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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5340 on: Today at 04:13:40 PM »
No more hybrids or square pegs / round holes…there are multiple quality players in most positions (bar 9) if one’s injured you look at the next one - you only have to look at Borthwick to say ‘dont try to be clever Steve, its not your thing’

And that is the heart of my problem with him. By all accounts he considers himself to be a tactical thinker and elite level coach and the RFU apparently consider him as one of the best 'minds' in the game but either they're all wrong or something else gets in the way and makes him default to coaching and tactics that are clearly sub-par. As I've said, I think he's just terrified of conceding points and makes every decision based on defensive stability, which means when teams figure you out not only do you have no attack but you're also able to be picked apart and teams score record points totals against you. It's a lot like Steve Bruce, people will claim that it's pragmatic and is setting things up to be better later but that only works if there aren't plenty of other people just as smart as you are but who are more focused on scoring against you than stopping you score. Townsend and Farrell are clearly 2 of those, which is why both of them have regularly beaten Borthwick with squads that are pretty comparable (but with less depth).

The most common word used to describe Borthwick the player was probably "yeoman", and I have seen nothing in his tenure as England head coach to make me use any other word to describe Borthwick the coach. It's just meat and potatoes stuff.

But i wouldn't swap a win vs France for a change of coach. Beating them on their own patch and denying them the 6N would be a hoot.

I would….the only way England get anything positive out of this 6N is if the next time they kick off he isnt the coach.  I think the only jeopardy in the game is which of the French back 3 score the most tries in the game.

He’s like an old school tie committee choice of the 1980’s rather than an elite coach who innovates and evolves with the game….he doesn’t even have a style that reflects the league that his player pool play in.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5341 on: Today at 08:12:43 PM »
Stupid Tory sport, anyway.

I suggest that you don’t ever have a night out in Ebbw Vale or Pontypool :)

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5342 on: Today at 08:18:41 PM »
Stupid Tory sport, anyway.

I suggest that you don’t ever have a night out in Ebbw Vale or Pontypool :)

I knew a Villa fan who was from a Nottinghamshire mining village. He lost his two front teeth early on in his rugby playing career.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5343 on: Today at 08:21:31 PM »
Score at the end flatters Ireland a little and doesn't really reflect the match but that's what happens when you have to throw everything at it.

Yeah, the score massively flattered us. I thought Scotland might nick it at 26-21 and that we would rue the missed conversion.

I saw enough of Ireland in the 80s and 90s to be happy with second and a Triple Crown.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5344 on: Today at 08:46:29 PM »
Decent start from England.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5345 on: Today at 08:53:34 PM »
England have been really good.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5346 on: Today at 08:59:52 PM »
This is probably the most frustrating thing with this England, there's so much quality but we've just not been making the most of it. At the very least this now has to be the end of Ford.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5347 on: Today at 09:05:46 PM »
Good half, spoilt by the last 5 seconds…massive 10 minutes after ht

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5348 on: Today at 09:07:24 PM »
Incredible first half. Free flowing rugby is a beauty to behold.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5349 on: Today at 09:20:25 PM »
Aside from everything else our discipline is awful, which means we're always in trouble. Idiotic from Genge to the same degree as Itoje and Underhill last week.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5350 on: Today at 09:23:18 PM »
Bad errors of late

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5351 on: Today at 09:29:26 PM »
Yellow killed it and you just know genie will come back on and within 10 mins there’ll be another in the bin

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5352 on: Today at 09:31:07 PM »
Great effort by Chessum

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5353 on: Today at 09:31:33 PM »
Dumb not to go under the posts tho surely

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #5354 on: Today at 09:31:33 PM »
21 point swing in 9minutes, all driven by a lack of discipline. But we've had a gift there to keep us in the game.

 


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