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Offline Alex77

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1530 on: October 06, 2015, 01:15:50 PM »
i wish he'd stop speaking in the third person. what a massive prick.

If I was him I'd carry on doing it. That way he can be one step removed from the shitness he's putting out on the pitch each week.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1531 on: October 06, 2015, 01:23:40 PM »
i wish he'd stop speaking in the third person. what a massive prick.

I was about to say he does himself no favours doing that.

His comments about being the man to turn it around, he just sounds like someone who knows their out of the depth and is just waiting to be sacked. He should have been gone sometime between Saturday night and Monday morning and we should be using the international break to find the right person, even if it's only the right person for now.

It's a mistake to have not already acted. They seem to think Sherwood's 'mini pre-season training camp' can do the job but Sherwood's far more at fault than the players. How long before those same players start questioning him and his tactics and he loses the dressing room? Is that what needs to happen before action is taken?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1532 on: October 06, 2015, 01:24:00 PM »
I've had enough of young managers from the lower leagues. I would like someone battled hardened with eyes that speak of a never-ending and impenetrable weariness. Step up Fat Sam.

Offline KRS

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1533 on: October 06, 2015, 01:24:53 PM »
I would - personally I think he has performed close on a miracle with that bunch of knuckleheads.

Plus we could, well most of us, could ensure we nailed that we didn't like McLeish because he was Nose as opposed to because he was shite.
To be fair to him, Rowett spoke very well on Radio WM last night and was pretty non-commital in terms of his long term future so clearly has ambitions of stepping up to the PL. He seems very level headed, calm and not the kind of bloke that would get caught up in his own ego or confused by his own tactics...pretty much the exact opposite of Sherwood in terms of personality.

In other news, Frank de Boer made it pretty clear that he'd be interested in a move away from Ajax if the right club came in for him. Frank would be a more realistic target than the likes of Klopp who looks nailed on for Liverpool now unfortunately.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1534 on: October 06, 2015, 01:29:08 PM »
i wish he'd stop speaking in the third person. what a massive prick.

I was about to say he does himself no favours doing that.

His comments about being the man to turn it around, he just sounds like someone who knows their out of the depth and is just waiting to be sacked. He should have been gone sometime between Saturday night and Monday morning and we should be using the international break to find the right person, even if it's only the right person for now.

It's a mistake to have not already acted. They seem to think Sherwood's 'mini pre-season training camp' can do the job but Sherwood's far more at fault than the players. How long before those same players start questioning him and his tactics and he loses the dressing room? Is that what needs to happen before action is taken?

I think he already has.

The cockyness and general bluster of Soundbite Sherwood was probably just what the players needed in February.

But there seems to be very little beyond that, and it looks like he has been found out.  Players generally don't appreciate being hung out to dry when things go wrong either. 

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1535 on: October 06, 2015, 01:34:38 PM »
He is basically a less talented  Redknapp

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1536 on: October 06, 2015, 01:36:09 PM »
I don't have too much of a problem with what Sherwood came out and said. It might not be what fans want to hear but at least he's being honest. He's tried different things, it hasn't worked and he's admitted it.

That honesty just says he's not up to the job though. He doesn't know what his best side is but a blind man on a galloping horse could have told him that the side he picked against Stoke was the wrong one.  He's just not up to it I'm afraid. I think Chelsea will batter us then that will be it for him.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1537 on: October 06, 2015, 01:38:07 PM »
I think Chelsea will batter us then that will be it for him.

In that case, a battering would be worth it.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1538 on: October 06, 2015, 01:38:08 PM »
i wish he'd stop speaking in the third person. what a massive prick.

I was about to say he does himself no favours doing that.

His comments about being the man to turn it around, he just sounds like someone who knows their out of the depth and is just waiting to be sacked. He should have been gone sometime between Saturday night and Monday morning and we should be using the international break to find the right person, even if it's only the right person for now.

It's a mistake to have not already acted. They seem to think Sherwood's 'mini pre-season training camp' can do the job but Sherwood's far more at fault than the players. How long before those same players start questioning him and his tactics and he loses the dressing room? Is that what needs to happen before action is taken?

I think he already has.

The cockyness and general bluster of Soundbite Sherwood was probably just what the players needed in February.

But there seems to be very little beyond that, and it looks like he has been found out.  Players generally don't appreciate being hung out to dry when things go wrong either. 

I agree. I said at the time that Sherwood was a good short term appointment and a bad long term one. I maintain he was the perfect candidate for the job at hand last season, with his infectious confidence, ability to finesse egos and apparent imperviousness to the losing mentality that looms over us as a club. A technically far better manager might well have failed at that particular job. I'm grateful to TS for that and to Fox for getting him in to do the job.

But we're now seeing his shortcomings writ large and the kindest thing is for him to get the bullet while he will probably be seen as a  promising candidate for a championship club.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1539 on: October 06, 2015, 01:40:44 PM »
Another way of looking at that Sky table is to say the average net amount invested in new players by premier league clubs is £23m.

We had the worst squad of any surviving club last year, and spent £9m net improving it.

I haven't looked club by club but I'd guess that we're also one of the most affected by free transfer losses too, with Cleverley and Vlaar- may be wrong.

We signed Richards on a free too though. I imagine in a situation where each player had 2+ years left on their contracts he would command a similar fee to Cleverley and Vlaar combined.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1540 on: October 06, 2015, 01:55:43 PM »
Even in at my most hysterically anti-Sherwood last year, I conceded that he could well keep us up. All that bluff and (possibly undeserved) self-assurance can well rub off, and thank God it did last season. It was also a nice contrast with Lambert, who spent most of his time with us last season wearing a take-away-my-shoelaces expression on his face.

However, bluffers don't tend to plan very well, and so it's proving with Tim. Those comments, that he's just jigging it around to find what works, pretty much proves that he doesn't actually know how any plan he might come up with will work - he's just hoping that one will. Would any business organisation take that? It's just not good enough.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1541 on: October 06, 2015, 02:02:21 PM »
He is basically a less talented  Redknapp

Yep. And Redknapp has a few relegations and bankrupt clubs on his CV

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1542 on: October 06, 2015, 02:17:30 PM »
Even in at my most hysterically anti-Sherwood last year, I conceded that he could well keep us up. All that bluff and (possibly undeserved) self-assurance can well rub off, and thank God it did last season. It was also a nice contrast with Lambert, who spent most of his time with us last season wearing a take-away-my-shoelaces expression on his face.

However, bluffers don't tend to plan very well, and so it's proving with Tim. Those comments, that he's just jigging it around to find what works, pretty much proves that he doesn't actually know how any plan he might come up with will work - he's just hoping that one will. Would any business organisation take that? It's just not good enough.

Spot on Monty. I also think that some of his signings are looking like panic buys, eg Gestede

Offline CT Villan

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1543 on: October 06, 2015, 02:17:38 PM »
I think when Sherwood was appointed we had a pretty good idea of what we were getting, he worked wonders to keep us up and I was supportive of his appointment. Where I am now most disappointed is with the backroom staff, who I thought would provide the vast experience that Sherwood was lacking and give the necessary support to make us a force once again. They have failed, miserably, as a team and need to be replaced en masse, as soon as possible*.

* as long as there is someone better available

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1544 on: October 06, 2015, 02:18:20 PM »
I'll be gutted if Sunderland pull off the Moyes appointment as that's probably going to keep them up and secure their future. We could do a lot worse. Tim may come good but I'm worried that we don't have the time to wait and find out.

 


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