Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[rob_bridge]

When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

I agree with TV re the pointing of fingers at other people usually means the end.

Two things puzzle me about the player recruitment. No, actually, three things.

1. I've been impressed by the signings. The signings are not the problem. For me, it is the manager who doesn't look up to it, not the signings.

2. In the summer he said he had had the final word. This week he has said completely the opposite.

3. If the players he said he wanted to sign - Adebayor, Townsend etc - really were the names he wanted then, frankly, I am just glad it wasn't him choosing the players.

All of the Above.

Time for him to be moved on.

[VILLA MOLE]

When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

I agree with TV re the pointing of fingers at other people usually means the end.

Two things puzzle me about the player recruitment. No, actually, three things.

1. I've been impressed by the signings. The signings are not the problem. For me, it is the manager who doesn't look up to it, not the signings.

2. In the summer he said he had had the final word. This week he has said completely the opposite.

3. If the players he said he wanted to sign - Adebayor, Townsend etc - really were the names he wanted then, frankly, I am just glad it wasn't him choosing the players.

All of the Above.

Time for him to be moved on.

Also Timmy surely your job is untenable if you dont get the final say on signings , resign sir resign

[PaulWinch again]

And I think we are 7 days away from beginning our search for a new manager.

I agree, I think we could see him gone by Saturday evening, it's definitely, in my opinion, a matter of when not if, even an unlikely victory over Chelsea would only be delaying things for a few weeks.

That's why if all of this is true it's pointless waiting one or two games. If the board has decided its had enough then there's no point in wasting any more time going further down a failed path.

[OCD]

Fear not, as soon as the new manager sorts out the team and gets them playing Sherwood will be shouting from the roof tops about how he signed all those players. Taking the credit for Harry Kane despite him being out on loan for almost all the time Sherwood was at Spurs tells you all you need to know about his ego.

there will be a story how the Chairman wanted to sell Benteke and Tim managed to err stop oh wait no he didnt oh well never mind   

Sherwood's already passed comment by saying that he would never have allowed the clause had he been at the club. Very easy to say. We all thought Benteke was gone after that first season. Who's to say we would have kept him for a further couple of years if we had refused the clause.

[ChicagoLion]

Rodgers had a fair amount of stick on here during his time at Liverpool and now he's out of work, it seems he's a decent manager. I don't get it.

You could call it revisionist desperation, or desperate revisionism maybe. Whatever, the fact is we're in the shit and the fear we all share is that our situation could be a lot worse quite soon, so it's understandable.

I don't think Rodgers is anything special but Im sure he's bettter than what we have at the moment, so I'd take him. However I'm not so sure he'd join us - at least not for a while. I can well imagine he's monitoring the Chelsea situation and if that doesn't improve soon, hoping they'll give Jose the push. If that happened then Rodgers would certainly consider he'd be in with a good chance of taking over there, given the fact that he worked there previously and also because there aren't that many obvious and unemployed managers of the calibre Chelsea would want.

Rodgers fails at Liverpool so gets the Chelsea Job, brilliant, you cant make this stuff up.

[Des Little]

I think his results record here is his letter of resignation.  It's bloody awful when you see it in print.

[OCD]

Rodgers had a fair amount of stick on here during his time at Liverpool and now he's out of work, it seems he's a decent manager. I don't get it.

You could call it revisionist desperation, or desperate revisionism maybe. Whatever, the fact is we're in the shit and the fear we all share is that our situation could be a lot worse quite soon, so it's understandable.

I don't think Rodgers is anything special but Im sure he's bettter than what we have at the moment, so I'd take him. However I'm not so sure he'd join us - at least not for a while. I can well imagine he's monitoring the Chelsea situation and if that doesn't improve soon, hoping they'll give Jose the push. If that happened then Rodgers would certainly consider he'd be in with a good chance of taking over there, given the fact that he worked there previously and also because there aren't that many obvious and unemployed managers of the calibre Chelsea would want.

You really think Chelsea would restrict themselves to only considering managers out of work?

[brontebilly]

If the 'two game' scenario is true, the sacking is inevitable. Even if he wins one of the games he'll be gone if he gets a bad result later.

Just do it now and get on with the football.

Sorry state of affairs.

yep, its the board turning the screw on Sherwood after the leaks re him abdicating responsibility for the summer signings. Another one his ego landed him in big time

He wont ever manage in the top division again, wasnt his fault he was hired in the first place but something distinctly wrong with him coining it in when we eventually put his reign out of its misery

[footyskillz]

Sherwood v mourinho then Sherwood v monk. Both astute managers and despite recent poor form both teams considered too good. Lets just hope more for villa sake than Sherwood there's 4points in there somehow!

[exigo]

When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

I agree with TV re the pointing of fingers at other people usually means the end.

Two things puzzle me about the player recruitment. No, actually, three things.

1. I've been impressed by the signings. The signings are not the problem. For me, it is the manager who doesn't look up to it, not the signings.

2. In the summer he said he had had the final word. This week he has said completely the opposite.

3. If the players he said he wanted to sign - Adebayor, Townsend etc - really were the names he wanted then, frankly, I am just glad it wasn't him choosing the players.

All of the Above.

Time for him to be moved on.

Also, just about every signing in the summer was quoted as saying, on the official site, "I sat down with the manager, and he really sold me his vision for the club". So coming out in public and saying he didn't want them is hardly going to help dressing room morale.

[john e]

I'm a bit lost with this story

Has he actually come out and said he didn't want them, I find that hard to believe if he has

[Ian.]

I'm a bit lost with this story

Has he actually come out and said he didn't want them, I find that hard to believe if he has

I have read this in a few articles from links from this site, but there has not been any actual quotes from who said what. I reckon something has been leaked to the press from within.
Knowing Sherwood and his big mouth I wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

[Villa in Denmark]

I'm a bit lost with this story

Has he actually come out and said he didn't want them, I find that hard to believe if he has

Well if he hasn't, there's an awful lot of journalists making that claim on his behalf.

Given that this must have put him in a(n even more) sticky situation with the club, you'd have thought he'd have let it be known, either directly or otherwise, that he hadn't made any comments of that nature.  Unless of course there's a journalist with a recording of a conversation on his phone somewhere?

[Dante Lavelli]

When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

I agree with TV re the pointing of fingers at other people usually means the end.

Two things puzzle me about the player recruitment. No, actually, three things.

1. I've been impressed by the signings. The signings are not the problem. For me, it is the manager who doesn't look up to it, not the signings.

2. In the summer he said he had had the final word. This week he has said completely the opposite.

3. If the players he said he wanted to sign - Adebayor, Townsend etc - really were the names he wanted then, frankly, I am just glad it wasn't him choosing the players.

All of the Above.

Time for him to be moved on.

Do you think the absence of Ayew, after his performance v Birmingham City, can be explained by Sherwood being reluctant to play him?  If he is having a battle for power then the signings coming in and improving the team does not exactly support his argument.  Biting your nose to spite your face comes to mind...  He wouldn't be that stupid/stubborn would he?

[ciggiesnbeer]

When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

They would have every right but has he actually said any of the things reported?

Admittedly I have not been following closely but from what I saw it was not in quotes nor attributed to him just a "it is believed" kind of thing. Did I miss something?