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PaulWinch again
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Re: International Rugby
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England really need a statement performance today.
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June 09, 2018, 04:19:22 PM »
Great start.
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PaulWinch again
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June 09, 2018, 04:29:08 PM »
The penny seems to have dropped with Jones that England were at their best under him when they attacked and tried to play expansively. We’re slaughtering the Boks at the moment.
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June 09, 2018, 04:35:35 PM »
South Africa’s defence is awful. They’ve got no answer to the pace of May, Brown and Daly.
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June 09, 2018, 04:42:59 PM »
Unfortunately our defence is probably worse
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PaulWinch again
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June 09, 2018, 04:43:47 PM »
Two rubbish errors from Itoje and Daly have let them back in the game.
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June 09, 2018, 04:45:16 PM »
Oh dear talk about undoing all the good work.
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June 09, 2018, 04:48:02 PM »
After a great start, all composure and disciplin has completely gone. Only one side gonna win this and its not us
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June 09, 2018, 04:50:45 PM »
Well, that was a half of two halves
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PaulWinch again
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June 09, 2018, 04:54:07 PM »
Indeed. England’s game management has gone. This is a legacy of poor performances eventually turning into defeats over the last 12 months. They look like a team who don’t know how to win, whereas 18 months ago they looked like a team who didn’t know how to lose.
Players need to take some individual responsibility they’re defending very poorly.
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June 09, 2018, 05:39:44 PM »
Simply not good enough. Atrocious defence, non existant discipline or composure, lack of leadership and character. 3-0 series defeat all but assured.
Jones and Gustard have to go. Fucking charlatans.
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June 09, 2018, 05:46:24 PM »
Gustard is going.
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June 09, 2018, 05:55:56 PM »
England lost this primarily through poor game management. After we’d blizted them we should have consolidated as soon as they scored the first try. That should have been the point when we realised we needed to nip any momentum shift in the bud. Then we put the subs on far too late, the players were out on their feet.
Eddie Jones needs to turn this round because that’s what 5 losses on the bounce now and we’re conceding an awful lot of points. At 24-3 up you shouldn’t be losing the game.
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June 09, 2018, 05:58:35 PM »
The one positive is that at least they’re showing they understand they need to score tries again, that had drifted recently.
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June 09, 2018, 09:53:53 PM »
I've been out most of the day so not had chance to post but, for me, the acid test of Jones now is whether he is willing to make the hard call and drop Brown and Robshaw who looked past it today and have both had poor seasons. If he's willing to start Cips and Robson then even better.
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