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Offline Rudy65

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1965 on: October 11, 2015, 06:14:08 AM »
You have to say these transfer committees seem bizarre but all clubs seem to have them. Klopp will undoubtedly be his own man and have much more say, and probably the final word as opposed to the limited autonomy Rodgers had. I cant see Van Gaal, Wenger or Fergie not having the final word

Does anyone know anything about the track record of Paddy Reilly and the sporting director?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1966 on: October 11, 2015, 09:06:39 AM »
You're missing the point, it's the thinking.
Come on Dave don't expect the poster to be linked with "thinking".

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1967 on: October 11, 2015, 09:10:04 AM »
Ok I will keep it simple for you. We needed a gross spend minimum of £65m in the summer. That's the budget that should have been set and spent . On quality, proven quality, not gambles and dice throwing,

You think we should have had a net spend of 65m despite getting 40m for Benteke and Delph?

So a spend of 105m?

Honestly, do you really believe some of the shit you come out with? I find it hard to believe. It's like you've spent the last 24 hours going around from thread to thread posting the biggest load of nonsense you can come up with.

Once more. I was pointing out that net spend arguments are a totally different thing to "should have bought this player for the same price as that one". Still, feel free to bang on about something entirely different.
I said GROSS of £65m so roughly another £18m on top of the measily £7m net we spent. That would of got us a decent proven striker, a RB and a GK.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2015, 09:13:25 AM by silhillvilla »

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1968 on: October 11, 2015, 09:11:35 AM »
Does anyone know anything about the track record of Paddy Reilly and the sporting director?
Almstad was at Arsenal and probably a good mate of Fox. At Arsensl he spent or signed next to nothing.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1969 on: October 11, 2015, 10:45:38 AM »
I think the money we spent in the summer was decent enough. The net spend argument is just nonsense. Albion spent more than us and ended up with the likes of Ricky Lambert and James Chester.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1970 on: October 11, 2015, 10:49:30 AM »
I agree other than we needed a right back and a forward. I just think Sherwood is making an almighty hash of things.

Offline brian green

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1971 on: October 11, 2015, 10:56:48 AM »
Balancing income and expenditure on players is normal and to be expected from any well run club. Even Fat Sam understood the logic of that when he described players as pop bottles (you get something back for them) or milk bottles (for which you get nothing).

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1972 on: October 11, 2015, 11:03:47 AM »
we've certainly had our fair share of milk shakes.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1973 on: October 11, 2015, 11:09:35 AM »
No problem with the spend, we filled plenty of places in the squad and i doubt many more expensive type players would have fancied it anyway. I suppose the 2 problems was not buying an experienced PL striker rather than either Gestede or Ayew and not off loading NZogbia, but it may not of been a lack of trying. All other areas were covered for me, and he had a lot of work to do with losing Benteke and Delph as well as having to ship out a lot of the dross. On the face of it he did an excellent job, it seemed.
Add to that the fact that he took us to the cup final and kept us up, won the first game of the new season away and all looked really promising. Whats happened since is truely shocking, one decent result in beating the blues in the cup. It appears that now the honeymoon period is over, hes getting found out for his lack of experience and subsequent tactical nouce. A real shame for us that there wasn't more quality underneath that appealing and promising exterior.
I see The Metro are linking us with Rodgers and saying if Sherwood doesn't get a win from either Chelsea or Swansea he's out. Not sure how that criteria can determine how the rest of the season will pan out but i suppose you have to draw the line somewhere. If i'm honest, i wouldn't have high hopes for Rodgers, but my gut feeling is that he'd be more likely to keep us up than Sherwood based on what we've seen so far this season, and with Rodgers having considerably more experience, so i wouldn't be too disappointed to see it happen.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2015, 11:11:53 AM by Clark W Griswold »

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1974 on: October 11, 2015, 11:27:29 AM »
For the last couple of years net spend has been less of a problem than the quality of management and coaching.

I'm not too unhappy with the business done this summer, allthough it could have been better. For a club that only narrowly escaped relegation last season and subsequently lost its two best players, I would probably have expected less risky signings (ie, unspectacular but proven PL-standard players as opposed to more adventurous signings that may or may not adapt to the league).

Online SoccerHQ

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1975 on: October 11, 2015, 11:39:07 AM »
We messed up not signing an experienced striker who knows this league.

That could've papered up the cracks under Sherwood until xmas perhaps. That was certainly the most disappointing element of the window for me, there was no plan B once Adebayor link went cold.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1976 on: October 11, 2015, 12:12:31 PM »
I hope we have made contact with our shortlisted managerial targets and told them to sit tight, because this buffoon will be gone in 2 weeks.

Offline ez

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1977 on: October 11, 2015, 12:22:07 PM »
We could really do with Sherwood finally getting things to 'click'. It would save so much bother. To me it looks like a team of average/good individuals without any guidance on the pitch. They are all still playing the way of their former bosses until they are waiting to be told how to play for us now.

Offline taylorsworkrate

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1978 on: October 11, 2015, 12:24:59 PM »
For the last couple of years net spend has been less of a problem than the quality of management and coaching.

I'm not too unhappy with the business done this summer, allthough it could have been better. For a club that only narrowly escaped relegation last season and subsequently lost its two best players, I would probably have expected less risky signings (ie, unspectacular but proven PL-standard players as opposed to more adventurous signings that may or may not adapt to the league).

In fairness, we signed those type of players last season, in Senderos, Richardson and Cole. And they were shite

Offline passitsideways

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1979 on: October 11, 2015, 12:37:33 PM »
For the last couple of years net spend has been less of a problem than the quality of management and coaching.

I'm not too unhappy with the business done this summer, allthough it could have been better. For a club that only narrowly escaped relegation last season and subsequently lost its two best players, I would probably have expected less risky signings (ie, unspectacular but proven PL-standard players as opposed to more adventurous signings that may or may not adapt to the league).

I think you can cast doubt with proven PL-standard players argument once you consider that QPR and Hull who did get relegated signed plenty of them. QPR signed Fer, Rio, Caulker, Sandro and Mutch; Hull signed Snodgrass (albeit he was injured), two Spurs rejects in Livermore and Dawson, and Diame.

 


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