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Offline themossman

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1020 on: August 02, 2016, 05:58:39 PM »
I still don't understand how you pay £9m for a player and put a release clause in his contract that allows him to leave for less.

i.e. Play shit and we'll let you leave on the cheap.

I think it's linked to relegation. I only know that because I made the same point the other day and this got flagged.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1021 on: August 02, 2016, 06:07:32 PM »
Can recall about one decent game from him, Sunderland at home. At a time when they were even worse than us, if such a thing is believable.

So if Evernot think they're getting a Kante-type deal, good luck to them.

He didn't stand out in a poor side, as other good players have still been able to do over the years.  In fact, amongst an abysmal, work-shy set of charlatans, he looked right at home.

Idrissa?   Go, aye.

Offline nigel

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1022 on: August 02, 2016, 06:23:35 PM »
I still don't understand how you pay £9m for a player and put a release clause in his contract that allows him to leave for less.

i.e. Play shit and we'll let you leave on the cheap.

Wasn't it 9m Euros?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1023 on: August 02, 2016, 06:34:23 PM »
I still don't understand how you pay £9m for a player and put a release clause in his contract that allows him to leave for less.

i.e. Play shit and we'll let you leave on the cheap.

In the same way a player signs a contract that has a clause that sees half his weekly wage vanish if we're relegated.

Why would you expect a player to sign with that clause that protects the club and he loses money and not expect a player to do the same?

Offline CJ

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1024 on: August 02, 2016, 06:42:23 PM »
I still don't understand how you pay £9m for a player and put a release clause in his contract that allows him to leave for less.

i.e. Play shit and we'll let you leave on the cheap.

Wasn't it 9m Euros?

Think you're right - according to Transfermarkt the fee was £7.65m - or approximately €9m give or take an exchange rate point or two

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1025 on: August 02, 2016, 07:02:11 PM »
oh well a 500k  loss for a few tackles a goal and some sideways passing isn't too bad by our standards

Online Flamingo Lane

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1026 on: August 02, 2016, 07:08:32 PM »
That's excellent business for us, though what it says for the state of English football is another matter.  Another one gone, anyway - not one player from the squad of last season would I wish to be kept for a minute more than is needed to get rid.  Not a single one.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1027 on: August 02, 2016, 07:10:29 PM »
He's not good enough for Everton, I can't see why they'd want him to be honest.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1028 on: August 02, 2016, 07:23:57 PM »
Whoever takes him off the wage bill is welcome to him. The interest in him smacks of Reilly style moneyball stat buying

*muffled screams into cushion*

To be fair this signing could be the defintion of Moneyball. If they have concluded that running around a lot and generally being ineffective is a more valuable stat than scoring goals or assists for example.

Apart from that would be based on sabermetrics and not the Moneyball system.

Er, no.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1029 on: August 02, 2016, 07:33:17 PM »
couldn't we have chucked lescott into the deal and asked for say £6million and a coffee maker??? no???

Offline supertom

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1030 on: August 02, 2016, 07:36:10 PM »
He's pretty mediocre as a player and I think he'll last a season at Everton. That said, he was the best CM we had at the club. So we really need to replace him quickly or pray that Tish develops quickly.

Offline Ads

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1031 on: August 02, 2016, 07:39:52 PM »
The sort of player that in five years time we will have forgotten that he played for us. Beyond vanilla; could score, couldn't create, couldn't track and cover space. Could do a bit of blocking.

Erm, cheers Idrissa, cheers.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1032 on: August 02, 2016, 07:41:13 PM »
oh well a 500k  loss for a few tackles a goal and some sideways passing isn't too bad by our standards

Can't remember him scoring for us?

Offline brian green

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1033 on: August 02, 2016, 07:48:37 PM »
So farewell then Idrissa Gueye
You had two names
Gana was the other
But you only had one number.


Eric J Thribb 17 1/2

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now gone
« Reply #1034 on: August 02, 2016, 07:52:50 PM »
Whoever takes him off the wage bill is welcome to him. The interest in him smacks of Reilly style moneyball stat buying

*muffled screams into cushion*

To be fair this signing could be the defintion of Moneyball. If they have concluded that running around a lot and generally being ineffective is a more valuable stat than scoring goals or assists for example.

Apart from that would be based on sabermetrics and not the Moneyball system.

Er, no.

Afraid so. Any use of stats is sabermetrics. Moneyball is actually obtaining massively undervalued players that excel in the stats you covet. Sabermetrics is always a part of a Moneyball signing, Moneyball isn't always part of a sabermetrics signing.

 


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