Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[ozzjim]

Agreed. If he hands Sherwood his p45 next week i think we can be safe in the knowledge that he isn't going to let his ego get in the way. Fingers crossed.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Any manager with half a brain would have serious doubts about joining us having read this.

Neville and Carragher

It's all so depressing but I guess it's how others see us.

[tomd2103]

'Moving the deckchairs on the Titanic' is the expression that springs to mind.

Yep, just goes to show the problems at the club run much deeper than who is sat in the manager's dugout.  I went to watch the film "I Believe in Miracles" the other night in which Martin O'Neill features.  I left the cinema thinking of the optimism felt at the time he joined the club and wondering how it could have gone so badly wrong.   

[German James]

Any manager with half a brain would have serious doubts about joining us...

This is my fear.

[Rudy65]

Really? Interesting if true

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snmi6a

makes me p1ss my self laughing at how arrogant Collymore is.

Why would Fox want to take any help from Collymore?

This is the player who rarely did anything for us, and left on a free after we paid £7m plus. I know he had his off the field problems when he was here, but sometimes you just need to shut it.

[Rudy65]

The Torygraph's Matt Law is in overdrive mode.

Aston Villa may turn to Swansea manager Garry Monk if Tim Sherwood fails to turn around their season

No thanks

[Rudy65]

Just watched swansea get done by stoke and both teams were terrible which indicates how crap we are. Another young manager relatively inexperienced no thanks.

So you're judging Garry Monk on one game and not his entire body of work?

The point was made earlier that Gary Monk has done well at Swansea because he knows the way the football club works, he's knows the players, he knows the system, he knows where he fits in and what the parameters are.  Coming to Villa, with all the issues that are here, would be a totally different test. The appointment would be as risky as Sherwood's was.

agreed

[Toronto Villa]

Regarding Collymore's comments they can't all be dismissed because much of it reflects what has been said on here about the club. What's ludicrous is after he met with Fox he was glowing in his praise about what he was told and how we had exciting times ahead. That story has now changed. Also where he's going to get very little support is his now staunch defence of Sherwood. He's not entirely wrong, but if he's been paying attention to our play, and as importantly some of the nonsense being spouted by the manager he'd know that Sherwood isn't up to it. That the players are completely lost and the manager has no idea how to fix it. Instead it's easier to smash the board and not the manager.

What Stan might be surprised to hear is that if Fox does his job, he'll fire Sherwood in the next few days and it will be almost universally appreciated by the very fans he is appealing to. I don't have a clue of the next bloke will be much better but in all likelihood he won't be worse.

[DeeBoy1]

Any manager with half a brain would have serious doubts about joining us having read this.

Neville and Carragher

It's all so depressing but I guess it's how others see us.

Watched this on Monday Night Football last night and I have to say I was impressed with Neville and Carragher's views. If the media start focusing on Lerner and Fox and what is going on behind the scenes then it can be no bad thing. Let's not forget that it was only once the media started to realise and report the extent of Lambert's shitness last year that the ball started rolling on getting rid.

It may be hard hearing it from 'non-villains' but it's the same truths that we talk about here day in day out.

[Tony Erdington]

Getting fuckin suicidal now,

so reading my fellow villans thoughts on all this shit.

Nobody in there right mind is going to come to VP, WHILST WEVE GOT Charlie Manson and Norman Bates holding the keys.

I think the jobs right for Barry Fry

were going down boys and in which case were going down,

so what will Charlie and Norman do then, build a new Bates motel in the desert that will be VP

[mr underhill]

Tony I love your posts but you can't get suicidal over it. If this is our year so be it ; we have played fast and loose with relegation for years and we probably now deserve to go. At least we know we can beat Championship opposition, even with Tim at the helm

[Billy Walker]

Tony I love your posts but you can't get suicidal over it. If this is our year so be it ; we have played fast and loose with relegation for years and we probably now deserve to go. At least we know we can beat Championship opposition, even with Tim at the helm

The club and supporters don't deserve to go, it's the Chairman who deserves to go.  We're all paying the price for his cack-handed stupidity.

[SamTheMouse]

The whole management structure at the club seems to be a bit of a mess, and not everybody is pulling in the same direction. In the last few seasons, we've had great opportunities to try and do something about that and build a proper structure with a clear vision.

Sadly, with Lerner losing interest and the team being in a firefight to stay up every year, everything has been a bit knee-jerk.

We could be fucked this season, but if Randy isn't able to find a buyer for us, it's going to happen sooner or later. You can't just bumble along in the Premier League with a short-term approach. You have to aim high just to stand still in this league.

So I don't think it matters all that much who the manager is.

[PaulWinch again]

They're right that the problems run deep at Villa, that's obvious, BUT that does not mean Sherwood isn't doing a terrible job. This is the problem that football pundits seem to have, they can't or won't identify that it's two seperate issues. Sherwood can't organise a team and can't settle on how he wants his team to play and I really don't see how anyone can launch a defence of him on that front. If you couple that with the statements he's been making to the media he really does not deserve anymore time.

[ChicagoLion]

if he has not fired him now then do not hold your breath that it is happening any time soon.