Quote from: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 24, 2021, 11:06:38 PMImo Garde was set up to fail, thanks to the sh-ts in the dressing room and the sh-ts in charge of the club at the time. The lack of support he had as a manager was epitomised by the January transfer window. He may have turned out to be a good or bad manager, who knows, but he was badly let down by the decision makers and so-called pro footballers who disgraced AVFC.Totally agree. I honestly think if he'd have walked at the end of January then more would have sympathised with him.He was lied to from the moment he walked through the door
Imo Garde was set up to fail, thanks to the sh-ts in the dressing room and the sh-ts in charge of the club at the time. The lack of support he had as a manager was epitomised by the January transfer window. He may have turned out to be a good or bad manager, who knows, but he was badly let down by the decision makers and so-called pro footballers who disgraced AVFC.
Garde was the sort of appointment this club was crying out for since about 2002. However, he arrived with us on 4 points after ten games with a toxic squad, disinterested owner and in a period of decline. I wonder how it would have worked out if Sherwood had been sacked that summer and Garde appointed then?
I despised that Villa side.Guzan, Lescott, Richards, Agbonlahor, the big clown keeper who was shit and hung around for years (I can't remember his name), grinning Bacuna, Bennett just for being really shit and weak, Nzogbia wage stealing, Westwood sideways crabbing and floaty corners, Ayew looking a right miserable bastard all the time. I hated that squad.
Comparing Garde to Sherwood is completely unfair and ignores the circumstances at the club when they were each appointed.Sherwood came in with Benteke as one of the most dangerous strikers in the league, Delph as a top end box-to-box midfielder and with us in the bottom 3 on goal difference.Garde came in with Gestede looking wildly out of his depth as the main striker, Lescott and Richards at the back looking like they were both ready for retirement and a squad that was pretty clearly split in 2. On top of that we were already 4 points adrift at the bottom and in need or more than just being 'galvanised'. His only choice was to change the attitude of the squad and get them playing in a way that suited the players we had but the senior players who should've backed him downed tools and let him fail. I don't care what he's done since, very few ex-Villa managers go on to better things, all we can judge him by is what happened whilst he was with us and, in my opinion, he deserves sympathy for being fucked over more than scorn for not being good enough.
Quote from: aj2k77 on February 26, 2021, 03:50:22 PMI despised that Villa side.Guzan, Lescott, Richards, Agbonlahor, the big clown keeper who was shit and hung around for years (I can't remember his name), grinning Bacuna, Bennett just for being really shit and weak, Nzogbia wage stealing, Westwood sideways crabbing and floaty corners, Ayew looking a right miserable bastard all the time. I hated that squad.Beautifully put. Lambert with his mumbling post match bullshite was close to unbearable.
Quote from: paul_e on February 26, 2021, 02:42:24 PMComparing Garde to Sherwood is completely unfair and ignores the circumstances at the club when they were each appointed.Sherwood came in with Benteke as one of the most dangerous strikers in the league, Delph as a top end box-to-box midfielder and with us in the bottom 3 on goal difference.Garde came in with Gestede looking wildly out of his depth as the main striker, Lescott and Richards at the back looking like they were both ready for retirement and a squad that was pretty clearly split in 2. On top of that we were already 4 points adrift at the bottom and in need or more than just being 'galvanised'. His only choice was to change the attitude of the squad and get them playing in a way that suited the players we had but the senior players who should've backed him downed tools and let him fail. I don't care what he's done since, very few ex-Villa managers go on to better things, all we can judge him by is what happened whilst he was with us and, in my opinion, he deserves sympathy for being fucked over more than scorn for not being good enough.Benteke and Delph were certainly not playing like top players at the time. We looked a complete and utter rabble and with a broken manager. Likes of Gabby were already in semi retirement. Run through the team (and the bench) that played the cup final, it was a dreadful one with the exception of those two and a very young Jack Grealish. I'm not in any way a fan of the geezer Tim Sherwood by the way but he walked into a complete shit show too. The season wasn't completely gone by the time Garde started and certainly shouldn't have petered out with a humiliating points total. A number of the players Sherwood mismanaged have gone on to play at a very high level since their Villa days. Garde got little or nothing out of them nor Grealish. Various reasons for that but a manager is there to manage. Garde completely failed to even get the group to put up a fight (well aside from fighting with each other).