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Title: Micah Richards - Released
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 08:37:30 PM
Nothing official yet, but as this seems to have legs, he gets his own thread.

Mirror

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Micah Richards has agreed to join Aston Villa after turning down a lucrative deal from Sunderland.

Sunderland had offered the right back around £90,000-a-week, but he chose Villa - and a deal understood to be around £65,000-a-week - after a personal intervention from Tim Sherwood.

The sought-after 26-year-old, had also been pursued by West Ham following his release from Manchester City.

The Villa boss is understood to have convinced Richards that he would play a key role in his new-look side and that he would be helped in his bid to break back into the England picture.

Richards has been at Italian club Fiorentina on loan but has made just 20 appearances for the Serie A club.

He has been keen to come back to the Premier League for some time, despite interest from Inter Milan, managed by his former City boss Roberto Mancini.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ron Manager on June 11, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
Well he looked promising at the beginning of his career, fast and powerful, but has lost his way over the past few years. No doubt very wealthy
though from his Man City contract. Could fit in at right back or centre half At 25/26 he has plenty of time left to make his way back to the top.

Could be a good signing for us.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 11, 2015, 08:45:38 PM
I'd be happy if he signs. As free transfers go he's potentially high quality. But £65,000 a week, isn't that kind of out of keeping with our wages?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Risso on June 11, 2015, 08:46:38 PM
Last time he played regularly, he was very good, and then lost his place to Zabaleta which is no disgrace.

Not sure I could ever forgive his potty mouth when he got the winner against us though.  How uncouth! ;)
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Risso on June 11, 2015, 08:47:11 PM
I'd be happy if he signs. As free transfers go he's potentially high quality. But £65,000 a week, isn't that kind of out of keeping with our wages?

The huge new TV deal says hello!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 11, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
I'd be happy if he signs. As free transfers go he's potentially high quality. But £65,000 a week, isn't that kind of out of keeping with our wages?

The huge new TV deal says hello!

Still surprised we'd pay in line with it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on June 11, 2015, 08:50:18 PM
65k a week? :o
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Trinitymiddle on June 11, 2015, 08:50:28 PM
A Brummie, as well!!!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Pete3206 on June 11, 2015, 08:51:22 PM
I'm amazed that he's only 26.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Trinitymiddle on June 11, 2015, 08:51:58 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 11, 2015, 08:52:43 PM
Where does this leave Scottish cafu
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on June 11, 2015, 08:53:17 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Exeter 77 on June 11, 2015, 08:53:28 PM
A Brummie, as well!!!

Think he was born in Birmingham by accident rather than his family living here - he was brought up somewhere lije Doncaster I think.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 08:53:56 PM
Last time he played regularly, he was very good, and then lost his place to Zabaleta which is no disgrace.

Not sure I could ever forgive his potty mouth when he got the winner against us though.  How uncouth! ;)

Last minute equaliser. Stupid ko time on a Sunday, shit crowd and atmosphere, was a pretty miserable game to be at. And we lost the replay.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Bad English on June 11, 2015, 08:54:15 PM
ABHHTS
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Trinitymiddle on June 11, 2015, 08:55:46 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?


Obviously Dick Advocaat doesn't agree. They offered him @90k a week
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?

Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 08:57:02 PM
With the new TV deal, plus being a free, I can understand us paying those wages, although we have no idea if that is what he's been offered. I do wonder though how happy players like Delph and Benteke will be though if he does come straight in on more money than them.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: eric woolban woolban on June 11, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
£90k a week from Sunderland? No chance.

Think the Mirror have plucked the figures out of the air.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clampy on June 11, 2015, 08:57:22 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?


Obviously Dick Advocaat doesn't agree. They offered him @90k a week

And those figures might not even be true either.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 11, 2015, 08:57:59 PM


Think the Mirror have plucked the figures out of the air.
Aswell as facts .
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Risso on June 11, 2015, 09:01:01 PM
Wasn't he seeing Helen Flanagan for a while?  Be nice for him to have something in common with one of the other Villa lads, should help him fit in!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Trinitymiddle on June 11, 2015, 09:02:56 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?


Obviously Dick Advocaat doesn't agree. They offered him @90k a week

And those figures might not even be true either.

Guess we'll never know.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: nigel on June 11, 2015, 09:04:21 PM
Nothing official yet, but as this seems to have legs, he gets his own thread.

Mirror

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Micah Richards has agreed to join Aston Villa after turning down a lucrative deal from Sunderland.

