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Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2070 on: October 12, 2015, 11:20:03 AM »
The thing that got me about the Stoke match was the selection looked like giving up before the start. If you want to be solid there are better ways to approach it than the way he did. We looked lifeless both on and off the pitch.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2071 on: October 12, 2015, 11:39:39 AM »
The thing that got me about the Stoke match was the selection looked like giving up before the start. If you want to be solid there are better ways to approach it than the way he did. We looked lifeless both on and off the pitch.

I agree with this , but whats worse its seems like he actually believed his masterplan of playing tight in the first half and attacking in the 2nd half that saw of the Blose was actually a viable tactic

On talk of players seeing as the most experienced player brought in was his option Lescott and he has been woeful then it seems a good thing we didn't let him dictate.Also we let MON have free reign on transfers and he lumbered us with domestic brought highly paid players with little to no sell on value it's not a surprise that we have moved away from this model.


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2072 on: October 12, 2015, 12:12:42 PM »
If the 'two game' scenario is true, the sacking is inevitable. Even if he wins one of the games he'll be gone if he gets a bad result later.

Just do it now and get on with the football.

Sorry state of affairs.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2073 on: October 12, 2015, 12:23:09 PM »
I hear what you say Kuwait and as always place great value on your views. To me what does not add up is the precipitous lapse by Sherwood into what on the surface of it is a media blunder.  Blunders abound in his approach to football but he has played the media to his own advantage with flawless expertise and has his feet on the well trodden and proven path to a football fortune used by the likes of Redknapp.  Get the right side of the media and your failures will be forgotten.  Create celebrity status for yourself and you will be judged by show business standards, not sporting ones.

At this point in the season to declare that none of the mess is his fault, to me looks completely premeditated.  It might be to protect what MON called "his brand" but  I suspect that it is more specific than that. We shall see. Sooner rather than later I hope.
Nail on the head, Brian. I dont have inside knowledge of the workings of the football press but these stories do not generally appear out of nowhere. Football journos will have had a tip off or a leak but the fact that neither Sherwood or the club have done anything (yet) to disscredit this story lead me to believe there is grounding in it. There are no direct quotes from anyone so no breach of contracts but i would imagine that if these cards have been left on the table, TS will be feeling very hard done by. His agent will now be feeding this into the mainstream media to protect his client.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2074 on: October 12, 2015, 12:54:42 PM »
When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2075 on: October 12, 2015, 01:06:59 PM »
When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2076 on: October 12, 2015, 01:16:40 PM »
When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

I agree with TV re the pointing of fingers at other people usually means the end.

Two things puzzle me about the player recruitment. No, actually, three things.

1. I've been impressed by the signings. The signings are not the problem. For me, it is the manager who doesn't look up to it, not the signings.

2. In the summer he said he had had the final word. This week he has said completely the opposite.

3. If the players he said he wanted to sign - Adebayor, Townsend etc - really were the names he wanted then, frankly, I am just glad it wasn't him choosing the players.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2077 on: October 12, 2015, 01:26:07 PM »
When you start to throw your work associates and supervisors under the bus your time is coming to an end. By saying the signings weren't all his he's openly admitting he wasn't in agreement with the direction the club took in the summer. That he has been operating against his will. By exposing it publicly only serves to drive a further wedge between himself and the club. As he looks to future career opportunities he'd be well served in the knowledge that potential new employers may not be enamoured if their decisions get called out in public.

If I were Fox/Lerner I'd be pretty furious at his comments

I agree with TV re the pointing of fingers at other people usually means the end.

Two things puzzle me about the player recruitment. No, actually, three things.

1. I've been impressed by the signings. The signings are not the problem. For me, it is the manager who doesn't look up to it, not the signings.

2. In the summer he said he had had the final word. This week he has said completely the opposite.

3. If the players he said he wanted to sign - Adebayor, Townsend etc - really were the names he wanted then, frankly, I am just glad it wasn't him choosing the players.

The Townsend one is the key for me.  To keep it really simple:

Andros Townsend or Adama Traore and £10m?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2078 on: October 12, 2015, 01:31:27 PM »
If this is all true, then surely Sherwood would've been aware of the situation when he took the job on. If you're not up to the job, don't act all surprised and start blaming all and sundry, say so, hold your hands up, admit the fair cop, and leave it. If the job conditions changed in the interim, then either knuckle down and get on with it in a manner befitting that which got you the gig in the first place, or express your dissatisfaction and leave it. I'm starting to think we're five days away from hearing "honest bunch of lads" for the first time in a while.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2079 on: October 12, 2015, 01:34:18 PM »
At the time, I was actually impressed that Tim wasn't doing the obvious and raiding the Spurs cast off box by signing players from abroad. Thank fuck we aren't saddled with them , especially if  he's for the tin tack

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2080 on: October 12, 2015, 01:34:49 PM »
And I think we are 7 days away from beginning our search for a new manager.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2081 on: October 12, 2015, 01:36:17 PM »
Fear not, as soon as the new manager sorts out the team and gets them playing Sherwood will be shouting from the roof tops about how he signed all those players. Taking the credit for Harry Kane despite him being out on loan for almost all the time Sherwood was at Spurs tells you all you need to know about his ego.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2082 on: October 12, 2015, 01:37:51 PM »
The talk about Lennon and Townsend surely can't be true. They both play similar positions, albeit in slightly different ways. You would buy one or the other but not both.
Add in almost buying Adebayor, buying Richards (looks to be his idea) and Gestede (almost certainly his idea), then I think this issue is being exaggerated by the media. For whose gain is not clear though.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2083 on: October 12, 2015, 01:41:00 PM »
And I think we are 7 days away from beginning our search for a new manager.

I agree, I think we could see him gone by Saturday evening, it's definitely, in my opinion, a matter of when not if, even an unlikely victory over Chelsea would only be delaying things for a few weeks.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2084 on: October 12, 2015, 01:43:51 PM »
Fear not, as soon as the new manager sorts out the team and gets them playing Sherwood will be shouting from the roof tops about how he signed all those players. Taking the credit for Harry Kane despite him being out on loan for almost all the time Sherwood was at Spurs tells you all you need to know about his ego.


there will be a story how the Chairman wanted to sell Benteke and Tim managed to err stop oh wait no he didnt oh well never mind   :-\

 


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