Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[silhillvilla]

I want him sacked yesterday but it's not happening is it. Hence next 2-3 games , if we win them brilliant, but, if as it seems we lose all 2 or 3 please let him be gone

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't want a fucking manager learning his trade here for a start. Anyhow, what does he seem to learn from any of those mistakes? Nothing, he just makes different ones.

The thing about his mistakes are not just that he picks tactics/personnel/formations that don't work. He sometimes does things that do work for a bit and then doesn't do them again.

And also picks stuff that does work from the start, and inexplicably change it to something that doesn't work before the match has ended.

[old man villa fan]

When I saw the team on Saturday, my first reaction was that he was trying to get the sack.  After the game I was thinking that it was a deliberate tactic from the start to replace Lescott at half time (as with Blues).  If that was the tactic, it meant using one of his substitutes in a defensive move and almost giving up the first half.  This then limited further substitutions.  Very strange and I am at a loss to understand it.

[brontebilly]

I have no answer to the lack of a proven striker.

I also don't have an answer but I have an opinion that Kozak deserves a chance to see if he can become that answer.  He had a decent pre-season, has a good scoring for us and has worked his arse off to get fit, he deserves a run of sub appearances at the very least, I find it bizarre that we haven't looked at him, I also find the complete lack of time Ayew has been given central or on the left (the 2 positions he'd actually played before he joined us) bizarre.

All that said I think part of what we're seeing is a direct result of the number of signings he made.  I'm not saying he was wrong to do it, but it feels a bit like he was a kid in a toy shop who was told he could get whatever he wanted, so he did and now he can't work out what to do with them all.

I wouldnt mind Kozak given a chance but he is far from the answer to our problems at the top of the pitch.

Poor hold up play, no pace, no presence (Gestede-lite) really.

Could be a useful impact player off the bench if we needed a goal like at the weekend perhaps.

Also I wouldnt say the lack of time Ayew has been given a surprise, aside from the encouraging cameo against Birmingham, he has been utterly woeful so far including his appearance against Stoke.

Played up top against United, granted with Gabby, both of them looked clones of the same dumb footballer.

Granted I want Timmy gone asap but perhaps we overestimate the individual quality in our squad

Right now there isnt one single player in the squad where you can say with confidence that he will hold his own over the next 5 games.

[pauliewalnuts]

I want him sacked yesterday but it's not happening is it. Hence next 2-3 games , if we win them brilliant, but, if as it seems we lose all 2 or 3 please let him be gone

If we lose the next three matches, he won't be gone.

I'm afraid this might be one of these appointments that will be stuck by even to the point of getting relegated.

I'm finding myself partially - just a bit, mind - starting to think fuck it, we might as well get relegated and get it out of our systems.

It's like having a job interview or a root canal appointment with the dentist lined up. You get into a bit of a nervous state over it in the run up, but in the end you just want it over and done with and once it starts, it is OK. Once it is over, you feel significantly happier.

[pauliewalnuts]

I have no answer to the lack of a proven striker.

I also don't have an answer but I have an opinion that Kozak deserves a chance to see if he can become that answer.  He had a decent pre-season, has a good scoring for us and has worked his arse off to get fit, he deserves a run of sub appearances at the very least, I find it bizarre that we haven't looked at him, I also find the complete lack of time Ayew has been given central or on the left (the 2 positions he'd actually played before he joined us) bizarre.

All that said I think part of what we're seeing is a direct result of the number of signings he made.  I'm not saying he was wrong to do it, but it feels a bit like he was a kid in a toy shop who was told he could get whatever he wanted, so he did and now he can't work out what to do with them all.

I wouldnt mind Kozak given a chance but he is far from the answer to our problems at the top of the pitch.

Poor hold up play, no pace, no presence (Gestede-lite) really.

Could be a useful impact player off the bench if we needed a goal like at the weekend perhaps.

Also I wouldnt say the lack of time Ayew has been given a surprise, aside from the encouraging cameo against Birmingham, he has been utterly woeful so far including his appearance against Stoke.