Sunderland had offered the right back around £90,000-a-week, but he chose Villa - and a deal understood to be around £65,000-a-week - after a personal intervention from Tim Sherwood.

The sought-after 26-year-old, had also been pursued by West Ham following his release from Manchester City.

The Villa boss is understood to have convinced Richards that he would play a key role in his new-look side and that he would be helped in his bid to break back into the England picture.

Richards has been at Italian club Fiorentina on loan but has made just 20 appearances for the Serie A club.

He has been keen to come back to the Premier League for some time, despite interest from Inter Milan, managed by his former City boss Roberto Mancini.

Speaks volumes to me. Show a bit of class, too
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: richl on June 11, 2015, 09:06:33 PM
https://instagram.com/p/3zRn12QgZm/
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: 1_Pablo_Angel on June 11, 2015, 09:11:27 PM
Last time he played regularly, he was very good, and then lost his place to Zabaleta which is no disgrace.

Not sure I could ever forgive his potty mouth when he got the winner against us though.  How uncouth! ;)

Last minute equaliser. Stupid ko time on a Sunday, shit crowd and atmosphere, was a pretty miserable game to be at. And we lost the replay.

Good goal from Milan though as I recall...
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on June 11, 2015, 09:13:13 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?

Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?

Why do you care? Not everyone has to be positive all the time.

If Richards stays fit, he'll be a good signing, but Man City would've kept him for their homegrown quota, so does that suggest there's something bigger? My main worry is that we'll give him a 3/4/5 year deal on 65k a week and end up getting about 10 appearances in return.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2015, 09:16:25 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?

Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?

Why do you care? Not everyone has to be positive all the time.

If Richards stays fit, he'll be a good signing, but Man City would've kept him for their homegrown quota, so does that suggest there's something bigger? My main worry is that we'll give him a 3/4/5 year deal on 65k a week and end up getting about 10 appearances in return.

Being positive once a decade would be a start. We seem to be about to sign a top quality player, on top wages. Above anything else it's a sign that the days of austerity may be over and we're going to start paying the going rate again. And you're moaning that we're paying it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 11, 2015, 09:19:00 PM
If he can get back to the form of his early 20's he's worth a decent deal.

The biggest worry would be that we've taken finding Vlaar's replacement a bit too literally.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 11, 2015, 09:19:48 PM
He's a definite upgrade on Bacuna, Hutton and Lowton. At his best he's powerful and quick.

The hope for me, as Dave W puts it, is that it's an indication of the wages we are prepared to pay our summer targets in general.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clampy on June 11, 2015, 09:24:09 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?

Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?

Why do you care? Not everyone has to be positive all the time.

If Richards stays fit, he'll be a good signing, but Man City would've kept him for their homegrown quota, so does that suggest there's something bigger?

He's out of contract and he wanted to move on and play on a more regular basis. He probably wouldn't have stayed at Man City anyway.

Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 11, 2015, 09:25:19 PM
He's a potentially excellent player. Let's hope we can unlock that potential.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Yossarian on June 11, 2015, 09:26:27 PM
Forgive me for not keeping up to date with events but when I was on here last night we were about to be bought and therefore nobody was  allowed in or out. But today we are signing Micah Richards. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

As for Micah Richards I think he is a skillful and nippy defender and I think he is a welcome addition.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on June 11, 2015, 09:28:31 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?

Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?

Why do you care? Not everyone has to be positive all the time.

If Richards stays fit, he'll be a good signing, but Man City would've kept him for their homegrown quota, so does that suggest there's something bigger? My main worry is that we'll give him a 3/4/5 year deal on 65k a week and end up getting about 10 appearances in return.

Being positive once a decade would be a start. We seem to be about to sign a top quality player, on top wages. Above anything else it's a sign that the days of austerity may be over and we're going to start paying the going rate again. And you're moaning that we're paying it.

I'm positive about a lot of things, but giving someone like Richards 65k a week feels like a throwback to the MON years, or even the N'Zogbia/Given deals. Of course I'm happy we seem to be prepared to pay big wages again, I'd just prefer it if we offered that sort of money to players who don't spend most of the time on the treatment table.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 11, 2015, 09:29:50 PM
He hasn't spent any time on the treatment table at Villa yet. So how about give him a chance.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 09:29:59 PM
Forgive me for not keeping up to date with events but when I was on here last night we were about to be bought and therefore nobody was  allowed in or out. But today we are signing Micah Richards. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

As for Micah Richards I think he is a skillful and nippy defender and I think he is a welcome addition.

