Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[KevinGage]

The kicker for me is the games we've had and the relatively easy start to the season.

Had we had Newcastle's fixtures, I would still be miffed at our current league placing, but could reason things could turn with a kinder sequence of games.

But we're not facing that scenario.  Man U at home apart (and even they were no great shakes) we couldn't have picked a better set of opening fixtures to find some rhythm. We've fluffed that, and even if we pull out a surprise result over the next few games, I can't envisage things getting a whole lot better between now and Christmas.

I had said give him until November, and I would still lean that way.  But the replacement managers available then might not be as good as the current batch so we might need to show some dash and act decisively.

[pauliewalnuts]

After reading that article on the other Sherwood thread I'd sack him now for complete lack of awareness, knowledge and for incompetence. So he wanted to buy Townsend, Lennon and Adebayor but ended up with these talented youngsters with great potential from overseas and doesn't know what to do with them.

Indeed.

I saw that line about Lennon, Townsend and Adebayor and thought "in that case, thank fuck you weren't choosing the players, Timmy"

[dave.woodhall]

If it's ttue, fuck's sake. If it isn't, the media department should be on the case right away.

[Des Little]

I'm getting more worried by the day. Something is quite clearly very wrong.

[Ian.]

I'd say it is true. His after match comments admitting he's guessing with tactics, formations and different use of players leads me to believe he's never heard of or seen these players before and has no idea what to do with them.

It's so frustrating, our first summer in years when it seems we have spent very well and it does look like we have some very useful, technical and exciting players but we have a manager who would rather have Neil bloody Lennon on the wing trying to stick it on a big man up fronts head as a tactic.

[Toronto Villa]

The article is not only worrying but seems to be the first real line drawn in the sand where he is searching for his excuses as to why if didn't work. It won't be his fault, because the players weren't his choices and they couldn't adapt. It's a bit like when Lambert started going on about mysterious forces and seeing the ghost or spirit of Lerner around the club. Seems to me he's going a bit bonkers.

[PeterWithesShin]

I remember saying towards the end of Lambert's time here and that one of the reasons he needed to leave was for his own well being as he was looking lost, haggard and defeated etc. Sherwood has started looking the same way.

[Villa in Denmark]

I remember saying towards the end of Lambert's time here and that one of the reasons he needed to leave was for his own well being as he was looking lost, haggard and defeated etc. Sherwood has started looking the same way.

I said something similar yesterday.

It wouldn't be fair on us to let him relegate us, and it wouldn't be fair to him to drive him down to the extent the job drove Lambert down.  In the end with Lambert it was almost a humanitarian decision to put him out of his misery and Sherwood looks like he's heading the same way.

[itbrvilla]

I'm getting more worried by the day. Something is quite clearly very wrong.

Has been for years.

[Clampy]

After reading that article on the other Sherwood thread I'd sack him now for complete lack of awareness, knowledge and for incompetence. So he wanted to buy Townsend, Lennon and Adebayor but ended up with these talented youngsters with great potential from overseas and doesn't know what to do with them.

You are reading an article which for all you know might be a load of crap. It's not as if he's not been allowed to bring in experience. Richards and Lescott came in and he was on the verge on signing Adebayor. Since when has the Daily Mail been reliable?

[pbavfckuwait]

The article referencing the players not all being his choice is interesting, true or not, he must have accepted the set up/system of how the club wanted to handle transfers when he signed the contract, that much I am certain of, because if things had changed regarding that I am sure we would have been informed by his mates in the media.

Then to me comes the interesting part, that I believe will cost him his job sooner rather than later,he must have had discussions with Paddy and the other guy as to what sort of system,style of play he had in mind for this season and going forward, so they would have tailored their search for players to fit the system, now either they are incompetent or Sherwood flips and flops that much, that he does not understand how to implement his system, I think we may have seen this with his substitutions, so the players have no set game plan and even if performing are not sure if that is enough to keep them in the next side due to Tim trying something else.
He needs to settle on a system, with the allowance of change if need be, but subtle change, this I do not see him being able to accomplish.

[amfy]

After reading that article on the other Sherwood thread I'd sack him now for complete lack of awareness, knowledge and for incompetence. So he wanted to buy Townsend, Lennon and Adebayor but ended up with these talented youngsters with great potential from overseas and doesn't know what to do with them.

You are reading an article which for all you know might be a load of crap. It's not as if he's not been allowed to bring in experience. Richards and Lescott came in and he was on the verge on signing Adebayor. Since when has the Daily Mail been reliable?

I'm with Clampy - It could be true, and the truth will come out quickly or eventually, BUT that article has no quotes which haven't been lifted from Match of the Day or AVTV, not even the phrase 'sources say', and is in The Daily Mail.

Oddly, it also comes hot on the heels of someone on here wondering whether he was subject to similar restrictions to Rogers and we didn't know - so it isn't a strange thing to make up.someone here thought of it, so why wouldn't someone trying to think of something to write about our situation there think of it?  It doesn't look like the kind of thing people sue for libel over, so why not?

So, we are now instantly believing stuff we read in The Daily Mail #howfarhavewefallenetc

For me, if we don't improve, one of 2 things will happen: We'll get hammered by Chelsea & he'll walk or be pushed then; or he'll be sacked after the Watford game (28/11) leaving time for a new manager to come in and assess what we might need in January. I'm not going to worry about anything else, especially a completely sourceless article in The Daily Mail.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Thirded. There is more than enough to criticise Sherwood for with known facts. We dont need the latest made up bollocks from the Daily Mail.

[brian green]

Not even in panic mode stupidity would Sherwood come out with such self destructive comments.  I believe he could be on the road to such a level of self contradiction but that is Daily Mail shit stirring.  It is what they do.

[KevinGage]

That's not how these things work though, is it?

Before the situation became completely hopeless and Lambert felt emboldened enough to say whatever he wanted, we had various leaks talking about how little he had spent. And then we had Lambert's mates on Sky and elsewhere reelling of a list of players he had actually wanted to sign.