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Author Topic: Idrissa Gueye - now gone  (Read 163143 times)

Online TheMalandro

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #765 on: May 25, 2016, 08:19:22 AM »
Unless the release clause only kicks in with relegation.

Think that's the important bit probably.

I can't say I'll lose any sleep when he goes.  He was average last season and I think he gave up in a lot of games.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #766 on: May 25, 2016, 08:26:28 AM »
Hopefully if someone meets the release fee, someone else will bid more to get a bidding war started.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #767 on: May 25, 2016, 08:46:41 AM »
I won't lose any sleep over any of them going tbh, including Gana.

The only frustration will be never having seen what Traore could've done.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #768 on: May 25, 2016, 08:56:04 AM »
I like Gana. The release clause seems unlikely. Why would you sign a player and have a release clause that meant he would go for less than you paid? So even if he'd been the next Patrick Vieira we would've made a loss on him... I don't think even we would be that stupid. Unless the release clause only kicks in with relegation.

It might be a relegation release clause.  If we were still in the Prem, his release clause might have been double that.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #769 on: May 25, 2016, 09:08:09 AM »
He didnt exactly set the world alight.

Offline Dave

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #770 on: May 25, 2016, 09:10:47 AM »
I like Gana. The release clause seems unlikely. Why would you sign a player and have a release clause that meant he would go for less than you paid? So even if he'd been the next Patrick Vieira we would've made a loss on him... I don't think even we would be that stupid. Unless the release clause only kicks in with relegation.

It might be a relegation release clause.  If we were still in the Prem, his release clause might have been double that.

Or more likely, non-existant.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #771 on: May 25, 2016, 09:34:40 AM »
I think when players with a decent reputation come to a side that had scraped survival for the last 4 years their agents will insist on relegation release clauses. The one i hope is not stupidly low is Amavi.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #772 on: May 25, 2016, 12:11:32 PM »
7m isn't too bad considering we signed him for about 9m.

Don't forget some of these players have played significant parts in one of the worst performing top division teams for a pretty long time, I don't think  that really increases value.

5m for Clark, 7m for Gana and Ayew I think will go for 8m so that's 20m.

If the Dr gives 20m then that's 40m budget for championship.

Something would be seriously wrong if we can't challenge for top 2 with that budget.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #773 on: May 25, 2016, 12:14:13 PM »
£7.1m? SELL SELL SELL

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #774 on: May 25, 2016, 12:57:48 PM »


He's one of the last of this rabble i'd be in any rush to kick out the door. I think we have far more pressing concerns with regards players we need to shift

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #775 on: May 25, 2016, 01:01:48 PM »
He does good bits, but he's work off the ball is awful.

I would get rid of both him and Sanchez, neither of whom are adequate to play the defensively role properly.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #776 on: May 25, 2016, 01:02:54 PM »
Leave Sanchez alone please. He has easily the best hair at the club and must be retained whatever the cost.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #777 on: May 25, 2016, 01:23:37 PM »
How do these clauses work?  Presumably there is a trigger than if we're relegated the players' wages drops and a corresponding release clause becomes available.  If we did not trigger the wage drop, would the player's value be dictated by market forces?

I think it is bonkers that the values are below what we bought them for, as we would always be able to sell them for less.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #778 on: May 25, 2016, 01:31:16 PM »
How do these clauses work?  Presumably there is a trigger than if we're relegated the players' wages drops and a corresponding release clause becomes available.  If we did not trigger the wage drop, would the player's value be dictated by market forces?

The bit at the top is correct.

On the second part, it's not really a case of not triggering the wage drop, it just happens - it's a part of the contract that both parties agreed to.

If the club wanted to offer a new contract with the original, higher wages and a different release clause then there's nothing to stop them. The player will either sign it or not, depending on what he feels will benefit him more.

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Re: Idrissa Gueye - now signed
« Reply #779 on: May 25, 2016, 01:45:50 PM »
Hopefully if someone meets the release fee, someone else will bid more to get a bidding war started.
Won't happen. Both clubs would meet the release fee and no more. The bidding war becomes how much gold either can shove down the player's and agent's throats.

 


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