Can't believe you missed the news! I reckon it will be Messi next! Although Bosko will complain that it wasn't Ronaldo!  ;D
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 09:33:11 PM
I'm positive about a lot of things, but giving someone like Richards 65k a week feels like a throwback to the MON years, or even the N'Zogbia/Given deals. Of course I'm happy we seem to be prepared to pay big wages again, I'd just prefer it if we offered that sort of money to players who don't spend most of the time on the treatment table.

It's no different to paying say £4m and giving him 35K a week. Would you view the deal differently if that was the break down of his contract?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Yossarian on June 11, 2015, 09:34:11 PM
Forgive me for not keeping up to date with events but when I was on here last night we were about to be bought and therefore nobody was  allowed in or out. But today we are signing Micah Richards. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

As for Micah Richards I think he is a skillful and nippy defender and I think he is a welcome addition.

Can't believe you missed the news! I reckon it will be Messi next! Although Bosko will complain that it wasn't Ronalado!  ;D

I am behind the times, I haven't even heard of Ronalado. Is he any good?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clampy on June 11, 2015, 09:35:37 PM
65k a week? :o
On a free, so bigger personal package

Still, that's way too much for a player like him. Is MON back in charge of our transfer policy?

Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?

Why do you care? Not everyone has to be positive all the time.

If Richards stays fit, he'll be a good signing, but Man City would've kept him for their homegrown quota, so does that suggest there's something bigger? My main worry is that we'll give him a 3/4/5 year deal on 65k a week and end up getting about 10 appearances in return.

Being positive once a decade would be a start. We seem to be about to sign a top quality player, on top wages. Above anything else it's a sign that the days of austerity may be over and we're going to start paying the going rate again. And you're moaning that we're paying it.

I'm positive about a lot of things,

My internet must have been down that morning.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: adam#1 on June 11, 2015, 09:36:05 PM
If the wages are true, then we couldn't really have wanted Cleverly who's apparently on 50k a week from everton.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 09:36:44 PM
That's what happens when you type and eat pizza at the same time!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on June 11, 2015, 09:37:24 PM
He hasn't spent any time on the treatment table at Villa yet. So how about give him a chance.

3 pages for the first call to give him a chance.

You do realise I have to, right? I'm a Villa fan, of course I'll support the players when they put on our colours. Doesn't mean I can't/won't voice my disapproval with the signing!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Smirker on June 11, 2015, 09:39:14 PM
Could be a good signing. Not too bothered on a free.

Will gave Gabby a run for his money in the muscular stakes.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clampy on June 11, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
He hasn't spent any time on the treatment table at Villa yet. So how about give him a chance.

3 pages for the first call to give him a chance.

You do realise I have to, right? I'm a Villa fan, of course I'll support the players when they put on our colours. Doesn't mean I can't/won't voice my disapproval with the signing!

So you don't like the signing because we're apparently paying him £65k a week?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 11, 2015, 09:39:57 PM
I like how it says that sherwood intervened "son you don't want to go to Sunderland it's a shit hole, I'll pay you less and you'll rip my hand off"

I hope it happens he's only 26, he seems to have been around forever
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on June 11, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
I'm positive about a lot of things, but giving someone like Richards 65k a week feels like a throwback to the MON years, or even the N'Zogbia/Given deals. Of course I'm happy we seem to be prepared to pay big wages again, I'd just prefer it if we offered that sort of money to players who don't spend most of the time on the treatment table.

It's no different to paying say £4m and giving him 35K a week. Would you view the deal differently if that was the break down of his contract?

