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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1680 on: October 07, 2015, 05:52:43 PM »
Anyway, if a new manager does come in, he's not going to know his best side either. I'm with John, it's too soon to be talking about getting rid of him or relegation.

A new manager won't, but he won't have had them for months including a full pre-season.

8 games gone, 6 defeats, 4 points from safety, a manager that has said he doesn't have a clue what he wants or is trying to do, complains they aren't fit enough despite it being his job to make sure they are. Normally i'd agree but because of the first sentence I don't think it is too early to be talking about. I'm usually Mr Optimistic and stuck by Lambert a lot longer than most, but Sherwood is worrying me a lot.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1681 on: October 07, 2015, 05:54:13 PM »
when you have the inexperienced leading the inexperienced (with obvious exceptions) it doesn't wholly surprise me that our results have been shite, but obviously that can't be allowed to go on for much longer. Can he turn it round in the next six games? Probably not, but his only salvation lies in a return to his earlier, bolder approach and  by properly utilising our most creative players.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1682 on: October 07, 2015, 05:55:07 PM »
when you have the inexperienced leading the inexperienced (with obvious exceptions) it doesn't wholly surprise me that our results have been shite, but obviously that can't be allowed to go on for much longer. Can he turn it round in the next six games? Probably not, but his only salvation lies in a return to his earlier, bolder approach and  by properly utilising our most creative players.

that's the way I see it too

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1683 on: October 07, 2015, 05:56:21 PM »
One thing a new manager should do almost immediately is recognise which players are either being underused or played out of position. The new manager bounce is usually put down to players being worried about their place in the side but that's only half the story - a change usually means someone looks at the squad with a fresh approach and the atmosphere is almost always leavened by the idea of a clean slate.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1684 on: October 07, 2015, 06:05:41 PM »
I would let him stay for now but on condition we don't fall any further from safety.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1685 on: October 07, 2015, 06:09:00 PM »
Our last 10 league games, W1 D1 L8. That worries me a lot.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1686 on: October 07, 2015, 06:11:45 PM »
Anyway, if a new manager does come in, he's not going to know his best side either. I'm with John, it's too soon to be talking about getting rid of him or relegation.

A new manager won't, but he won't have had them for months including a full pre-season.

8 games gone, 6 defeats, 4 points from safety, a manager that has said he doesn't have a clue what he wants or is trying to do, complains they aren't fit enough despite it being his job to make sure they are. Normally i'd agree but because of the first sentence I don't think it is too early to be talking about. I'm usually Mr Optimistic and stuck by Lambert a lot longer than most, but Sherwood is worrying me a lot.

Same here. We have managed one draw, at home to Sunderland I might add, in our last 7 league matches.

Offline john e

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1687 on: October 07, 2015, 06:11:49 PM »
Our last 10 league games, W1 D1 L8. That worries me a lot.


rubbish isn't it

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1688 on: October 07, 2015, 06:13:41 PM »
To try to turn this on its head, what would those that want to keep him say we're our best performances this season?

Offline Richard

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1689 on: October 07, 2015, 06:20:25 PM »
More a case of decent half game performances unfortunately which is why we are where we are :

Bournemouth 2nd half
Palace 1st half
Sunderland 1st half
Leicester 1st half
Blues 2nd half

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1690 on: October 07, 2015, 06:23:07 PM »
Anyway, if a new manager does come in, he's not going to know his best side either. I'm with John, it's too soon to be talking about getting rid of him or relegation.

A new manager won't, but he won't have had them for months including a full pre-season.

8 games gone, 6 defeats, 4 points from safety, a manager that has said he doesn't have a clue what he wants or is trying to do, complains they aren't fit enough despite it being his job to make sure they are. Normally i'd agree but because of the first sentence I don't think it is too early to be talking about. I'm usually Mr Optimistic and stuck by Lambert a lot longer than most, but Sherwood is worrying me a lot.

I understand the frustrations, it's been an horrendous start but I just honestly think 8 games is too soon.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1691 on: October 07, 2015, 06:34:07 PM »
Anyway, if a new manager does come in, he's not going to know his best side either. I'm with John, it's too soon to be talking about getting rid of him or relegation.

A new manager won't, but he won't have had them for months including a full pre-season.

8 games gone, 6 defeats, 4 points from safety, a manager that has said he doesn't have a clue what he wants or is trying to do, complains they aren't fit enough despite it being his job to make sure they are. Normally i'd agree but because of the first sentence I don't think it is too early to be talking about. I'm usually Mr Optimistic and stuck by Lambert a lot longer than most, but Sherwood is worrying me a lot.

I understand the frustrations, it's been an horrendous start but I just honestly think 8 games is too soon.

Why? Balls to it being a smallish sample of games, what have you seen of his work this season that convinces you to persevere with him?

I don't hate Sherwood. I would much prefer it if he succeeded. But not only is he not succeeding, he is approaching trying to fix that in ever more mental ways.

Offline Risso

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1692 on: October 07, 2015, 06:42:12 PM »
I met Sam Allardyce today. It's a sign.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1693 on: October 07, 2015, 06:43:34 PM »
For me it's the fact that there doesn't seem to be any method to his madness. It's just madness. We all expected some early turmoil and allowing for a time for players to integrate and get to know each other. But after a full summer and pre season and a number of games he has no idea where he is taking this. And he has made that position very public and frankly very embarrassing. He was so definitive in his goals when he arrived and anything but since.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1694 on: October 07, 2015, 06:45:05 PM »
Did he give you any pork scratchings?

 


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