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Offline Jon Crofts

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #390 on: October 06, 2015, 08:27:02 PM »
The Hartley decision may have been forced on him, old farts in suits and ties at the RFU blocking his inclusion following his ban, you never know.  One that is inexcusable is the omission of Europes best no 10.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #391 on: October 06, 2015, 09:02:42 PM »
Speaking of the front row, what happened to Andrew Sheridan?

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #392 on: October 06, 2015, 09:44:36 PM »
Speaking of the front row, what happened to Andrew Sheridan?

Retired because of a really nasty neck injury.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #393 on: October 06, 2015, 10:37:50 PM »
Speaking of the front row, what happened to Andrew Sheridan?

Retired because of a really nasty neck injury.

That's a shame.  Anyway, your list of front rowers who can't scrummage - surely that can be coached into them?  Look at Australia with Ledesma and what he's [at least been credited with] doing to their scrum.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #394 on: October 06, 2015, 10:45:18 PM »
Speaking of the front row, what happened to Andrew Sheridan?

Retired because of a really nasty neck injury.

He's now studying wine in France, so no need to be too concerned about his wellbeing.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #395 on: October 07, 2015, 12:10:21 AM »
Speaking of the front row, what happened to Andrew Sheridan?

Retired because of a really nasty neck injury.

That's a shame.  Anyway, your list of front rowers who can't scrummage - surely that can be coached into them?  Look at Australia with Ledesma and what he's [at least been credited with] doing to their scrum.

Should be possible, but the front row is a delicate thing, you need to grow a unit of 6-8 front row players who all work well together, I'd start that by getting a hooker who can hook and throw and a 2 props who can scrum straight and low and aren't easily pushed back.

I'd genuinely be looking at taking the entire Saints front row next 6N, Waller, Hartley and Brookes, add Cole, Youngs and Mako and you've got your basic set for matchday.  Hartley probably won't make it to the next world cup so I'd have Cowan-Dickie around to work with and mould into the long-term solution.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #396 on: October 07, 2015, 10:22:06 AM »
Shame that Canadia couldn't hang on yesterday. I was quite impressed with them (especially that winger wearing 14) up until they changed their scrum half.

The guy they brought on was rubbish

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #397 on: October 07, 2015, 02:31:47 PM »
Little stories coming out of the England camp about disharmony are never encouraging.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #398 on: October 07, 2015, 09:58:51 PM »
The latest is that Cipriani and Catt had a bust up after Cipriani found out he wasn't in the final squad.
Other players threatened a revolt.

All rumours at the moment and as you say not very encouraging.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #399 on: October 07, 2015, 10:51:10 PM »
I think the revolt was more about Burrell being dropped for Burgess.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #400 on: October 08, 2015, 08:13:44 AM »
I reckon Burgess might well become an excellent 6 if he stays in Union.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #401 on: October 08, 2015, 08:27:47 AM »
Namibia could have beat Georgia if they'd managed to keep 15 (or even just 14) players on the pitch

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #402 on: October 08, 2015, 08:30:09 AM »
Its my one and only game this weekend Nippon v American Colonies at Kingsholm

Fickle fan that I am, if Samoa beat Scotland I'll be hoping Japan win and therefore qualify (they deserve to after defeating SA). If Scotland win and there's therefore nothing on the Gloucester game, I'll root for the Colonies

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #403 on: October 08, 2015, 08:31:42 AM »
I reckon Burgess might well become an excellent 6 if he stays in Union.

The problem with a league convert going into the forwards is that they have to learn how to deal with the breakdown very quickly.  Given that is England's weakness I'd want to see him single-handedly demolishing teams before i gave him a shot there at international level.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2015
« Reply #404 on: October 08, 2015, 08:57:16 AM »
I reckon Burgess might well become an excellent 6 if he stays in Union.

The problem with a league convert going into the forwards is that they have to learn how to deal with the breakdown very quickly.  Given that is England's weakness I'd want to see him single-handedly demolishing teams before i gave him a shot there at international level.

Oh I wouldn't be rushing him in, I'd give him a whole year playing 6 for Bath to learn the game before he gets back near the England squad. Then he'd have another three years development under his belt after that before the next World Cup.

 


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