else after having spent a year in San Sebastian would be a pretty big come-down.

Moyes strikes me as the type of person that's spent a year in the food capital of the world and lived on steak and oven chips with suitcase full of HP sauce.

[Dr Butler]

I suspect that having to live anywhere else after having spent a year in San Sebastian would be a pretty big come-down.

Moyes strikes me as the type of person that's spent a year in the food capital of the world and lived on steak and oven chips with suitcase full of HP sauce.

Well put Rudy

Mmmm steak and chips...HP sauce....

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The Doc

[achilles]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

Except one has an extended, and fairly recent history in English football of achieving exactly the sort of half-decent results we need; while the other one has so far only proven that he works as a short-term shot in the arm.

EDIT: As for saying "it's the present we live in", well, Mourinho's gotten off to an incredibly shitty start as well; does that mean he's now a crap manager as well as being a general tosser?

sort of makes it a bit worse saying that
he's making a bigger hash of it than Sherwood with all that experience, at least Sherwood's a rookie maybe he will learn maybe he wont, but Moyes is failing and he's the finished article guaranteed to dig us out of the pit, 
when in reality he's currently performing worse than the one we got

Or, the alternative (and I would submit is the far more convincing) inference is that he's having a short-term hiccup, and we should give more weight to his larger body of work. Even just last season he managed 37 points in 27 games, managing for the first time in a different country - why the fuck should we throw that out the window completely in favour of nine games to start this season?

because you can make a case for any manager you want, Lambert, Houllier, Sherwood

but we moan about the board making stupid decisions one after another,
 when the favourite next manager of many on this site is a man currently doing even worse than the manager we have already have,
you couldnt make this stuff up

As has been pointed out already this is actually not true, as Moyes has played just 8 games, obviously you can make this stuff up!

[tomd2103]

The potential problem with a manager like Moyes is whether he would be able to fully utilise the attacking players like Grealsih, Gil, Ayew, Traore etc.  It is plain to see that Sherwood doesn't really know how to do it and I'm not sure someone like Moyes would either.  I don't know if anyone has mentioned him on here, but the one who really interests me is Karanka at Middlesborough.  He's done a very good job turning them around and they are doing well again this season which suggests he isn't some kind of one season wonder.  He played and coached at Real Madrid, so knows about big clubs and should the worst come to the worst, he has a good track record in the Championship.     

[bob]

I count fourteen on my right arm, better make sure I use a high factor sun cream.