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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2055 on: October 11, 2015, 11:00:55 PM »
Prandelli as new manager, for no other reasons than it would be different and unknown and so it would be exciting.
It couldn't be any worse?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2056 on: October 11, 2015, 11:29:52 PM »
Prandelli as new manager, for no other reasons than it would be different and unknown and so it would be exciting.
It couldn't be any worse?

Don't tempt fate.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2057 on: October 11, 2015, 11:54:02 PM »
Prandelli as new manager, for no other reasons than it would be different and unknown and so it would be exciting.
It couldn't be any worse?

Don't tempt fate.


Each time I think it can't get any worse, and there looks like hope might turn into actual stability, it gets worse.

4 points in 8 fairly run of the mill fixtures, I can't think how it could be much worse.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2058 on: October 12, 2015, 12:19:39 AM »
If we are to replace the manager, I would like to see us go for Frank de Boer.  I think we need someone from outside the current English leagues.  He may feel that he has gone as far as he can with Ajax and wants a go in the EPL.

Plus points for me are experience, understands bringing foreign players into a club (something we need to do to get value for money), part of a set up that is constantly trawling the world for new up and coming players and he has been successful , in spite of losing his best players and having to rebuild his teams.


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2059 on: October 12, 2015, 12:25:11 AM »
If we are to replace the manager, I would like to see us go for Frank de Boer.  I think we need someone from outside the current English leagues.  He may feel that he has gone as far as he can with Ajax and wants a go in the EPL.

Plus points for me are experience, understands bringing foreign players into a club (something we need to do to get value for money), part of a set up that is constantly trawling the world for new up and coming players and he has been successful , in spite of losing his best players and having to rebuild his teams.

As much as I agree, I think that is pretty unlikely given our current predicament.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2060 on: October 12, 2015, 12:26:07 AM »
I'm not sure taking another gamble is the way forward. I'd much rather play safe with a Moyes type, become established higher up the table then go for something more expansive next time. In our position with a squad finding their feet, do we really want to add another manager that needs to adapt too?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2061 on: October 12, 2015, 12:26:19 AM »
De Boer would feel like a master stroke. I don't see them going for him though and if they did, he would probably decline in the hope of a better job (i.e. someone in a decent position).

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2062 on: October 12, 2015, 12:32:36 AM »

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2063 on: October 12, 2015, 12:37:08 AM »
Asking out of ignorance rather than rhetorical challenge, but has Prandelli ever done anything as a manager?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2064 on: October 12, 2015, 12:45:54 AM »
De Boer said at the end of last season that he thought that he'd done as much as he could at Ajax (4 titles in 5 years and looking good for this years as well) and that he would be open to a new challenge in one of the top European leagues.  The obvious choices for him there would be England or Germany from a language point of view.

After Klopp got the Liverpool job he was asked if he was disappointed he hadn't been considered.  The reply was something along the lines of "not really but I couldn't see myself leaving Ajax halfway through the season."

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2065 on: October 12, 2015, 04:30:16 AM »
Asking out of ignorance rather than rhetorical challenge, but has Prandelli ever done anything as a manager?

He spent several years at Fiorentina where they were always fighting for that last CL spot, and then he took Italy to the Euro 2012 final. He's had a couple of poor years but surely football won't have passed him by in that time.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2066 on: October 12, 2015, 07:09:30 AM »
I was wondering if Sherwood is preparing the ground for a MON type exit. Perhaps the press "leaks" about him not being allowed to sign the players he wanted are part of  a threat of a claim for wrongful dismissal.  MON allegedly used similar claims to get the club to roll over and pay up (allegedly).  Suppose there is a bottom three clause in his contract, what better way to fight it than say we were only in the bottom three because I was prevented from signing Adebayor/Townsend/Lennon/Berbatov and was forced to try to win games with rubbish like Grealish/Gil/Traore/Amavi/Gana/Vertout/ Ilori and Richards?

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2067 on: October 12, 2015, 07:42:23 AM »
That just does not weigh up Brian, Fox obviously had some form of plan, which I should imagine incorporated the buy value from abroad and sell on, not do what we had been doing and get stuck with high wages for excess baggage, so I should imagine Sherwood was informed off this, what might be nearer the truth is that Tim thought no problem, I am good enough to find a system, to make these players work, if they are going to be the 7 to 10 mill price tag they are going to be good enough for me, but he has been found out as to not having the required skill set to sort players into a tactical formation that works, so it is a case of "There not my players, what do you expect", a common shout from struggling British Managers having to work in what seems to be the modern way companies want to run football teams.

As for Rodgers and Moyes I am just not sure, but who, I have not got a clue.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2068 on: October 12, 2015, 08:01:04 AM »
I hear what you say Kuwait and as always place great value on your views. To me what does not add up is the precipitous lapse by Sherwood into what on the surface of it is a media blunder.  Blunders abound in his approach to football but he has played the media to his own advantage with flawless expertise and has his feet on the well trodden and proven path to a football fortune used by the likes of Redknapp.  Get the right side of the media and your failures will be forgotten.  Create celebrity status for yourself and you will be judged by show business standards, not sporting ones.

At this point in the season to declare that none of the mess is his fault, to me looks completely premeditated.  It might be to protect what MON called "his brand" but  I suspect that it is more specific than that. We shall see. Sooner rather than later I hope.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2069 on: October 12, 2015, 10:57:27 AM »
To be honest I think he needs to go now. The Stoke game confirmed it for me, that was an absolutely terrible result. To be four points adrift of safety already given the relatively kind start we've had is woeful. It's also not like we appear to be progressing, if anything we're getting worse. There's no point in persisting with something that isn't working. Thanks Tim for saving us last year, but time's up.

 


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