Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[Jimbo]

There's hardly a twitch of pain any more, just resignation and depression. Randy (the club) has gambled and gambled and, like all gamblers, eventually he's going to lose.

Sherwood, unproven, was a gamble. He might have been all we could get at the time, after gambling with Lambert, but now he's showing his lack of guile. In a big way. I don't know how many games l'd give him, but this losing / not winning streak can't go on. The odds are stacking against us.

[brontebilly]

Get rid.

I know he's not been here long, but his mistakes are so enormous, i can't see him ever learning from them.

Should never have got the job in the first place.

There is relatively little wrong with the players - the problem is the manager. He's out of his depth.

Agreed 100%

Id prefer if we were decisive about removing managers rather than being seen to be patient.

Delaying the sacking of our managers has cost us wasted seasons imo, all have been dead men walking long before the end.

DOL - remember the last three months of that season
MON - if he had been cut at the end of that season we would have avoided the nonsense of the following summer
Houllier - very clear early on that he was completely unsuited to management, McAllister to be fair did ok for us
McLeish - awful appointment, never had a hope of being a success
Lambert - new contract after a few wins ffs
Timmy - initial enthusiasm got us out of a funk but clear as day he is miles out of his depth

We havent a decent squad right now, miles better players than the likes of Sunderland and Newcastle

A few of us wanted Thomas Tuchel when Lambert was in trouble, look at him now at Dortmund

[ozzjim]

I took the piss in suggesting Allardyce, although 2-3 seasons of being safe by April would not go amiss in fairness.

I just don't get Sherwood this season. Ayew comes on on Tuesday and changes the game completely, Vertout has his best game yet and Lescott is hooked at half time. Any manager would have the first 2 in the side to take forward that confidence and start Clark in the back 4.


The mistakes he seems to make are just glaring each week. Since the 6-0 at Southampton he has almost second guessed everything he has done since on the pitch, while curiously doing very well off the pitch in terms of the players he has got in. We are clearly a right back and a quality striker from being a rounded side, but Gestede is proving that with the service the bugger will score goals.

The biggest problem is the quite bizarre selection and in game management. He needs some kind of tactically astute assistant. Ray is clearly not it!

[silhillvilla]

Get rid now and Fox can keep some respect.
Stick and the inevitable slump continues then it gets harder for fox to curry and favour in the future.
Sack him now .

[Toronto Villa]

I took the piss in suggesting Allardyce, although 2-3 seasons of being safe by April would not go amiss in fairness.

I just don't get Sherwood this season. Ayew comes on on Tuesday and changes the game completely, Vertout has his best game yet and Lescott is hooked at half time. Any manager would have the first 2 in the side to take forward that confidence and start Clark in the back 4.


The mistakes he seems to make are just glaring each week. Since the 6-0 at Southampton he has almost second guessed everything he has done since on the pitch, while curiously doing very well off the pitch in terms of the players he has got in. We are clearly a right back and a quality striker from being a rounded side, but Gestede is proving that with the service the bugger will score goals.

The biggest problem is the quite bizarre selection and in game management. He needs some kind of tactically astute assistant. Ray is clearly not it!

I know stubbornness is probably a trait in all football managers, I suppose they would call it a commitment to ones beliefs. But just those decisions you've pointed out are ludicrous. Ayew was excellent finally, Veretout was very good and Lescott poor and all we thought might play a significant role for the side today. Add to those changes not being made, Gil has disappeared again. If Gabby was fit he'd be in the side and not Gestede. I'm just tired of it, and while I'm not the biggest Allardyce fan I'd take mid table security for the next 2-3 years if offered right now. Watch, he'll end up at Sunderland and they will be just fine.

[Chris Jameson]

I don't know enough about European football to suggest a manager but were there not any better options abroad than an out of work bloke who had managed Spurs for a few matches?

[supertom]

I give him five games to save his job. If we end up getting cut adrift we have to move quickly. Very quickly. We can't hang about getting further and further into the shit. One day the trap door will open under our feet and we'll fall through. Look at Wigan. And look where they are now.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

What a pointless poll 5 minutes after a defeat.

The reading of the thread isn't compulsory; I believe I gave fair warning about what was contained within from the title.

You must be fucking furious. You were furious under MON when we looked OK and finishing 6th. Fuck knows how you haven't topped yourself the last few years.

6 years of shite wears your resolve down eventually.

Surely Belle & Sebastian have a song about that kind of thing to get you through!

[silhillvilla]

I don't know enough about European football to suggest a manager but were there not any better options abroad than an out of work bloke who had managed Spurs for a few matches?

Clearly there were but Fox didn't interview anyone else at all which is shocking

[villan from luton]

I don't know enough about European football to suggest a manager but were there not any better options abroad than an out of work bloke who had managed Spurs for a few matches?

Clearly there were but Fox didn't interview anyone else at all which is shocking

How do you know who was interviewed?

[adrenachrome]

I don't know enough about European football to suggest a manager but were there not any better options abroad than an out of work bloke who had managed Spurs for a few matches?

Clearly there were but Fox didn't interview anyone else at all which is shocking

Not in the context of a club which is up for sale with no buyers.  Once you are in flux, you are in flux.

[Villa in Denmark]

I'm sure Fox came out with something along the lines of "we didn't need to look any further" when he came out with his "highly sought after young manager" spiel.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

After years of shite, should we be looking within for reasons we're so crap?

How many time can you be wrong about a manager before you realise it's not actually the managers fault?

And how much do fans play a part in this? Gary Monk was mentioned on a thread earlier. Imagine him coming to Villa Park and telling players they're going to pass, pass and pass no matter where they are on the pitch. Then imagine the fans shouting abuse at players from a short distance away telling them they're fucking useless and to get it forward. How long would he last?

Not saying it's the fans fault, but just putting different perspectives on things.

[Quiet Lion]

Didn't want him when he was appointed, and most certainly want rid now.

With most managers they have some kind of pedigree. Lambert had done well at Colchester and Norwich, there was at least some empirical evidence he once had a clue. Sherwood has none of that.

When I watch him being interviewed I cringe, he just comes across as thick. His game management helps back up that impression.

[adrenachrome]

After years of shite, should we be looking within for reasons we're so crap?

How many time can you be wrong about a manager before you realise it's not actually the managers fault?

And how much do fans play a part in this? Gary Monk was mentioned on a thread earlier. Imagine him coming to Villa Park and telling players they're going to pass, pass and pass no matter where they are on the pitch. Then imagine the fans shouting abuse at players from a short distance away telling them they're fucking useless and to get it forward. How long would he last?

Not saying it's the fans fault, but just putting different perspectives on things.

From your post, you are saying it is the fans' fault.

I am inclined to put the blame on the owner.