Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[cdbearsfan]

I'd still keep him, for now.

Partly that's because I have no faith that we'd scour the globe looking for a better replacement.

Our managers under Lerner have been: ex-Premier League boss, ex-Premier League boss, recently-relegated from the Premier League boss, Premier League boss and ex-Premier League boss.

There's nothing that suggests we have the intelligence to appoint someone better. We'd get Allardyce or someone of his ilk. At least with Sherwood we all know it could come good. With any of the sacked-five-times managers we'd likely court we'd never have an opportunity to improve, because there is no way they'd improve.

So... Not exactly a ringing endorsement but keep him, for now.

We could really do with winning next week.

[Stu]

Bielsa. If we're going to go mental, lets do it in style.

[Pete]

Give him to xmas.

Why though? Not only could that mean that we're even further in the shit, it will also mean that we're looking for a new manager (and backroom staff, presumably) at a time when we should be looking at strengthening the squad.

That's why I'm thinking six weeks, end of November at the most.

On the plus side, who'd have thought we'd only be four points behind Chelsea going into October?

[KRS]

There will come a time when Fox will look at it and see that the results on the pitch are not relative to the enthusiasm of what the manager believes he can achieve. At the moment he will and should quite rightly look at it objectively taking into consideration the changes in personnel both behind the scenes and on the pitch which had to be made due to years of mismanagement at executive and footballing level.

TS will be given sufficient time to prove his worth or dig his own grave by results on the pitch, however any manager with this many new players should be given time to make it work. There are additional caveats to this such as not being able to pick his strongest team due to injuries, so with a full squad now at his disposal then he will have no excuses if results do not improve within the next 2 months. we also have to make allowances for fixtures against teams where a result is not generally expected, but similarly should be criticised when results are not achieved in games when they are.

Before the season started, anyone with common sense would have agreed to give him until Christmas with this set of new players, however the honeymoon period is over and we need to start seeing more evidence that he actually has a clue rather these ridiculous tactics and substitutions that appear to change from game to game. He needs to find his best team, formation and an indication that he has a degree of managerial acumen.

[wozwebs]

Bearing in mind our only 3 wins this season have been against Bournemouth who were a Championship team before we played them, Notts County of League Two who took us to extra time and Blues,  another Championship side. Probably shows we are where we should be. I think we need to stick with him until at least Christmas. I can see signs of us stringing a couple/few wins together but then again I always felt the same with Lambert and they never materialised. I really thought / hoped that with all these new players it would be a clean slate but turns out it's deja vu yet again.

[LTA]

Bearing in mind our only 3 wins this season have been against Bournemouth who were a Championship team before we played them, Notts County of League Two who took us to extra time and Blues,  another Championship side. Probably shows we are where we should be. I think we need to stick with him until at least Christmas. I can see signs of us stringing a couple/few wins together but then again I always felt the same with Lambert and they never materialised. I really thought / hoped that with all these new players it would be a clean slate but turns out it's deja vu yet again.

Worryingly none of those wins were particularly convincing either.

[silhillvilla]

Sorry I don't buy the new players red herring.
See Southampton last season who lost all their best players and rebuilt over the summer and hit the ground running.

[Iamkmkm]

The new players need time to adapt and gel, it would be foolish to sack him now.

[Villafirst]

I've read some long-winded jargon here; it's a results business, end of. Add the last 4 or 5 games from last season to this season, and it's relegation form. Stupid decisions on the line-up,  I lost faith when he took Gil off for a forward at Leicester - complete stupidity with a 2-0 lead.

[Malandro]

Keep. I'd keep even if we are still near the bottom in March.

A bad start to a season does not mean the manager needs sacking - we'll improve.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Team for Stoke

--------- Guzan ---------

Hutton Richards Clark amavi

--- Gana -------- Sanchez --

Vertout ------------- Grealish
---- Ayew ------- Gestede ---

spot on and how we should have lined up today

[pauliewalnuts]

Get rid.

I know he's not been here long, but his mistakes are so enormous, i can't see him ever learning from them.

Should never have got the job in the first place.

There is relatively little wrong with the players - the problem is the manager. He's out of his depth.

[pauliewalnuts]

Sorry I don't buy the new players red herring.
See Southampton last season who lost all their best players and rebuilt over the summer and hit the ground running.

Yup

[oswald funkletrumpet]

There have been signs in matches under him, including this season (bar a couple of matches), where we've looked like we're more than capable of doing ok.

It's not even October.

Without getting peoples backs up (and I'm aware the next few words will do this), but how many people wanting him to go have watched us play under him (matches, not highlights)?

I think we've played better this season that at this point last season (and the seasons before that), but presume we're on less points (?). I feel more optimistic now than I did this time last season.

10 points in the first four games gave us a cushion last season. Its the opposite now and as things stand I dont see where the next win is coming from

after that run we have played 41 games and got 32 points

[pauliewalnuts]

It isn't just the total failure to deliver, it is the vast, stinking sea of bullshit that he surrounds himself in.

He talks such self-preservational bullshit that he makes the shit results even more unpalatable.

He's a proper bullshit merchant, and he's going to take us down.

I'd prefer it if we were where we were mostly because of the players being clowns, but we're not, we are where we are because the manager hasn't got a fucking clue.