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nigel
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November 10, 2018, 06:23:35 PM »
Underhill was fantastic.
I was surprised our line out looked poor when Jamie George came on.
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November 10, 2018, 06:50:04 PM »
Yes it’s alright being good in the loose, but if you can’t hit your jumpers then that play in the loose is pointless.
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November 10, 2018, 07:07:54 PM »
The other thing today did was reinvigorate my faith in Jones. I had lost some faith, but if the can hit this level and build on it I believe in their capability as a team again.
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November 10, 2018, 07:09:53 PM »
That's why I think Hartley is still the starter and should be playing 50-60 minutes against the best sides, he's a better thrower anyway but he's also more organised, the maul try was all about his ability to get a maul going. That said I don't think it was entirely George's fault, the first couple of lineouts after he came on should've been penalties for them playing the man in the air but the ref didn't give it and George lost all his confidence.
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Re: International Rugby
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November 10, 2018, 07:21:43 PM »
That TMO cost us the game, disgraceful decision.
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Re: International Rugby
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November 10, 2018, 10:05:50 PM »
French fucking robbed at the finish against the men from Del Monte. They played Fergie Time until South Africa scored a winning try. Booooo!
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Re: International Rugby
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Reply #2481 on:
November 11, 2018, 10:07:31 AM »
Can anyone explain how this is offside?
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PaulWinch again
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Re: International Rugby
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Reply #2482 on:
November 11, 2018, 02:34:47 PM »
I assume I don’t know the rules, because I don’t get it.
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nigel
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Re: International Rugby
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November 11, 2018, 03:32:32 PM »
Jerry Guscott said he was half a yard off.
Brian Moore, if I heard correctly, very close. But he seemed to edge with onside.
For me the ref was perfectly placed and didn't give anything. It looked close, but, I thought the ball was definitely out when Lawes made his move
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Re: International Rugby
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November 11, 2018, 03:45:43 PM »
The ball is out. In fact the ball is off the ground in the scrum half’s hands.
Lawes feet are behind the hindmost player in the ruck.
On the ref link yesterday it sounded like Garces gives the try but is told by Jonker the TMO to review it. It was noisy, but that’s how it sounded.
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paul_e
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Re: International Rugby
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November 11, 2018, 08:30:08 PM »
Anyway...
Moon is a far better option than Hepburn, Mako starting Moon on the bench for me.
Hartley starting is still the right choice, George is a great option from bench.
Sinckler was excellent but Williams looked out of his depth.
Itoje, Lawes, Launchbury and Kruis is the best set of 2nd row option in the world, really happy with all 4.
I'm not entirely convinced by Shields but he's got time to adapt still.
Underhill is excellent for games where the opposition want to generate quick ball to the backs, Barrett was terrified of him.
Wilson was solid but he looked like a 6 playing out of position yesterday, Billy V, Hughes and Simmonds are a class above him, I'd consider him over Shields long term though.
Youngs and Care frustrate the shit out of me, they do some good things but they seem to take it in turns to do stupid shit, every game at least one of them makes 2-3 dumb decisions. Robson deserves a chance.
Farrell was excellent but needs to work on his game management for me, there were a couple of times where he kicked when we'd have been better taking a couple of minutes keeping it in the forwards to slow the game up a bit, he needs to recognise that.
Centres are a mess, Slade has a lot of quality but he doesn't work outside T'eo, we probably need to give Manu another go at 12 (despite my reservations about his all round game) and Daly may still be a better option at 13, if Watson comes back and takes the 15 shirt. I'd love Mallinder to get a proper run at 12 and come through as the player he could be in there, he's got everything we're looking for but has spent too much time as a utility back.
back 3 were good, May has become a world class winger, Ashton is a great finisher but is still limited in the rest of his game, Nowell was good when he came on, Daly needs to improve under the high ball to stay at 15 but he was very good in all other aspects, With Watson and Cokanasiga in the mix I think we've got fantastic options there.
To sum up, fix the centres and we'll be exactly where I'd want going into a world cup year.
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Re: International Rugby
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November 17, 2018, 03:35:21 PM »
Thus far this is terrible.
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Re: International Rugby
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November 17, 2018, 05:01:30 PM »
At least they managed to redeem themselves in the second half.
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Re: International Rugby
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November 17, 2018, 09:03:36 PM »
Wow! Very proud to be Irish today, thought we'd lose by 10-15 points after their scare against England. Immense performance.
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luke:lamf
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November 17, 2018, 09:16:42 PM »
I have no links to Ireland, but that was an astonishing match and fair play to them.
On a side note, will any international ref ever show the balls to call New Zealand for forward passes ? To my eyes they had at least 3-4 which looked very dodgy, but then he went and pinged one for Ireland which looked backwards, much less flat...
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