International Rugby

[paul_e]

England just look so flat, there's no creativity, no energy and no real desire.

Jones was a twat who overstayed his welcome but Borthwick is just such a dull choice to replace him and he's made us a dull team who are just trying to dominate territory and hope they can push over enough points to be competitive.

[PaulWinch again]

They’re not doing that well though. If you are going to be stodgy you have to be good at it (e.g. no pens, excellent structure etc). They do all that badlyZ

[paul_e]

They’re not doing that well though. If you are going to be stodgy you have to be good at it (e.g. no pens, excellent structure etc). They do all that badlyZ

Exactly, Ireland have been really poor today but are still on top and I suspect will put 15-20 points on us in the 2nd half.

Oh and Youngs is fucking shit (sorry it's been nearly half a game without me saying it and I couldn't hold it any more), everything is slow and predetermined, with absolutely no attempt to play the game in front of him.

[paul_e]

I nearly slagged off Daly in the previous post but by leaving it I can now point out that his positioning for that try made the kick inevitable. When the 10 is taking the ball deep you can try to overload the defence like that, it's just fucking basics.

[PaulWinch again]

South Africa are showing how poor Wales are as well. We’re fucking miles off.

[paul_e]

The problem is we have 4-5 players who just aren't up to it (Stuart, Vunipola, Youngs, Daly and arguably Ford) and mistakes from them is just leading to easy scoring opportunities and/or stifling our play to the point where Ireland are holding us at arms length and waiting for us to present the ball back to them.

[PaulWinch again]

Got to be honest at the moment I’m not seeing any positive improvement under Borthwick. I’ve said it before but he seems to think doing the basics is an identity and it’s not. It’s a non-negotiable that underpins an identity. It’s compounded by the fact that we also do the basics really badly - sloppy, inaccurate, lacking intensity.

[paul_e]

Got to be honest at the moment I’m not seeing any positive improvement under Borthwick. I’ve said it before but he seems to think doing the basics is an identity and it’s not. It’s a non-negotiable that underpins an identity. It’s compounded by the fact that we also do the basics really badly - sloppy, inaccurate, lacking intensity.

I agree, if anything we've gone backwards because at least under Jones we looked like we could score tries from nothing.

[paul_e]

Fuck off Vunipola, moron.

[dave shelley]

Upgraded to red now.

[Brazilian Villain]

Upgraded to red now.

The RTE commentators didn't seem too surprised.

[dave shelley]

Upgraded to red now.

The RTE commentators didn't seem too surprised.

To be honest neither was I and I know feck all about rugby.

[Brazilian Villain]

Upgraded to red now.

The RTE commentators didn't seem too surprised.

To be honest neither was I and I know feck all about rugby.

Same here.

[paul_e]

Well it was only high, no arms and straight up shoulder-to-head (all 3 factors of which could be a straight red).

I really wouldn't be surprised if England go out in the group, this is fucking pathetic.

[PaulWinch again]

Well it’s pretty embarrassing that we’ve had two red cards in two weeks. Borthwick is a bad World Cup from the chop already in my view.