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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2100 on: October 12, 2015, 09:09:00 PM »
Do most believe it's a fait acompli?  I keep checking if I missed an announcement that he has gone.
Talk of who to be next manager a tad premature I think. We hardly have a track record of no nonsense in managing managers. I thought we opted for head in the sand approach

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2101 on: October 12, 2015, 09:24:36 PM »
Do most believe it's a fait acompli?  I keep checking if I missed an announcement that he has gone.
Talk of who to be next manager a tad premature I think. We hardly have a track record of no nonsense in managing managers. I thought we opted for head in the sand approach

It isn't a done deal. But if after what we are seen recently does anyone really expect him to suddenly pull a rabbit out of his arse and avoid a defeat at Chelsea?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2102 on: October 12, 2015, 09:31:44 PM »
I reckon there is a clause 10 games in about the bottom 3 that would let him go early.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2103 on: October 12, 2015, 09:34:55 PM »
I reckon there is a clause 10 games in about the bottom 3 that would let him go early.

Certainly something like that seems very plausible.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2104 on: October 12, 2015, 09:43:05 PM »
...does anyone really expect him to suddenly pull a rabbit out of his arse..

That would get him sacked, I reckon.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2105 on: October 12, 2015, 09:46:11 PM »
I reckon there is a clause 10 games in about the bottom 3 that would let him go early.

Certainly something like that seems very plausible.

I bloody hope not.  8 more games of this and we can start planning for the championship before the Christmas lights go up.  If there's a clause like that it must be X no of games without a win after dropping into the bottom 3.  That would make 3 games and out after losing to Liverpool not too outlandish.  Anyway all guesswork.

Either find a way to get results or piss off.  I'd prefer the 1st as it would make everything so much easier, but zero confidence in him to do anything sustainable now.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2106 on: October 12, 2015, 09:50:41 PM »
When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

I agree with TV re the pointing of fingers at other people usually means the end.

Two things puzzle me about the player recruitment. No, actually, three things.

1. I've been impressed by the signings. The signings are not the problem. For me, it is the manager who doesn't look up to it, not the signings.

2. In the summer he said he had had the final word. This week he has said completely the opposite.

3. If the players he said he wanted to sign - Adebayor, Townsend etc - really were the names he wanted then, frankly, I am just glad it wasn't him choosing the players.

All of the Above.

Time for him to be moved on.

Do you think the absence of Ayew, after his performance v Birmingham City, can be explained by Sherwood being reluctant to play him?  If he is having a battle for power then the signings coming in and improving the team does not exactly support his argument.  Biting your nose to spite your face comes to mind...  He wouldn't be that stupid/stubborn would he?

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villas-jordan-ayew-desperately-10241699

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Sherwood personally pushed for the 24-year-old and fellow forward Rudy Gestede.

Some of Villa’s other foreign arrivals were recommendations from the recruitment team but the boss was keen on Ayew himself after discussing his qualities with talent spotter Paddy Riley.

Ayew is one of his choices ...

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2107 on: October 12, 2015, 10:04:27 PM »
Say we lose on Saturday (hard to imagine I know) and Albion/Bournemouth win to go 7 points ahead of us. Surely then it's time to pull the plug. That said, no manager worth his salt is going to come here if he needs to win 3 games just to get out of the drop zone.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2108 on: October 12, 2015, 10:06:14 PM »
Say we lose on Saturday (hard to imagine I know) and Albion/Bournemouth win to go 7 points ahead of us. Surely then it's time to pull the plug. That said, no manager worth his salt is going to come here if he needs to win 3 games just to get out of the drop zone.

Why not? It's October, not March.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2109 on: October 12, 2015, 10:06:19 PM »
On the topic of play acquisition it doesn't matter who recommended who. He is part of the club and once the club agrees to buy a player irrespective of how that decision was arrived at, publicly the only thing we should know is that it was arrived at collectively. Whether that player works out or not, take ownership. Sherwood is the face of that decision. He'd be taking the credit for a decision going well, and he needs to own it when a decision isn't going as well as was hoped. The very last thing anyone needs to see or hear in difficult times is a split amongst the ranks. He needs to shut the fuck up and get on with his job with the resources at his disposal.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2110 on: October 12, 2015, 10:13:30 PM »
...does anyone really expect him to suddenly pull a rabbit out of his arse..

That would get him sacked, I reckon.

Possibly not but shoving it up there in the first place would!

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2111 on: October 12, 2015, 10:23:41 PM »
...does anyone really expect him to suddenly pull a rabbit out of his arse..

That would get him sacked, I reckon.

Possibly not but shoving it up there in the first place would!
He'd probably move it into midfield after taking off Gana!

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2112 on: October 12, 2015, 10:28:38 PM »
...does anyone really expect him to suddenly pull a rabbit out of his arse..

That would get him sacked, I reckon.

Possibly not but shoving it up there in the first place would!
He'd probably move it into midfield after taking off Gana!

Very good FMWMU. Personally I'd be hoping mad if he did that.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2113 on: October 12, 2015, 10:29:08 PM »
Say we lose on Saturday (hard to imagine I know) and Albion/Bournemouth win to go 7 points ahead of us. Surely then it's time to pull the plug. That said, no manager worth his salt is going to come here if he needs to win 3 games just to get out of the drop zone.

Why not? It's October, not March.

Exactly. Any manager worth his salt WOULD come in October, even 10 points adrift, which we could be by the time we have lost to Swansea.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2114 on: October 12, 2015, 10:34:42 PM »
With a reborn Sunderland playing WBA this weekend and Newcastle home to Norwich there's a very real chance we will be bottom by 6pm Sunday night.

 


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