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Online Clampy

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #420 on: August 23, 2015, 09:49:41 AM »
I said to a mate of the way down yesterday, I can't see him being a 20 goal a season striker here. I reckon he might weigh in with about 8 or 9. He did ok though overall.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #421 on: August 23, 2015, 09:50:31 AM »
I'm a bit concerned that when he's on the pitch we just hoof it. That's not going to work and he really needs to improve his general play.

I thought his general touch was okay yesterday, more surprised how many headers he lost.  His problem was lack of involvement seemingly unable to make short/sharp moves to provide an outlet for the midfielders.
We need players to get closer to him. Jack was predominently drifting to the left to get into the game. Gabby is a headless chicken, and none of the other midfielders are attack minded in the slightest. I also thought the service to Gestede was incredibly poor.
In all honesty too, Palace have a pretty robust backline. One of the sides that someone like Gestede won't easily bully. Today would probably have been a more suitable game to go with the three quick men up top routine that Sherwood started with in the previous games. He's kind of got it the wrong way round in all honesty.

Ultimately though I see Gestede as an impact player. He'll be good off the bench or in certain games where you know he can bully defences.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #422 on: August 23, 2015, 09:50:44 AM »
oops - quote fail.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #423 on: August 24, 2015, 02:37:37 PM »
I said to a mate of the way down yesterday, I can't see him being a 20 goal a season striker here. I reckon he might weigh in with about 8 or 9. He did ok though overall.

No I don't think he's a 20 goal a season striker in the top flight.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #424 on: August 24, 2015, 09:56:51 PM »
I think he's a good signing but up top all season long? I doubt he has the mobility or pace. And when you've got grealish, Gil and Adama you need someone who can run in behind and open the game up, give them a through ball to play or an option for a one-two with a deft touch

None of our options can do that unless gabby miraculously recovers his form of yesteryear or Ayew proves to be a lot less erratic than his reputation or what we've seen so far.

We need a striker even if it's on loan. I can't really see the blend of players at the moment that will work.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #425 on: August 24, 2015, 10:13:29 PM »
How many 20 goal as season strikers are there these days? Double figures seems to be good in the modern game. Gone are the days of Fowler, Shearer, Cole, Ferdinand, etc.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #426 on: August 25, 2015, 06:36:46 AM »
I don't think there are many 20 a season strikers. It's more the type I'm concerned with. Someone of the sort I describe above who will get 10-15 would be fine by me.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #427 on: August 25, 2015, 06:54:45 AM »
Also, I watched the vid of gestede goals in the championship last season. Tons and tons of headers which is great. But how many crisply scored finishers with the feet where it's played though to him or pulled back? I think it was two. And surely that's the sort of assist that Adama, grealish and Gil will be looking for more than anything else? If you look at the og from Saturday he was completely on his heels

Not a criticism of him. He's not that kind of player. But I think we need that kind of player and unless Ayew is better than most of the reports on him I think we need to bring someone in.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #428 on: August 25, 2015, 07:22:26 AM »
Ayew from his highlights strikes me much more of that type, but also that Ayew seems to have decent vision and is not selfish in the box. If we player him at the pinnacle and got runners being him in the box I think we would score goals. I also stool believe that the easier answer is to play Sinclair at the top. Finishes well, always in there for chances and generally works hard. I think he if will suited to play there.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #429 on: August 25, 2015, 07:30:42 AM »
I think Ayew is that type. But most reports are that he consistent gives the ball away with erratic touches and isn't great in the air.  I think I read that he gave the ball away with a bad touch more than almost any player in Europe or  something like that. So as a loan striker in the premier league that would be a big concern. I agree we need to see what works though. He does seem to have talent. Him and gestede together could work but it does inhibit your options in midfield.

I do still get the sense that Tim would ideally be playing 442. I hope not though.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #430 on: August 25, 2015, 08:18:18 AM »
Ayew needs to be played centrally imo; Remy coming in to supplement what we have would be brilliant

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #431 on: August 25, 2015, 08:40:28 AM »
The trouble Gestede has, is that with the knock downs and flick ons he does win, there is nobody (i.e. Gabby) anticipating and moving onto them.

Its also clear that he is at his best attacking the ball in the box, rather than being some lampost to boot it into with his back to goal.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #432 on: August 25, 2015, 03:10:02 PM »
Probably been said ad infinitum but we need to get our midfielders scoring and at least one of them in double figures. I would like to think that we now have a manager that will encourage the midfield 3/4 to be a tad more adventurous and risk a nose bleed by getting into the penalty area. Also it would be good if any player had the confidence to have a pop at goal from 25 yards plus, we do seem to be very shot shy especially at Villa Park.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #433 on: August 25, 2015, 05:18:29 PM »
Gestede will be an option. We hope Ayew will improve once he gets upto speed but I think the club know they have to try and get someone in who will give us more punch, especially if they are intent on shifting Libor.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #434 on: August 25, 2015, 05:59:31 PM »
Ayew from his highlights strikes me much more of that type, but also that Ayew seems to have decent vision and is not selfish in the box. If we player him at the pinnacle and got runners being him in the box I think we would score goals. I also stool believe that the easier answer is to play Sinclair at the top. Finishes well, always in there for chances and generally works hard. I think he if will suited to play there.

Sorry, but that's a shit argument :)

 


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