My issue is with paying that sort of money to someone with the recent history Richards has, so yeah, I'd still be disappointed if it was 4m/35kpw.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Monty on June 11, 2015, 09:40:52 PM
£65k a week would be an awful lot for Micah Richards, have to say. He's worth a shot, as a signing, and gives us a little more speed in defence. However, he didn't exactly cause a storm at Fiorentina, so premium wages would hardly make much business sense to me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villan from luton on June 11, 2015, 09:41:51 PM
I think Richards would be a superb signing. Can play right back, centre back or defensive midfield and would be better than anything we have in all those positions. Heard him on the radio the other week and seems hungry to impress and level headed. Cant believe any Villa fan would not want a player of his calibre. Cant believe he has come without knowing of the plans we have moving forward
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 11, 2015, 09:48:35 PM
Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?
Bad side not black side.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: KRS on June 11, 2015, 09:49:16 PM
Fantastic signing...has the potential to be an awesome move and player for us. I've wanted us to sign Richards for a few seasons since he was frozen out at Cit£h so a very big welcome to Villa from me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 11, 2015, 09:49:56 PM
£65k a week would be an awful lot for Micah Richards, have to say. He's worth a shot, as a signing, and gives us a little more speed in defence. However, he didn't exactly cause a storm at Fiorentina, so premium wages would hardly make much business sense to me.
Yes silly money but there is no reasonable scale in football when it comes to players wages.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: KRS on June 11, 2015, 10:00:06 PM
I'm afraid if we don't start making £50k/week a standard wage then we'll be looking at lower level players and relegation...thats the way the game is going (gone).
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villan from luton on June 11, 2015, 10:03:03 PM
Quite right KRS, it is obscene but it is the way football is now. We cant have it both ways. Do we want to be struggling every year and moaning about buying lower league players or actually showing a bit of intent.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Monty on June 11, 2015, 10:06:48 PM
Obviously we need to pay more, I'm just more concerned about whether or not this player is worth that. Anyway, I'd be surprised if he turned into Martin Laursen for us, but I'd be more surprised if he turned into Habib Beye - in other words, maybe not our greatest ever signing, but he's good enough for us.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villan from luton on June 11, 2015, 10:09:03 PM
Monty, he is more than good enough for us, he is a superb player and we will be lucky to get him
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: aj2k77 on June 11, 2015, 10:11:22 PM
If this happens I'll be happy, this surely is a sign that we will be paying premier league wages again. Add to that he's better than what we've got, if we can get him playing week in week out we've made a cracking signing. A few more of these and we can start looking upwards.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Monty on June 11, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
I don't know how much of him you've been watching, but it's a good thing he's quick because he doesn't appear to have actually learned anything about positioning during his 8 years as a professional defender, either at right-back or centre-back. But that's fine - if he had as good positioning as Clark he'd be in the top four, because his physical attributes are something else. I wouldn't set myself up for a letdown on him, but at our level we have to compromise and he definitely gives us things we don't have.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 10:15:16 PM
Monty, he is more than good enough for us, he is a superb player and we will be lucky to get him

Agreed.  He'll be such an improvement on Lowton and Bacuna.

That's all based on the player of 4 or 5 years ago though. I doubt any of us have much clue if he's still that good or not after the last 3 years he's had.

I'd rather sign him than not sign him though I will add.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: aj2k77 on June 11, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
It's one of those that are probably worth the gamble isn't it. He's good in the air, physical and quick. All 3 attributes we've been lacking.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ads on June 11, 2015, 10:22:21 PM
Pleasing to see that he played 17 games in Italy, so he got something of a run together out there. Says a lot about his attitude that he was willing to real out of his comfort zone when so few English players will.

We all know he is a monster and also quick too. I think he is a lot better than what we have and if the wages we are paying suggest anything, it's that we've realise that we're a Premier League side again.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BC54 VFC on June 11, 2015, 10:24:40 PM
Is there anything you couldn't see the black side of?
Bad side not black side.

No, black side.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: warleyboy on June 11, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
Chuffed to bits, big strong defender who has pace, will cause havoc at set pieces and corners.
Hopefully he can take okore under his wing and get him up to speed, could be a great partnership in the making.
Sends a nice little message out about our intentions to other possible targets.

Sinclair, Richards.

Good start.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Le Lapin on June 11, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
Great signing if it happens.  Himself, Okore, Clarke and Vlaar maybe. We could have the makings of decent back line.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 10:28:25 PM
Pleasing to see that he played 17 games in Italy, so he got something of a run together out there.

Which is less than Vlaar played for us last season. And he did a full game in less than half of them. I'll be happy if we sign him but he does come with a pretty big question mark.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 11, 2015, 10:28:38 PM
Great signing if it happens.  Himself, Okore, Clarke and Vlaar maybe. We could have the makings of decent back line.

CLARK

It's not that hard.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Richard E on June 11, 2015, 10:29:00 PM
Very happy with this one. A proper man.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Goldie.7 on June 11, 2015, 10:43:10 PM
More expensive injury prone players.

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/9/96109/2670006-7183311308-Danie.gif)

Would I preferred him to go elsewhere see above. I'll give him some credit though I did sub the mcfc youtube channel because him and Lescott were just too funny together.

Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: manic-road on June 11, 2015, 10:46:25 PM
It could be a good signing if it happens, just hope he doesn't become another regular in the physio's room.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Goldie.7 on June 11, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
Pleasing to see that he played 17 games in Italy, so he got something of a run together out there.

Which is less than Vlaar played for us last season. And he did a full game in less than half of them. I'll be happy if we sign him but he does come with a pretty big question mark.

Hardly a run.

Europa: 5 starts 1 sub
Serie A: 7 starts 3 sub
Cup: 2 starts 0 sub
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ads on June 11, 2015, 10:53:19 PM
Hardly wheel chair bound is he Little Miss Sunshine?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 11, 2015, 10:56:09 PM
Well I think this is a great signing if it comes off.  Moreover if true we are beating other clubs to players and not based on wages seemingly.  This is a much needed boost.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 11, 2015, 10:59:30 PM
God forbid we should ever pay the going rate for a player.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: aev on June 11, 2015, 11:00:12 PM
I have always liked him as a player - we can get as sniffy as we like but we finished 4th bottom and he (hopefully) wants to join us.

Wages (when the player is out of contract) are a red herring.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 11, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
hasnt he played a fair few games at CB aswell as RB
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on June 11, 2015, 11:09:13 PM
hasnt he played a fair few games at CB aswell as RB

Started off as a CB if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
God forbid we should ever pay the going rate for a player.

There's always going to be a debate about a player who in the last 3 years has played less league football than Vlaar did for us last season.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: aev on June 11, 2015, 11:13:08 PM
We finished 4th bottom.

We are gambling on a potentially excellent player, and that is exactly what we are left with. We are so far behind the 8 ball that something like this is a real coup - especially if the Sunderland wages are correct.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on June 11, 2015, 11:13:41 PM
Statement of intent and all that.

Cleverley signs for Everton!
Vlaar's contract ends!
Benteke's agent's got a big gob!

Micah Richards signs for The Villa!

A strong positive sign for me.
Especially with the news of new owners in the wings.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Louzie0 on June 11, 2015, 11:17:37 PM
Statement of intent and all that.

Cleverley signs for Everton!
Vlaar's contract ends!
Benteke's agent's got a big gob!

Micah Richards signs for The Villa!

A strong positive sign for me.
Especially with the news of new owners in the wings.
Yay!
Bring on the next one!
Suddenly this summer is exciting  :)
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 11, 2015, 11:37:21 PM
This is interesting if true.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/583930/Ron-Vlaar-Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-transfer-news

I think Richards is better than Vlaar if he stays fit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 11, 2015, 11:48:40 PM
I like him. I'd like to see him centre-half. Richards/Okore/Baker/Clark seems like a good defensive partnership. I'm not bothered either way about Vlaar.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 11, 2015, 11:52:30 PM
This is interesting if true.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/583930/Ron-Vlaar-Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-transfer-news

I think Richards is better than Vlaar if he stays fit.

He was placed on the released list with a contract offer on the table. I thought at one point he wanted to extend but now I don't expect he'll remain with us.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: lovejoy on June 12, 2015, 12:00:33 AM
I just read the thread, has Richads definitely signed?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: tomd2103 on June 12, 2015, 12:05:16 AM
I like him. I'd like to see him centre-half. Richards/Okore/Baker/Clark seems like a good defensive partnership. I'm not bothered either way about Vlaar.

RB for me.  Richards, a new CB, Clark and a new LB would be a better prospect for next season.  His injury record is a worry, but we've said that about certain defenders before.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: KRS on June 12, 2015, 12:08:52 AM
This is interesting if true.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/583930/Ron-Vlaar-Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-transfer-news

I think Richards is better than Vlaar if he stays fit.
Yeah good luck to Vlaar trying to get his step up move to any of the current top 6 clubs...he'll be dropped like a bomb as soon as he starts making his comical errors and injured every month. Richards is an unknown quantity at the moment but he's still a much better prospect.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 12, 2015, 12:11:28 AM
He's physically a powerful player.

That's about it, though, I think. Played 20 games for Fiorentina, and half of them were in the Europa League or Coppa Italia.

