Moyes?

[Risso]

As much as I despise him, O'Neill walking out is beginning to look like a visionary move.

A lot on here refuse to admit it but we've been utter shite ever since he left. Three top six finishes in a row - hard to imagine now, isn't it?

That really isn't the point though, the way he achieved those finishes is what has scuppered us. The money he blew was horrendous, and while the buck ultimately stops with Lerner, O'Neill played his part by wasting vast sums on players who didn't warrant it. £65k a week on Emile Heskey being a prime example.

[David_Nab]

As much as I despise him, O'Neill walking out is beginning to look like a visionary move.

Bottom 2 in league both managed by MON , both let him spend millions ....coincidence ..I think not

As for Moyes

Questions - Would you want Moyes as villa Manager
Answer - Well his time was good at Everton but I am concerned about his time at United and this season in Spain

Question - Would you want want Moyes as Villa Manager to replace Sherwood
Answer - Yes please god yes make it happen ASAP

[lordmcgrath5]

As much as I despise him, O'Neill walking out is beginning to look like a visionary move.

A lot on here refuse to admit it but we've been utter shite ever since he left. Three top six finishes in a row - hard to imagine now, isn't it?

That really isn't the point though, the way he achieved those finishes is what has scuppered us. The money he blew was horrendous, and while the buck ultimately stops with Lerner, O'Neill played his part by wasting vast sums on players who didn't warrant it. £65k a week on Emile Heskey being a prime example.

MON made a mixture of very good (Ashley Young, Petrov, Milner) and very bad (Heskey, Curtis Davies, Habib Beye, plenty of others I'll grant you that) signings. I agree he chucked money around, wasted plenty and undid most of the goodwill he may or may not (depending on your point of view) have established when he walked out in the way he did. But I think it's ludicrous to suggest that the money he spent has caused our subsequent problems. In my view, Lerner turned off the money taps when he saw the Arab money arrive at Man City who - let's not forget - used to finish below us when we had MON. He realised there was no way we were going to make the Champions League and decided mid-table/staying up would do. So we've had the calibre of management to suit said targets ever since. That's really not MON's fault, whatever you think of him.

[Chris Jameson]

Questions - Would you want Moyes as villa Manager
Answer - Well his time was good at Everton but I am concerned about his time at United and this season in Spain

Whoever took that job after Ferguson was on to a loser, I think it would be unfair to judge him on less than a season at a club that required a massive rebuilding job despite being champions, better to judge him on the job he did at Everton.

[saunders_heroes]

As much as I despise him, O'Neill walking out is beginning to look like a visionary move.

A lot on here refuse to admit it but we've been utter shite ever since he left. Three top six finishes in a row - hard to imagine now, isn't it?

That really isn't the point though, the way he achieved those finishes is what has scuppered us. The money he blew was horrendous, and while the buck ultimately stops with Lerner, O'Neill played his part by wasting vast sums on players who didn't warrant it. £65k a week on Emile Heskey being a prime example.

MON made a mixture of very good (Ashley Young, Petrov, Milner) and very bad (Heskey, Curtis Davies, Habib Beye, plenty of others I'll grant you that) signings. I agree he chucked money around, wasted plenty and undid most of the goodwill he may or may not (depending on your point of view) have established when he walked out in the way he did. But I think it's ludicrous to suggest that the money he spent has caused our subsequent problems. In my view, Lerner turned off the money taps when he saw the Arab money arrive at Man City who - let's not forget - used to finish below us when we had MON. He realised there was no way we were going to make the Champions League and decided mid-table/staying up would do. So we've had the calibre of management to suit said targets ever since. That's really not MON's fault, whatever you think of him.

Agreed. Lerner gave up and O'Neill walked.

[Malandro]

Just guess work but I think Moyes is looking for a decent offer, he knew his time in Spain would likely be short.
His hinted that he listened to clubs over the summer.

I think he'd be nuts to come here but I really hope he does.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Guess the manager..

Manager X set his team up to do the same as usual: sit back, try and frustrate the opposition and then play wide and try to cross, again and again, as a method of attack.

MON?
McLeish?
Lambert?
Sherwood?
Moyes?

[Villa in Denmark]

Guess the manager..

Manager X set his team up to do the same as usual: sit back, try and frustrate the opposition and then play wide and try to cross, again and again, as a method of attack.

MON?
McLeish?
Lambert?
Sherwood?
Moyes?

All of the above , several times over the last 10 years.

The only difference being that Moyes and MON used to be good at it.

[paul_e]

Guess the manager..

Manager X set his team up to do the same as usual: sit back, try and frustrate the opposition and then play wide and try to cross, again and again, as a method of attack.