Played up top against United, granted with Gabby, both of them looked clones of the same dumb footballer.

Granted I want Timmy gone asap but perhaps we overestimate the individual quality in our squad

Right now there isnt one single player in the squad where you can say with confidence that he will hold his own over the next 5 games.

I think that's harsh on Kozak.

He strikes me as quite a clever footballer, he's able to hold the ball up, bring others in to play, and he can even create space for himself where there isn't any obvious option.

I thought he looked one of our best players in the pre-season games he featured in.

I know this sounds harsh on Gestede, who has actually scored a few goals for us, but Kozak strikes me as a significantly better all-round striker than Gestede does.

[old man villa fan]

I've seen several reasons floated as to why he shouldn't get the chop.

It wouldn't be fair/too soon.
Hope he turns it around.
Blind hope.
It would be a bit small time / Newcastle to can him already.

I don't think that I've seen 1 footballing reason to keep him in the job since the thread was started and that in itself is pretty damning.

ViD, you are right.  The only reason to keep him is if you can realistically see things improving.  To me, I do not care what he says in interviews and how it sounds, it is results on the pitch that I care about.  I think he has 3 games to get the right players on the pitch and another 3 games to get them playing.  After that, if there is no improvement, I do not see it improving with more games.

Preseason, I thought I could see a plan with the players he brought in but I am lost to see what Sherwood is trying to do with the constant changing of players and formations.

[silhillvilla]

I want him sacked yesterday but it's not happening is it. Hence next 2-3 games , if we win them brilliant, but, if as it seems we lose all 2 or 3 please let him be gone

If we lose the next three matches, he won't be gone.

I'm afraid this might be one of these appointments that will be stuck by even to the point of getting relegated.

I'm finding myself partially - just a bit, mind - starting to think fuck it, we might as well get relegated and get it out of our systems.

It's like having a job interview or a root canal appointment with the dentist lined up. You get into a bit of a nervous state over it in the run up, but in the end you just want it over and done with and once it starts, it is OK. Once it is over, you feel significantly happier.

Know exactly where you're coming from.
In all my time following villa, arguably the most enjoyable season ever was that season down in the old division one with Sir Graham, probably partly because I was 19/20 at the time and life was a care-free , wonderlust breeze,  but also after a desperate season before the whole thing was a fresh release for club and fans.

[pauliewalnuts]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I loved that season too, but I think going down now will have very little in common with that as an experience, and the money situation around it is certainly different.

For me it is just a "sick of being shit scared it is going to happen year after year" thing.

[PeterWithe]

For what it's worth I reckon Kozac is just as shit as Gestede, and that is going some.

[David_Nab]

Kozak has decent movement and I think he is better with ball at his feet than Gestede.

TV Money too huge to lose , this form carries on he is for the chop.Fox acted when Lambert took us into drop zone ,he will act again IMO.

[Toronto Villa]

If we lose the next three he'll be fired. The fear of not being in the PL next season when the gravy train arrives will be too much to bear for the board. In fact I reckon lose the next two it could be curtains and it won't shock me at all if we aren't looking at our options already especially the likes of Rodgers bring out there, maybe even Moyes.

[silhillvilla]

If we lose the next three he'll be fired. The fear of not being in the PL next season when the gravy train arrives will be too much to bear for the board. In fact I reckon lose the next two it could be curtains and it won't shock me at all if we aren't looking at our options already especially the likes of Rodgers bring out there, maybe even Moyes.

Well let's hope so as this clearly isn't going to work and we need a bounce and some.

[ozzjim]

Kozak scoring goals in pre season then being dropped when the season started was just strange. He should be given the chance, and is every bit as good as Gestede in my opinion.

[villadelph]

Kozak scoring goals in pre season then being dropped when the season started was just strange. He should be given the chance, and is every bit as good as Gestede in my opinion.

Every bit as good? Kozak, pre-leg break, was far and away better than Gestede.