Still, if he's free ....
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: brontebilly on June 12, 2015, 12:21:01 AM
Awful signing, another injury prone has been at the back who gave up playing the game seriously a few years ago. Fits in nicely with the likes of Cole and Senderos.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ozzjim on June 12, 2015, 12:47:05 AM
Injury prone, but in truth one of the most highly rated defenders of his generation. Potential if he stays fit to be a top 4 player and regular for England. 65k a week without any transfer outlay is probably about the going rate too. If Sherwood can get 2 months solid football out of Vlaar by managing his body, I am sure he can Richards, I like that he went to Italy for a season too, and that he wants to come enough to turn down others to come here. Good age, potentially top class player. Happier than when we signed Joe Cole this time last year.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 12, 2015, 01:02:27 AM
Injury prone, but in truth one of the most highly rated defenders of his generation.

A bit over the top to say the least!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Havencheese on June 12, 2015, 01:04:11 AM
Read an interesting little piece in WSC a while back, on how things didn't seem to be working out for him at Fiorentina due to how the game tends to be played in Italy. So anyone using the argument about him being a dubious signature for us for that reason. I think he'll slot back into regular English football with a point to prove. A very experienced proven signing aged 26 is a good signing. Let's hope his body is up to it for the next few years.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ozzjim on June 12, 2015, 01:08:39 AM
Injury prone, but in truth one of the most highly rated defenders of his generation.

In English football he was, from 18-23 the next big thing.

A bit over the top to say the least!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 12, 2015, 01:16:43 AM
Awful signing, another injury prone has been at the back who gave up playing the game seriously a few years ago. Fits in nicely with the likes of Cole and Senderos.

You could be right or he could turn out to be a very astute bit of business. I'd imagine he still has to pass a medical.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 12, 2015, 03:13:36 AM
We finished 4th bottom.

We are gambling on a potentially excellent player, and that is exactly what we are left with. We are so far behind the 8 ball that something like this is a real coup - especially if the Sunderland wages are correct.

Spot on. If it happens this would be a great signing for where we are.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villadelph on June 12, 2015, 04:24:10 AM
There is just no way Sunderland offered him 90k. I refuse to believe that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 12, 2015, 04:34:17 AM
There is just no way Sunderland offered him 90k. I refuse to believe that.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/24/article-0-14ACF8ED000005DC-174_306x423.jpg)

12 Million PLUS add ons they paid.

This is Sunderland, the normal laws of space & time do not apply.

Just sayin :)
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Goldie.7 on June 12, 2015, 04:55:05 AM
Sunderland offering £90,000 a week for Richards.

(https://mtncatholic.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/laugh-michael-scott.gif)

Pretty much the entire Readytogo thread doesn't believe it either.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Goldie.7 on June 12, 2015, 05:03:01 AM
There is just no way Sunderland offered him 90k. I refuse to believe that.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/24/article-0-14ACF8ED000005DC-174_306x423.jpg)

12 Million PLUS add ons they paid.

This is Sunderland, the normal laws of space & time do not apply.

Just sayin :)

He's on a widely reported £35/40k though big difference. I reckon Defoe earns the most there, similar to his huge Toronto wages.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 12, 2015, 05:24:41 AM
There is just no way Sunderland offered him 90k. I refuse to believe that.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/24/article-0-14ACF8ED000005DC-174_306x423.jpg)

12 Million PLUS add ons they paid.

This is Sunderland, the normal laws of space & time do not apply.

Just sayin :)

He's on a widely reported £35/40k though big difference. I reckon Defoe earns the most there, similar to his huge Toronto wages.

Probably right, I just enjoy bringing up other clubs over priced signings :)
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: passitsideways on June 12, 2015, 05:35:18 AM
If we're really offering him 65k a week, it makes you wonder what happened with the Cleverley negotiations.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 12, 2015, 05:59:07 AM
If we're really offering him 65k a week, it makes you wonder what happened with the Cleverley negotiations.

Maybe Everton is to Cleverly what Villa is to Richards? Better than the alternative. Players can make moves based on location or personal preference over money I guess.

Or alternately (and most hopefully) maybe our situation has changed since the Cleverly negotiations?


Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: oldtimernow on June 12, 2015, 06:05:33 AM
Great signing if it happens.  Himself, Okore, Clarke and Vlaar maybe. We could have the makings of decent back line.

CLARK

It's not that hard.

a marque signing too........not a feckin tent
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clampy on June 12, 2015, 07:09:38 AM
An interesting enough interview.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3106356/Micah-Richards-talks-rollercoaster-year-loan-Fiorentina-Italy-better-player-ll-moving-on.html#ixzz3btUH2PZQ

Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 12, 2015, 07:14:19 AM
I'm impressed that he had the balls to go abroad for a spell. That in itself is a good sign.