MON?
McLeish?
Lambert?
Sherwood?
Moyes?

Could be any of them except Sherwood really.  Could also be a hell of a lot of others as well.  It wouldn't surprise me if that was a quote from the press in Italy or Spain about Mourinho though.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Guess the manager..

Manager X set his team up to do the same as usual: sit back, try and frustrate the opposition and then play wide and try to cross, again and again, as a method of attack.

MON?
McLeish?
Lambert?
Sherwood?
Moyes?

Could be any of them except Sherwood really.  Could also be a hell of a lot of others as well.  It wouldn't surprise me if that was a quote from the press in Italy or Spain about Mourinho though.

Ha! You wish. It was in a report today on Moyes' team yesterday against Atletico Madrid.

As many have said, Moyes would be a perfect match at the Villa. Sadly for all the wrong reasons. As you posted earlier, we've had 9 years of this shit. Maybe it's 'The Aston Villa Way'. I bloody hope not and I think we're long overdue a change.

[paul_e]

Guess the manager..

Manager X set his team up to do the same as usual: sit back, try and frustrate the opposition and then play wide and try to cross, again and again, as a method of attack.

MON?
McLeish?
Lambert?
Sherwood?
Moyes?

Could be any of them except Sherwood really.  Could also be a hell of a lot of others as well.  It wouldn't surprise me if that was a quote from the press in Italy or Spain about Mourinho though.

Ha! You wish. It was in a report today on Moyes' team yesterday against Atletico Madrid.

As many have said, Moyes would be a perfect match at the Villa. Sadly for all the wrong reasons. As you posted earlier, we've had 9 years of this shit. Maybe it's 'The Aston Villa Way'. I bloody hope not and I think we're long overdue a change.

It was a gamble that you'd gone for a quote about someone we wouldn't expect and Jose's style didn't go down all that well in either country so...

[pauliewalnuts]

As much as I despise him, O'Neill walking out is beginning to look like a visionary move.

A lot on here refuse to admit it but we've been utter shite ever since he left. Three top six finishes in a row - hard to imagine now, isn't it?

That really isn't the point though, the way he achieved those finishes is what has scuppered us. The money he blew was horrendous, and while the buck ultimately stops with Lerner, O'Neill played his part by wasting vast sums on players who didn't warrant it. £65k a week on Emile Heskey being a prime example.

MON made a mixture of very good (Ashley Young, Petrov, Milner) and very bad (Heskey, Curtis Davies, Habib Beye, plenty of others I'll grant you that) signings. I agree he chucked money around, wasted plenty and undid most of the goodwill he may or may not (depending on your point of view) have established when he walked out in the way he did. But I think it's ludicrous to suggest that the money he spent has caused our subsequent problems. In my view, Lerner turned off the money taps when he saw the Arab money arrive at Man City who - let's not forget - used to finish below us when we had MON. He realised there was no way we were going to make the Champions League and decided mid-table/staying up would do. So we've had the calibre of management to suit said targets ever since. That's really not MON's fault, whatever you think of him.

Of course it has caused us subsequent problems.

Are you aware of just how much money we spent and the impact on our finances? Why do you think we went from £10m 60k a week players to £1m 10k a week ones?

The reason we had three sixth place finishes under MON (although, to be honest, some make that sound like the new winning the league) is primarily because we spent a huge amount of money, and enough of it bought good enough players to get us to sixth.

It wasn't some sort of amazing management from MON to get those players in, it was him throwing sufficient amounts of cash at it to make it work.

The problem was that those players who didnt work out for us still had to be paid, for several years.

Heskey signing a 60k a week deal aged 31 and a bit, for example. You list that as an example of very badly spent money yourself.

How did that disappear as a problem when MON went? It didn't, because we had to keep paying him that money to contribute fuck all until the end date of his contract.

[David_Nab]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10035025/david-moyes-should-not-be-sacked-and-barcelona-still-have-worries-says-guillem-balague

Seems to think Board are behind Moyes so won't be sacked soon

[john e]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

[Clark W Griswold]

Moyes is doing exactly the same job in Spain that Sherwood is doing at Villa, ie failing miserably

they cant win a match, down the bottom of the league, his overall win % rate is actually worse than Sherwoods, which takes some believing

and he's the one who's going to turn it all round for us ?

then we have a go at the board for making bad choices when our favourite is an equivalent loser,
yes he's done ok in the past but its the present we live in

True, but a lot of managers have their ups and downs and at least he's got plenty of experience. I don't think Big Ron had quite lived up to it at Man Utd but had a good 3 years with us.