Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[cheltenhamlion]

Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.

I'm not picking on you here because lots of others have said similar things, but we're you saying that when we beat Albion twice in the space of week, put 4 past Sunderland in half hour (mind you, who doesn't), went to Spurs and won, made Liverpool look ordinary in the Semi Final and had Benteke banging in 12 goals in 10 games or whatever it was? It wasn't that long ago. A little patience wouldn't so amiss.

Yes, he has only been here seven months. There are some big question marks but I simply don't think he has had long enough to throw away the good work and make a change. Not an awful lot left in the goodwill bank mind.

Normally I would agree. It seems wrong to give someone so little time. But we are getting worse.

At the best he is naive, at worst (and as I believe) hopelessly out of his depth. It is easy to not be Paul Lambert. It makes sense to try to attack and play to the strengths of a striker with the potential to be one of the finest in the world.

It doesn't make sense to start with a suicidal high line against the pace Southampton have. It doesn't make sense to switch a midfielder for a striker when 2 up away from home.

It doesn't make sense to chase games against Olbiyun by bashing it long to Gestede. Or starting 5 at the back against Stoke. Or leaving every creative player you have on the bench.

He isn't learning. He tries to fix the wrong problems. He doesn't know how he wants us to play. I get the impression that what he did well last year was because it was blindingly obvious and the reason Lambert was toast was for not doing it. When it isn't obvious he isn't sure.

As sure as eggs are eggs, keep him for another month or two and we will go down.

[PeterWithe]

Has he made the same mistake twice though, honest question? Yes he makes mistakes but aren't they different ones and if so can't that be put down to inexperience and being part of a learning curve.

[cheltenhamlion]

I don't want a fucking manager learning his trade here for a start. Anyhow, what does he seem to learn from any of those mistakes? Nothing, he just makes different ones.

[PeterWithe]

He'll have made them all soon, then no more. Happy days.

I hope.

[oldhill_avfc]

Sadly he has to go.

Not because his tactics are poor (which they undeniably are), but because the squad is so poor.  None of the signings have improved on obvious weaknesses from last year.

We need someone who can make a silk purse out of sow's ear until Christmas, then at least £30m needs to spent on a central midfielder and goal,scorer to have any chance of staying in the division.

Sherwood is not the man for either job.

[Nastylee]

When you think back to bearing Albino twice, demolishing Sunderland, etc it is even more galling how far removed our current approach is to those promising games. It's the mirror opposite.

[cheltenhamlion]

Sadly he has to go.

Not because his tactics are poor (which they undeniably are), but because the squad is so poor.  None of the signings have improved on obvious weaknesses from last year.

We need someone who can make a silk purse out of sow's ear until Christmas, then at least £30m needs to spent on a central midfielder and goal,scorer to have any chance of staying in the division.

Sherwood is not the man for either job.

I disagree with that as well. This squad is perfectly capable. It isn't being used correctly.

That is the very basis of why I want him chopped now. We ate delaying the inevitable.

[Legion]

I actually think we have a pretty decent squad of players. It is the way they are being used by Sherwood that is the problem.

[andyh]

Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.

I'm not picking on you here because lots of others have said similar things, but we're you saying that when we beat Albion twice in the space of week, put 4 past Sunderland in half hour (mind you, who doesn't), went to Spurs and won, made Liverpool look ordinary in the Semi Final and had Benteke banging in 12 goals in 10 games or whatever it was? It wasn't that long ago. A little patience wouldn't so amiss.

They are all very valid points, but at the same time we can quote, Arsenal, Southampton, Burnley and every league game since (cepting B'Mouth).
The lean times are continuing to outweigh the good.

[Risso]

Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.

I'm not picking on you here because lots of others have said similar things, but we're you saying that when we beat Albion twice in the space of week, put 4 past Sunderland in half hour (mind you, who doesn't), went to Spurs and won, made Liverpool look ordinary in the Semi Final and had Benteke banging in 12 goals in 10 games or whatever it was? It wasn't that long ago. A little patience wouldn't so amiss.

Yes, he has only been here seven months. There are some big question marks but I simply don't think he has had long enough to throw away the good work and make a change. Not an awful lot left in the goodwill bank mind.

I have been thinking about this a lot since Saturday and that is just about where I am. Let us see everyone fit for a few games and look at it at Christmas.

Who hasn't been fit that would have made a huge amount of difference?  Gabby?

[Legion]

Okore?

[PaulWinch again]

I actually think we have a pretty decent squad of players. It is the way they are being used by Sherwood that is the problem.

I'd agree with that although I think we're short a quality centre forward and right back.

[Legion]

Richards could always play at RB once Okore or even Senderos (is he still with us?) are back.

[cheltenhamlion]

Ignore the flight of fancy in this, but another analogy if I may.

I want to knock down my conservatory and build an extension.  The problem is the council won't have it and Marjorie Evans who makes these decisions always fights against building on anything that would otherwise be grass.

To appeal to her better nature I arrange a meeting in my conservatory at home. To give me the best place to showcase why this isn't an issue, I employ Dave.

Dave is a landscape gardener from Lye. Salt of the Earth. Learned the job from his Dad and Uncle.

He does four days work, makes the garden look magnificent and demonstrates to Marjorie that my extension won't harm such a fantastic selection of flora and fawna. Marjorie gives the extension the green light.

Do I ask Dave to build the extension? Take him on as a domestic employee with an annual contract to turn my back garden into something akin to the grounds at Longleat? 

Or do you bung him a ton to treat himself to a few beers and take the kids out? Give a testimonial he can use in future?

That is where we are at the minute.

[Legion]

I have no answer to the lack of a proven striker.