Gabby - keep or let go

[conman]

Anyway. I think we should let Agbonlahor go.

let him go , keep him or want him to go ,,, he will stay
just like zigic did at blues on 50 or 60 grand a week for 2 or3 years after they were relegated

[Chris Jameson]

On reflection, keep him. It's a double bluff if he's reading. Or he's paying somebody to read it to him, if that's the case don't tell him it's a double bluff.

[old man villa fan]

Can we not just leave him in Sunderland? By the time he finds his way home his contract will have run out.

It's not that easy.  You've heard of the 'bad penny', haven't you.

[ChicagoLion]

Can we not just leave him in Sunderland? By the time he finds his way home his contract will have run out.

It's not that easy.  You've heard of the 'bad penny', haven't you.

Yes it is his transfer value.

[SoccerHQ]

I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.

Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.

Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.

[curiousorange]

I think it may just be best to agree that it's been quite a while since we had a goalkeeper you would actively choose to play for Aston Villa.

As for thread topic, sounds like he's going nowhere. Literally and figuratively.

[LTA]

He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now.  He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.

[saunders_heroes]

I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.

Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.

Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.

Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it. All keepers make good saves but it's that extra one percent that separates the best from the bog standard and sadly Guzan doesn't possess it. As back up keeper he was fine, but first choice, never. We've been signing second best for over 5 years now and it's finally caught up with us. Let's hope for a miracle.

[Clampy]

I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.

Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.

Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.

Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.

Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.

[supertom]

He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now.  He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.

I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.

[Clampy]

He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now.  He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.

I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.

He was great in those first two seasons and deserved to keep Given out. He couldn't complain too much if he lost his place now though.

[supertom]

He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now.  He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.

I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.

He was great in those first two seasons and deserved to keep Given out. He couldn't complain too much if he lost his place now though.

Certainly not. I think he's in an irreversible decline now. Pack him off back to the MLS, for his own sake as much as ours.

[rob_bridge]

He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now.  He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.

I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.

This for me -him and Benteke kept us up the 2 seasons under Lambert.

[saunders_heroes]

I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.

Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.

Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.

Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.

Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.

Yeah that about right. I'm not surprised you don't get it because let's face it you've been telling people to calm down now for 5 years while the club has been spiralling into a humiliating decline.

[Clampy]

I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.

Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.

Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.

Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.

Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.

Yeah that about right. I'm not surprised you don't get it because let's face it you've been telling people to calm down now for 5 years while the club has been spiralling into a humiliating decline.

Just because I don't feel the need to come on here every day and whinge doesn't mean I don't think the club is in a mess.