Jordan Ayew - sold to Swansea

[old man villa fan]

What do I win?

Stating the blindingly obvious probably gets you 5 yards there.

[Legion]

YAY! E-Bay awaits.

[PeterWithesShin]

What do I win?

A signed Jordan Ayew jock strap

Collect it from eastie, he has loads of them.

[Legion]

What do I win?

Stating the blindingly obvious probably gets you 5 yards there.

Five yards of ale? Thank you, Sir!

[old man villa fan]

What do I win?

Stating the blindingly obvious probably gets you 5 yards there.

Five yards of ale? Thank you, Sir!

Still 3 yards off.

[Legion]

What do I win?

Stating the blindingly obvious probably gets you 5 yards there.

Five yards of ale? Thank you, Sir!

Still 3 yards off.

Two will do for me. Result!

[pauliewalnuts]

It's an opinion, in the same way Ive said I think Richards and Amavi look great signings. Think I've said the same about Gueye.

But it's the way you phrase it that makes people laugh/pisses people off (delete as appropriate)

You said "he looks like a poor signing" which, regardless of how many caveats you apply afterwards about should be given time etc. comes across as unremittingly negative and dismissive.

If you'd said something along the lines of
"He hasn't shown too much from what I've seen but it's still early days so hopefully he'll come good", it's expressing pretty much the same sentiment, but without the overriding sense of "we're all doomed" you frequently convey and avoiding the apparent disconnect between your two statements.

Totally agree. 2 games in is nothing. He needs to build an understanding with the others. A lack of a proper pre - season is the biggest factor. Steve Froggatt rates him and believes there is a lot more to come. I would take an ex pros opinion far more than any others.

It isn't just the only two games at the club thing, either. Some of these players have never played outside France, either. It won't happen overnight, for lots of reasons.

[old man villa fan]

What do I win?

Stating the blindingly obvious probably gets you 5 yards there.

Five yards of ale? Thank you, Sir!

Still 3 yards off.

Two will do for me. Result!

So you are accepting less.  Backing off, result!

[Legion]

Either will do for me.

[Dave]

I would have thought my first sentence following on previous posts by others was a clue to my meaning 'after two games' and my references to the club was meant to say they have watched him more than this, talked to him and others and seen something in him to warrant buying him.

That's fine, but that's still no different to them watching, talking to and seeing something in Tonev and Harewood to warrant buying them. Just because they are doing it doesn't make it right, just like it didn't when we bought failures before.

That doesn't mean that Ayew is going to be a failure, and it would be ridiculous to judge him as such after two matches - but nor are other peoples opinions rendered irrelevant just because they're not professional scouts or football managers.

[Chris Jameson]

I would take an ex pros opinion far more than any others.

Really?

I think the majority of ex pros are prone to cliche and having an agenda based on loyalty to former clubs, team mates or managers. I find most of them have a surprising lack of knowledge of the game on the whole.

Savage is the worst of the lot with his gushing praise and man love for Mark Hughes. In staggered that Danny Mills is still used by 5 Live, isn't he supposed to be saving english football with Greg Dyke?

[Phil from the upper holte]

Far too early to write him off. We've played 2 Games!

[Mister E]

Internet and Hyperbole: a marriage made in heaven.
2 games ...

[PeterWithesShin]

Has anyone said it's only been 2 games? We need to give him a chance!

[old man villa fan]

I would have thought my first sentence following on previous posts by others was a clue to my meaning 'after two games' and my references to the club was meant to say they have watched him more than this, talked to him and others and seen something in him to warrant buying him.

That's fine, but that's still no different to them watching, talking to and seeing something in Tonev and Harewood to warrant buying them. Just because they are doing it doesn't make it right, just like it didn't when we bought failures before.

That doesn't mean that Ayew is going to be a failure, and it would be ridiculous to judge him as such after two matches - but nor are other peoples opinions rendered irrelevant just because they're not professional scouts or football managers.

Every transfer is a gamble.  Even the best players can fail if they do not fit in.

As they say, opinions are like a********, everybody has one.  Go back and read my original post and the 2nd sentence "I think I will go with ..."