I remember seeing him play for England and thinking he looked really, really promising. Hopefully Sherwood can get the best out of him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: LeeB on June 12, 2015, 07:53:02 AM
Awful signing, another injury prone has been at the back who gave up playing the game seriously a few years ago. Fits in nicely with the likes of Cole and Senderos.

Like that fella we signed a few years back, Paul somebody or other.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: rob_bridge on June 12, 2015, 08:00:48 AM
The next Paul McGrath
The next Joe Cole

Probably somewhere in between. He is better than Hutton Bacuna Lowton For Starters.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 12, 2015, 08:02:14 AM
I like playing Bacuna at right back. It's exciting. Stick Richards centre-half.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: RussellC on June 12, 2015, 08:06:11 AM
I'm honestly not sure what I think about this one. If/when it happens, I'll be very interested to hear whether TS sees him as a full-back or a centre-back. Hoepfully it's the former, as I'm still nto convinced that either Hutton or Bacuna are the long-term answer in that position. If it's as a centre-back I'll be moer sceptical, as we already have 3 injury-prone options there (4 if Ron stays).
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: nigel on June 12, 2015, 08:22:49 AM
I like playing Bacuna at right back. It's exciting. Stick Richards centre-half.

Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that Sherwood has mentioned, so might use, the 3-5-2 formation, so Richards might very well be the right side of that three.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: RussellC on June 12, 2015, 08:25:02 AM
Bacuna's an exciting player going forward. Defensively, it's not so much excitement as terror.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: john e on June 12, 2015, 08:31:54 AM
if this is a virtual done deal, how come there is n o mention of it on SSN,
they are normaly all over this sort of transfer news
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 12, 2015, 08:35:35 AM
if this is a virtual done deal, how come there is n o mention of it on SSN,
they are normaly all over this sort of transfer news

It's on their website.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: john e on June 12, 2015, 08:37:42 AM
if this is a virtual done deal, how come there is n o mention of it on SSN,
they are normaly all over this sort of transfer news

It's on their website.

is it, ok fair enough, i don't look there
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 12, 2015, 08:48:21 AM
Is he THAT injury prone?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: passport1 on June 12, 2015, 08:49:16 AM
Probably a good signing. I imagine he will be a big personality in the dressing room. Ideal in the tub thumping Tim era.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Diablo on June 12, 2015, 09:03:18 AM
An interesting enough interview.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3106356/Micah-Richards-talks-rollercoaster-year-loan-Fiorentina-Italy-better-player-ll-moving-on.html#ixzz3btUH2PZQ



Not sure if this has been posted up (couldn't see it) but this is another decent interview with him from Football Focus. Obviously ignore the goal he got against us at the end.



I think he'd certainly be an improvement on what we have and I like how he comes across. He obviously wants to play regular football and has matured as a person/footballer judging from these interviews. He must be pretty determined/focused/desperate to play regularly to be willing to give up the beauty and weather of Florence. That speaks volumes to me. Big wages aside I hope he signs. I think he'd do well for us and be a good fit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ozzjim on June 12, 2015, 09:05:20 AM
Re Cleverley I read yesterday his deal at Everton is actually 70k a week which is what has caused the cafuffle with Mccarthy
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: tomd2103 on June 12, 2015, 09:19:09 AM
An interesting enough interview.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3106356/Micah-Richards-talks-rollercoaster-year-loan-Fiorentina-Italy-better-player-ll-moving-on.html#ixzz3btUH2PZQ



Not sure if this has been posted up (couldn't see it) but this is another decent interview with him from Football Focus. Obviously ignore the goal he got against us at the end.



I think he'd certainly be an improvement on what we have and I like how he comes across. He obviously wants to play regular football and has matured as a person/footballer judging from these interviews. He must be pretty determined/focused/desperate to play regularly to be willing to give up the beauty and weather of Florence. That speaks volumes to me. Big wages aside I hope he signs. I think he'd do well for us and be a good fit.

I was trying to remember when that was.  If I recall correctly it was a Sunday night FA Cup game and his late equaliser took it to a replay.  Houllier era?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Deano's Mullet on June 12, 2015, 09:20:36 AM
An interesting enough interview.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3106356/Micah-Richards-talks-rollercoaster-year-loan-Fiorentina-Italy-better-player-ll-moving-on.html#ixzz3btUH2PZQ



Not sure if this has been posted up (couldn't see it) but this is another decent interview with him from Football Focus. Obviously ignore the goal he got against us at the end.



