Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[Toronto Villa]

Chris, sorry that's just not true. What regular dismissals are you referring to? He was fired at Blackburn and Newcastle. He left Bolton and his contract not extended at West Ham. Where has he not tried to integrate skill players? He's had several at the clubs he's had. Not like he cast any of them aside. That he'll be divisive for fans goes saying and whether you like his football or not is opinion. But other two things simply don't add up.

[saunders_heroes]

I say if Sunderland take Allardyce, so be it. If not, we've got him there as a get-out if we go another 4 or 5 without winning and we're forced to sack Sherwood.

The only realistic name out there I'd swap in right now would be Moyes. If we can get him then the decision is made.

I'd take Moyes in a heartbeat, but again would he work under Lerner? I'd doubt if any top manager would.

How many times have we heard a middle of the road manager like Moyes is (who I would happily take, BTW) turn down a team because of ownership, unless they have a reputation for complete and utter mentalism? Offer him enough money and give him enough vague promises, that's all that's required.

I wouldn't be surprised if we had offered him the job in the past and he turned us down when he saw the budget. If it were as simple as you say then why have we had a string of appalling managers since Lerner decided to run the club on a relative shoe string?

[saunders_heroes]

IIRC even Ferguson said his dismissal at Blackburn was ridiculous.

Well he would say that considering he's a big mate of Allardyce.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm not convinced by Moyes. You want dour then he's your man. If you want the architect of the 4-6-0 then he's your man. If you want mid table stability he'll give us that but it might take a few seasons for him to put together.

[PeterWithesShin]

IIRC even Ferguson said his dismissal at Blackburn was ridiculous.

Well he would say that considering he's a big mate of Allardyce.

Considering what's happened to Blackburn since, he wasn't wrong was he.

[Toronto Villa]

IIRC even Ferguson said his dismissal at Blackburn was ridiculous.

Well he would say that considering he's a big mate of Allardyce.

In fairness though it was a stupid dismissal and not related to results. And frankly the heady heights of 13th seem a division away for us right now. Sadly.

[saunders_heroes]

IIRC even Ferguson said his dismissal at Blackburn was ridiculous.

Well he would say that considering he's a big mate of Allardyce.

Considering what's happened to Blackburn since, he wasn't wrong was he.

He keeps teams in the PL I give you that but the deal is his team's play the most appalling negative football seen since the Wimbledon days.
As for Ferguson - well he's got a habit of sticking up for his mates. Remember that letter Randy was boasting about not so long ago...

[Chris Smith]

Chris, sorry that's just not true. What regular dismissals are you referring to? He was fired at Blackburn and Newcastle. He left Bolton and his contract not extended at West Ham. Where has he not tried to integrate skill players? He's had several at the clubs he's had. Not like he cast any of them aside. That he'll be divisive for fans goes saying and whether you like his football or not is opinion. But other two things simply don't add up.

His last three jobs he has either been sacked (Newcastle, Blackburn) or nor had his contract renewed (West Ham), i.e. in each case the club no longer wanted him.

[PeterWithesShin]

Chris, sorry that's just not true. What regular dismissals are you referring to? He was fired at Blackburn and Newcastle. He left Bolton and his contract not extended at West Ham. Where has he not tried to integrate skill players? He's had several at the clubs he's had. Not like he cast any of them aside. That he'll be divisive for fans goes saying and whether you like his football or not is opinion. But other two things simply don't add up.

His last three jobs he has either been sacked (Newcastle, Blackburn) or nor had his contract renewed (West Ham), i.e. in each case the club no longer wanted him.

How much did it look like any of those were going down when he left? What happened to Blackburn and Newcastle after he left? And how many times has Pardew been sacked in the same time period?

I'd prefer not to have Allardyce, but am not going to try and skew things just to suit that.

[supertom]

Chris, sorry that's just not true. What regular dismissals are you referring to? He was fired at Blackburn and Newcastle. He left Bolton and his contract not extended at West Ham. Where has he not tried to integrate skill players? He's had several at the clubs he's had. Not like he cast any of them aside. That he'll be divisive for fans goes saying and whether you like his football or not is opinion. But other two things simply don't add up.

His last three jobs he has either been sacked (Newcastle, Blackburn) or nor had his contract renewed (West Ham), i.e. in each case the club no longer wanted him.

Well, each of those clubs is an absolute shambles. He wouldn't have taken Newcastle down that year. Plus Allardyce will not hide his feelings if he thinks his employer is a clown. I'd piggy back the big gruff bastard here if he wanted the job. We're such a load of dog shite at the moment that if we went down we'd need to scrape the whole place clean, top to bottom, before starting again. We're so bad at the moment in every aspect that you could stick Baldrick in the board room and tell him to come up with a cunning plan to transform us, and it would be a cut above what that plonker Randy and his prat mate Fox would come up with.

Baldrick can be chief of operations and Trigger can be our new chairman. We'll get Mr Bean in as our new manager. Instant improvement...but we'd still go down. We might finish 18th instead of 20th though.

[silhillvilla]

thing with allardyce is he will probably keep us up and if he didn't he'd be a good manager to dig us out the championship .

[levico]

I can't believe that Big Sam would even give us a second thought. Any self respecting manager with PL experience would see us as a toxic option at the moment.

[Jimbo]

Go for Klopp or Moyes, with assurances of cash to spend in January, but do it now because if we don't our relegation rivals will.

[in exile]

...Any self respecting manager with PL experience would see us as a toxic option at the moment.

This is kind of where I am at the moment

[Risso]

Claudio Ranieri has been sacked/left by mutual consent from about his last 8 jobs, he's doing OK at the moment.