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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2955 on: March 02, 2020, 11:12:02 AM »
I'll be amazed if Italy v England isn't called off. Think the Ireland game could have gone ahead with no away fans.

I do tend to agree re the Italy v England game although on the positive side England isn't a hotbed of cases just yet whereas Italy is which maybe is what drove the Irish decision.

With regard to no away fans, how would you police that? Rugby tickets tend not to be segregated for internationals, there's now way of telling if you're an away fan for certain.
Cue olive skinned, Armani wearing azuri fan rocking up at Landsdowne claiming to be Patrick O'Rourke of Dingle.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2956 on: March 02, 2020, 09:26:34 PM »
Does this mean we might get an extra week of six nations games (ah Italy playing twice might be a struggle).

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2957 on: March 02, 2020, 09:32:26 PM »
More likely the games will be postponed until October and the start of the autumn internationals just as they did during the foot and mouth crisis.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2958 on: March 04, 2020, 06:07:30 PM »
Potential row brewing between England and Saracens over Mako.

Saracens say he may be selected for their game at the weekend as he is not in isolation.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2959 on: March 04, 2020, 07:12:45 PM »
What Sarries really need to be doing, after massive fines and the biggest points deduction I've ever seen, is getting into completely unnecessary aggro with the RFU over international players, I don't see any way it'll end badly for them...

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2960 on: March 04, 2020, 08:03:13 PM »
All sports matches in Italy up until 3rd April, including the Six Nations game against England, to be played behind closed doors.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2961 on: March 04, 2020, 10:27:53 PM »
Oh well, there goes my weekend in Rome.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2962 on: March 04, 2020, 11:28:12 PM »
Will you get your money back? Don't tell me you had booked to go by Flybe, too?

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2963 on: March 05, 2020, 08:21:18 AM »
Ticket money yes I would hope, €100 a ticket times 4.

We booked flights and hotels with BA as a package, if we cancel we’d lose everything as Italy and Rome is not on the banned list with FCO at present and that’s the trigger for insurance companies.  I’ll be calling them today to se if we can change dates. BA are usually absolute sticklers for fare rules though.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2964 on: March 05, 2020, 11:15:30 AM »
Maybe the Foreign Office will move Rome to the banned list to make it easier for England fans to get their money back?

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2965 on: March 05, 2020, 12:35:50 PM »
It's a minefield. Our travel insurance company states that a natural disaster includes an epidemic in or in close proximity to the destination.

Italian authorities nor the WHO have declared it an epidemic yet but if their government are sacking off events surely some common sense will prevail.

BA ever the money grabbing shithouses that they are have offered new booking complete and total flexibility, no charge to change or cancel, longstanding bookings? Jog on.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2966 on: March 05, 2020, 03:37:42 PM »
What Sarries really need to be doing, after massive fines and the biggest points deduction I've ever seen, is getting into completely unnecessary aggro with the RFU over international players, I don't see any way it'll end badly for them...
Exactly right.  The way they've been conducting themselves has been terrible.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2967 on: March 05, 2020, 11:26:51 PM »
I don't know much about rugby but Saracens seem like twats.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2968 on: March 05, 2020, 11:34:31 PM »
I don't know much about rugby but Saracens seem like twats.

Think of all the worst things about Man Utd over the last 30 years with a dash of Abramovich on top and you're about there.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #2969 on: March 06, 2020, 12:02:14 AM »
I generally agree, but you also hear good stuff, they pushed boundaries in player welfare, examples:

1. Each youngster is obligated to complete a degree so they learn how to think/learn (possibly also a salary dodge)
2. Free child care (ditto).
3. Their motto is something like ‘creating memories’  which, via the podcasts I listen to, the players from other clubs are universally in awe of - it amounts to free trips to X, Y, Z where they get pissed. The general premise being they they partied and played harder than anyone else.
4. Jim Hamilton said the work ethic of the younger players - the product of the system - made him retire because they were too focused/good/intelligent.

Ultimately they got it wrong.  They cheated. But they did a lot right and so it would be foolish to chuck the whole saracens experiment out the window as corrupt. 

Add Nigel Wray - assuming he developed this culture - into a football environment where there is no ceiling (bar FFP) and villa could grow immensely in my opinion.

 


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