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Offline walsall villain

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1995 on: October 11, 2015, 02:47:56 PM »
I think he should and will go. There will be a lot of angst for some of us whoever comes in. I don't think I've seen one name mentioned on here over the past few years that hasn't caused outrage with some of us.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1996 on: October 11, 2015, 02:48:28 PM »
If true I would get rid now, I have not seen any evidence he can turn this around.  Why wait for two more games?

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1997 on: October 11, 2015, 02:59:25 PM »
Pity we didn't employ Ronald Koemen. Not only does he appear to be the type of manager we want but more crucially he could come on to take the free kicks and bust the back of the net with his cannons! Something that Westwood is incapable of.... in any match.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1998 on: October 11, 2015, 03:06:28 PM »
There's no smoke without fire - I'm starting to think he'll get the boot.

Me too

I tend to think the press talk is true, and he will be going unless there is significant improvement, and I don't just mean a point or two in the next few matches

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1999 on: October 11, 2015, 03:09:28 PM »
For the last couple of years net spend has been less of a problem than the quality of management and coaching.

I'm not too unhappy with the business done this summer, allthough it could have been better. For a club that only narrowly escaped relegation last season and subsequently lost its two best players, I would probably have expected less risky signings (ie, unspectacular but proven PL-standard players as opposed to more adventurous signings that may or may not adapt to the league).

I think you can cast doubt with proven PL-standard players argument once you consider that QPR and Hull who did get relegated signed plenty of them. QPR signed Fer, Rio, Caulker, Sandro and Mutch; Hull signed Snodgrass (albeit he was injured), two Spurs rejects in Livermore and Dawson, and Diame.

I've been saying for a while you can prove whatever point you want by selecting players or managers that back up your point of view and ignoring the ones that don't

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2000 on: October 11, 2015, 03:18:17 PM »
Rodgers would have been my first choice back in 2012, before he got the Liverpool job and before Lambert was appointed.

No guarantee he would have taken the role back then, so possibly even less likely now.

But we need a manager who finally understands abstract concepts like possession and movement.  For all his faults, Rodgers does seem to at least have that going for him.

For the right manager, the Villa job could still be an attractive one.  All the trappings of a big club, but with minimal expectation over the short> medium term based on the ineptitude of the numpties in the hotseat since 2010.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2001 on: October 11, 2015, 03:18:50 PM »
I don't see how Sherwood can turn it around. He's surely doing all the things he feels are best, so I agree that it's best just to give him the chop now rather than hanging about for two more games. What's he going to do that could turn it around that he hasn't already. I want him to do well but 6 losses in 7 games - with no spark of anything better to come - is appalling.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2002 on: October 11, 2015, 03:21:02 PM »
There's no smoke without fire - I'm starting to think he'll get the boot.

Me too

I tend to think the press talk is true, and he will be going unless there is significant improvement, and I don't just mean a point or two in the next few matches

And me. In fact if we get another pants-down spanking at Chelsea next weekend I think he'll be given the heave-ho without waiting for the Swansea game.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2003 on: October 11, 2015, 03:38:54 PM »
There's no smoke without fire - I'm starting to think he'll get the boot.

Me too

I tend to think the press talk is true, and he will be going unless there is significant improvement, and I don't just mean a point or two in the next few matches

I think there probably is something in this but these stories, 2 more games gets us to 10 played and if it is still only 1 won and no obvious improvement then there is no hiding place.

I do though have an issue with the 'no smoke without fire line' as you only need to have a passing acquaintance with the Internet to know that the smoke to fire ratio is 10000000000:1.







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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2004 on: October 11, 2015, 03:50:14 PM »
There's no smoke without fire - I'm starting to think he'll get the boot.

Well apparently the team sheet was leaked before the blues game so maybe someone at the club is indeed careless with information.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2005 on: October 11, 2015, 03:56:32 PM »
There's no smoke without fire - I'm starting to think he'll get the boot.

Well apparently the team sheet was leaked before the blues game so maybe someone at the club is indeed careless with information.

Happens all the time. The weird bit was Blose trying to make something of it...

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2006 on: October 11, 2015, 04:32:14 PM »
There's no smoke without fire - I'm starting to think he'll get the boot.

Me too

I tend to think the press talk is true, and he will be going unless there is significant improvement, and I don't just mean a point or two in the next few matches

I think there probably is something in this but these stories, 2 more games gets us to 10 played and if it is still only 1 won and no obvious improvement then there is no hiding place.

I do though have an issue with the 'no smoke without fire line' as you only need to have a passing acquaintance with the Internet to know that the smoke to fire ratio is 10000000000:1.







I think the 'smoke' in this instance is the mainstream media 'stories'  in the Mirror and Telegraph.
I think that's what some of us are hanging our hats on.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2007 on: October 11, 2015, 05:24:44 PM »
I suspect Sherwood has been told he has two games to get us out of the relegation zone - he may have a clause too that enables us to sack him with less compensation if we are in the bottom three.

I'd be ok with Rodgers, but would really like to see Bielsa grab the club by the throat and shake us out of our nightmare.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2008 on: October 11, 2015, 05:58:51 PM »
There's no smoke without fire - I'm starting to think he'll get the boot.

Me too

I tend to think the press talk is true, and he will be going unless there is significant improvement, and I don't just mean a point or two in the next few matches

I think there probably is something in this but these stories, 2 more games gets us to 10 played and if it is still only 1 won and no obvious improvement then there is no hiding place.

I do though have an issue with the 'no smoke without fire line' as you only need to have a passing acquaintance with the Internet to know that the smoke to fire ratio is 10000000000:1.

And in the majority of accidents it's the smoke rather than the flames that's the killer.

Once this kind of thing starts being reported, whether there's a grain or truth in or not, it quickly takes on a life of it's own as the media sharks circle, sniffing blood.

As an aside, I'm not a fan of this "x games to save his job." Either you trust him to sort it out or you don't.

Rodgers got the boot after a draw away to Everton, which on the face of it isn't actually a bad result. However the performance was abject, with their only real chance being the goal - a free header inside the 6 yard box from a corner as a result of the sort of marking we used to specialise in.

I could just about cope with him staying after Swansea, even if he's only collected 1 point, as long as there were signs of improving performance.

I have no expectations though as I have no confidence in him.

Offline levico

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2009 on: October 11, 2015, 06:23:25 PM »
I suspect Sherwood has been told he has two games to get us out of the relegation zone - he may have a clause too that enables us to sack him with less compensation if we are in the bottom three.

I'd be ok with Rodgers, but would really like to see Bielsa grab the club by the throat and shake us out of our nightmare.

I agree about Rodgers. He would probably be the first 'proper' manager we have had since MON.

 


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