Tiago Ilori (update 2017 - signs for Reading)

[Jimbo]

We're the least effective football team in all four divisions on a points per game basis. It really can't get any simpler than that.

[saunders_heroes]

We're the least effective football team in all four divisions on a points per game basis. It really can't get any simpler than that.

That's it in a nutshell. Some people are convinced we're not as bad as we clearly are.

[Villa in Denmark]

Have we entered the twilight zone where Villa haven't been complete shite and Ilori who has played 0 minutes and cost us over a million wasn't a waste of time and money?

Apparently he's just a loan deal that didn't work out. Nothing to see here, and nothing to complain about either. After all a million or so quid is loose change in our deep pockets.

The actual phrase was in the context of football finances.

Haven't you got enough things to stick your head in the oven about without inventing shit.

And yes he was a loan deal.
No he didn't work out.

It happens. 

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm being perfectly clear too. There is no relevance comparing our situation to any of the clubs outside of the league we play in because the circumstances are completely different between the leagues. For example when we have played teams in divisions lower than us we beat both of them despite in the league we are playing we are shit. How would that translate if we were able to play teams lower down? Would we maintain the same points per game or would it go up relative to the 91 clubs? Like I said, and again I am making this as clear as possible the only table worth anything at all is the one we play in, and the situation is clear as day.

The table shows performance of all clubs against their peers, it ranks them on points per game.

It isn't purporting to show that we would struggle to beat Aldershot or Small Heath, I'd have thought that would be glaringly obvious from a quick glance.

To deduce from that that it is irrelevant or meaningless is totally wrong.

FWIW, I can think of lots of other statistics or tables which aren't the current PL table which also matter - like the array of utterly abysmal ones we've collected the last few years, for example, which we all thought were a pretty big problem at the time.

[pauliewalnuts]

We're the least effective football team in all four divisions on a points per game basis. It really can't get any simpler than that.

Thank you.

That's precisely what I was trying to say.

No, it's not the Premier League table, either, but even that comes into it, as the fact we are the least statistically effective team in all four divisions means we are also the least effective in our division, and that is precisely why we are going to be relegated.

[dave.woodhall]

We're the least effective football team in all four divisions on a points per game basis. It really can't get any simpler than that.

That's it in a nutshell. Some people are convinced we're not as bad as we clearly are.

Perhaps you can point out where that's being said.

[Villa in Denmark]

We're the least effective football team in all four divisions on a points per game basis. It really can't get any simpler than that.

That's it in a nutshell. Some people are convinced we're not as bad as we clearly are.

The evidence is there for all to see. I don't see anyone denying it.

What some people get a bit fed up with is either a.) Aren't I f¤¤king clever for saying it was shit about 500 years before football had been invented or b.) finding examples of stuff that under normal circumstances no one would give a shit about then blowing them up out of all proportion. c.) both of the above in one hit. d.) and this one's personal I'll admit - not answering a perfectly simple question when challenged on an assertion you've made.  I think you called it pathetic without realising the irony.

[saunders_heroes]

Good job there isn't a league table of clubs who break their shittiest records else we'd be rock bottom of that one as well.

[Villa in Denmark]

Good job there isn't a league table of clubs who break their shittiest records else we'd be rock bottom of that one as well.

Sorry, you're wrong.

We'd be top of that one by a country mile.  No one else can have claimed as many records as us lately.

You're so eager to paint everything black, you have to write "bottom" or "negative" even when it's not what you mean.

[sickbeggar]

We're really bad. Not sure it matters how bad we are, but y'know until May there's not much else to talk about

[supertom]

If there was a league table of average IQ, then our squad would be rock bottom...of the whole fucking world probably. And that takes into account a team where the players didn't show up so the manager put 11 potatoes out on the pitch. Still brainier than our bunch of feck brained eedjits.
To be fair though, Gabby brings the average right down. But there's a few others in the squad who aren't the brightest sparks. To be honest there were times against Norwich our lot looked like 11 toddlers high on sugar. They were running around aimlessly in circles all over the bloody place. Remi looked like a beleaguered Nursery assistant on his first day. 

[KevinGage]

If there was a league table of average IQ, then our squad would be rock bottom...of the whole fucking world probably. And that takes into account a team where the players didn't show up so the manager put 11 potatoes out on the pitch. Still brainier than our bunch of feck brained eedjits.

We can't compete with the potatoes and cabbages of this world.

[Sexual Ealing]

If there was a league table of average IQ, then our squad would be rock bottom...of the whole fucking world probably. And that takes into account a team where the players didn't show up so the manager put 11 potatoes out on the pitch. Still brainier than our bunch of feck brained eedjits.

We can't compete with the potatoes and cabbages of this world.

*Applause*

[ozzjim]

Fickle bastards.

In fairness we don't know if there was a break clause to allow Ilori to go back without the full payment. It is little different to Jenas costing us 3m in wages for a year while injured. If we have to swallow the money to get the squad place for someone actually fit, so be it. Had he ever been fit it might have been different.

And the debate above seems futile. Jimbo has made it very clear. We are woeful, there is no debate in that surely. I would love to see every team given an IQ test to see where they ranked. I reckon we would be bottom, but close with Sunderland.

[mr underhill]

maybe we should change our identity to Aston Bungalow. After all we only have one level.