Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[Chris Smith]

Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?

Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

That's massively skewed by the amount of time he spent at Bolton. Since then he has been sacked twice and not had his contract renewed at West Ham.

OK, well even since Bolton it's 3 jobs in 8 years.  So using your criteria, we shouldn't go for a manager who has ever been sacked or who has had more than 3 jobs in 8 years.

We shouldn't go for Allardyce as I don't like him or the football his teams play, the regular dismissals just emphasis that I am not alone in thinking that. He'll be divisive from day, similar to McLeish, and players like Grealish and Gil would not get a look in.

[DB]

We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

We will hit rock bottom if we continue with Sherwood.

[JJ-AV]

I say if Sunderland take Allardyce, so be it. If not, we've got him there as a get-out if we go another 4 or 5 without winning and we're forced to sack Sherwood.

The only realistic name out there I'd swap in right now would be Moyes. If we can get him then the decision is made.

[saunders_heroes]

We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

We will hit rock bottom if we continue with Sherwood.

Probably, but my point was that only club's who have hit rock bottom would think of employing him, and something I hoped would never happen to the Villa.
We're into our 6th season of absolute purgatory supporting Villa. Lerner should hang his head in shame.

[john e]

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[PeterWithesShin]

And how many times has Pardew been sacked in the same time period you're talking about Allardyce? I detest Pardew the smug twat, but can't argue with what he's doing at Palace.

[saunders_heroes]

I say if Sunderland take Allardyce, so be it. If not, we've got him there as a get-out if we go another 4 or 5 without winning and we're forced to sack Sherwood.

The only realistic name out there I'd swap in right now would be Moyes. If we can get him then the decision is made.

I'd take Moyes in a heartbeat, but again would he work under Lerner? I'd doubt if any top manager would.

[PeterWithesShin]

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I'm very tempted to say that he's sat at home thinking Villa should Take A Chance On Me.

[Legion]

It could be our Waterloo.

[ez]

I notice Sherwood was sporting the unshaven lost manager look of Paul Lambert last night.

[Risso]

Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?

Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

That's massively skewed by the amount of time he spent at Bolton. Since then he has been sacked twice and not had his contract renewed at West Ham.

OK, well even since Bolton it's 3 jobs in 8 years.  So using your criteria, we shouldn't go for a manager who has ever been sacked or who has had more than 3 jobs in 8 years.

We shouldn't go for Allardyce as I don't like him or the football his teams play, the regular dismissals just emphasis that I am not alone in thinking that. He'll be divisive from day, similar to McLeish, and players like Grealish and Gil would not get a look in.

Regular dismissals?  3 in 8 years, jesus Chris that's stretching things in defence of a ridiculous argument even by your standards.  If you take the time to read some of the posts above, you'll see that the Blackburn dismissal in particular was absolutely crazy, and if I recall correctly was more to do with something dubious about the Venkys and Steve Kean's agent than any footballing philosophy.

[passitsideways]

I say if Sunderland take Allardyce, so be it. If not, we've got him there as a get-out if we go another 4 or 5 without winning and we're forced to sack Sherwood.

The only realistic name out there I'd swap in right now would be Moyes. If we can get him then the decision is made.

I'd take Moyes in a heartbeat, but again would he work under Lerner? I'd doubt if any top manager would.

How many times have we heard a middle of the road manager like Moyes is (who I would happily take, BTW) turn down a team because of ownership, unless they have a reputation for complete and utter mentalism? Offer him enough money and give him enough vague promises, that's all that's required.

[Legion]

I notice Sherwood was sporting the unshaven lost manager look of Paul Lambert last night.

[PeterWithesShin]

IIRC even Ferguson said his dismissal at Blackburn was ridiculous.

[PeterWithesShin]

IIRC even Ferguson said his dismissal at Blackburn was ridiculous.

Found it here thanks to a quick Google http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9284325.stm