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Offline CT Villan

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1560 on: October 06, 2015, 04:34:55 PM »
The other problem is that it isn't an overnight improvement with regard to fitness training - I have found it typically takes about 4 weeks before you start to realize the benefit, hence why they are supposed to start the training pre-season...maybe Tim knows different ?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1561 on: October 06, 2015, 04:37:13 PM »
The other problem is that it isn't an overnight improvement with regard to fitness training - I have found it typically takes about 4 weeks before you start to realize the benefit, hence why they are supposed to start the training pre-season...maybe Tim knows different ?

Nah It will be fine, we can be told for the next month whilst we are losing that we are still getting fit and gelling as a team.

Offline CT Villan

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1562 on: October 06, 2015, 04:43:06 PM »
Nah It will be fine, we can be told for the next month whilst we are losing that we are still getting fit and gelling as a team.

lol...and sadly, probably true !

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1563 on: October 06, 2015, 05:07:29 PM »
I'm sure the argument would be that he has bought in a lot of players from abroad and they don't have the required levels of fitness needed to play in the Premier League, not sure if that holds any water at all as it doesn't seem to hinder foreign clubs against English opposition.

Any road, I agree with him, we didn't look as fit as Stoke did, he can't change the past but he can make them fitter now.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1564 on: October 06, 2015, 05:21:31 PM »
Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.

He says he doesn't know his best team, wtf? The blues game was a perfect example of what suits our squad and what doesn't. I think it's alarming that after that first half against blues, he even considered playing 3 centre backs.
Why didn't he start the next game with the players and system we finished against blues?

If we do not sack him now, we will be 10 points from safety by mid November.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1565 on: October 06, 2015, 05:24:39 PM »
I actually think there is something in Sherwood saying that we're not fit enough to play they way he wants [i.e. the way Cleverley and Delph were at points last season]. The question is why aren't they prepared physically to do that?

If they're not fit enough to play the way that he wants, why didn't he think about doing something about it when he had the chance over the summer rather than complaining about it now?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1566 on: October 06, 2015, 05:26:48 PM »
That's what I've asked.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1567 on: October 06, 2015, 05:30:12 PM »
I actually think there is something in Sherwood saying that we're not fit enough to play they way he wants [i.e. the way Cleverley and Delph were at points last season]. The question is why aren't they prepared physically to do that?

If they're not fit enough to play the way that he wants, why didn't he think about doing something about it when he had the chance over the summer rather than complaining about it now?

A sensible point, he should have got them fit enough to play any way he might want over the course of the season.

I'm mindful that as soon as managers become unpopular then every single aspect of their performance starts to be criticised, whether its fair comment or not. The fitness issue does point to a rather alarming lack of preparation though.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1568 on: October 06, 2015, 05:34:26 PM »
That is not Tourette's Syndrome Chris. Tourette himself on seeing a fat man from Dudley would have asked for a bottle of Vimto and a packet of pork scratchings.  What you have got is referred to in medical circles as Jameson's Syndrome.  Have you made a will?

Think I need to Brian. If I was going to have a syndrome named after me I thought it would be related to my inability to perform any DIY task, no matter how simple, successfully.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1569 on: October 06, 2015, 05:38:40 PM »
Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.


I'm not picking on you here because lots of others have said similar things, but we're you saying that when we beat Albion twice in the space of week, put 4 past Sunderland in half hour (mind you, who doesn't), went to Spurs and won, made Liverpool look ordinary in the Semi Final and had Benteke banging in 12 goals in 10 games or whatever it was? It wasn't that long ago. A little patience wouldn't so amiss.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1570 on: October 06, 2015, 05:42:06 PM »
I actually think there is something in Sherwood saying that we're not fit enough to play they way he wants [i.e. the way Cleverley and Delph were at points last season]. The question is why aren't they prepared physically to do that?

If they're not fit enough to play the way that he wants, why didn't he think about doing something about it when he had the chance over the summer rather than complaining about it now?

Didn't he have them doing extra training to get them up to fitness?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1571 on: October 06, 2015, 05:49:11 PM »
Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.


I'm not picking on you here because lots of others have said similar things, but we're you saying that when we beat Albion twice in the space of week, put 4 past Sunderland in half hour (mind you, who doesn't), went to Spurs and won, made Liverpool look ordinary in the Semi Final and had Benteke banging in 12 goals in 10 games or whatever it was? It wasn't that long ago. A little patience wouldn't so amiss.

Yes, he has only been here seven months. There are some big question marks but I simply don't think he has had long enough to throw away the good work and make a change. Not an awful lot left in the goodwill bank mind.

Offline puppyfeat

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1572 on: October 06, 2015, 05:53:17 PM »
The Villa job does seem to beat a lot of managers. Tim is already looking a lot older and more haggard than he did last season.
So am I!

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1573 on: October 06, 2015, 05:59:29 PM »
Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.


I'm not picking on you here because lots of others have said similar things, but we're you saying that when we beat Albion twice in the space of week, put 4 past Sunderland in half hour (mind you, who doesn't), went to Spurs and won, made Liverpool look ordinary in the Semi Final and had Benteke banging in 12 goals in 10 games or whatever it was? It wasn't that long ago. A little patience wouldn't so amiss.

Yes, he has only been here seven months. There are some big question marks but I simply don't think he has had long enough to throw away the good work and make a change. Not an awful lot left in the goodwill bank mind.

I have been thinking about this a lot since Saturday and that is just about where I am. Let us see everyone fit for a few games and look at it at Christmas.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1574 on: October 06, 2015, 06:06:14 PM »
Tim has no identity, no style and basically no clue.


I'm not picking on you here because lots of others have said similar things, but we're you saying that when we beat Albion twice in the space of week, put 4 past Sunderland in half hour (mind you, who doesn't), went to Spurs and won, made Liverpool look ordinary in the Semi Final and had Benteke banging in 12 goals in 10 games or whatever it was? It wasn't that long ago. A little patience wouldn't so amiss.

Patience is what Villa fans have had in buckets over these last 5 years.

 


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