I think he'd certainly be an improvement on what we have and I like how he comes across. He obviously wants to play regular football and has matured as a person/footballer judging from these interviews. He must be pretty determined/focused/desperate to play regularly to be willing to give up the beauty and weather of Florence. That speaks volumes to me. Big wages aside I hope he signs. I think he'd do well for us and be a good fit.

I was trying to remember when that was.  If I recall correctly it was a Sunday night FA Cup game and his late equaliser took it to a replay.  Houllier era?

O'Leary. They battered us entire match but we took lead against run of play with about ten mins to go. Naturally we threw it away at the end and got tanked in the replay. Baros got our goal.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: in exile on June 12, 2015, 09:35:26 AM
Re Cleverley I read yesterday his deal at Everton is actually 70k a week which is what has caused the cafuffle with Mccarthy
Bargain!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Matt Collins on June 12, 2015, 09:39:32 AM
It's what you get with a Bosman but it clearly can cause problems of the McCarthy sort unless they're obviously a cut above
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: bob on June 12, 2015, 09:53:41 AM
An interesting enough interview.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3106356/Micah-Richards-talks-rollercoaster-year-loan-Fiorentina-Italy-better-player-ll-moving-on.html#ixzz3btUH2PZQ



Not sure if this has been posted up (couldn't see it) but this is another decent interview with him from Football Focus. Obviously ignore the goal he got against us at the end.



I think he'd certainly be an improvement on what we have and I like how he comes across. He obviously wants to play regular football and has matured as a person/footballer judging from these interviews. He must be pretty determined/focused/desperate to play regularly to be willing to give up the beauty and weather of Florence. That speaks volumes to me. Big wages aside I hope he signs. I think he'd do well for us and be a good fit.

I was trying to remember when that was.  If I recall correctly it was a Sunday night FA Cup game and his late equaliser took it to a replay.  Houllier era?

O'Leary. They battered us entire match but we took lead against run of play with about ten mins to go. Naturally we threw it away at the end and got tanked in the replay. Baros got our goal.

2-2, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 12, 2015, 09:58:40 AM
I seem to remember him swearing in the post match interview on TV.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 12, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
This is interesting if true.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/583930/Ron-Vlaar-Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-transfer-news

I think Richards is better than Vlaar if he stays fit.


Wouldn't arse just be better off getting senders . The cheaper option on the medical table .
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: supertom on June 12, 2015, 10:02:54 AM
Okay I was all accepting of Richards signing. But I've just seen the picture of him in that article, wearing his hat on the back of his head like a twat. I'm not having that sort of nonsense at my club. He can take Zogbia by the hand and ruddy well bugger off down to London where that sort of nonsense can be tolerated. That's Tarquinion behaviour that is.


In all seriousness, my view on Richards is (twat hat aside) that if he's fit he walks into our team. If he gets a good run of games he'll be a success. If he's constantly suffering injury niggles, then he won't.

What he really needs is a good run. A solid 30 game season minimum. His injuries probably haven't been quite as bad as his appearance record might suggest over the last 3 seasons. I think it's been as much a case of just being unable to get into good sides, particularly in the case of City. Zabeletta has been immense ahead of him in the pecking order.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Diablo on June 12, 2015, 10:03:34 AM
An interesting enough interview.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3106356/Micah-Richards-talks-rollercoaster-year-loan-Fiorentina-Italy-better-player-ll-moving-on.html#ixzz3btUH2PZQ



Not sure if this has been posted up (couldn't see it) but this is another decent interview with him from Football Focus. Obviously ignore the goal he got against us at the end.



I think he'd certainly be an improvement on what we have and I like how he comes across. He obviously wants to play regular football and has matured as a person/footballer judging from these interviews. He must be pretty determined/focused/desperate to play regularly to be willing to give up the beauty and weather of Florence. That speaks volumes to me. Big wages aside I hope he signs. I think he'd do well for us and be a good fit.

I was trying to remember when that was.  If I recall correctly it was a Sunday night FA Cup game and his late equaliser took it to a replay.  Houllier era?

O'Leary. They battered us entire match but we took lead against run of play with about ten mins to go. Naturally we threw it away at the end and got tanked in the replay. Baros got our goal.


If you can bear to watch it this was his infamous interview after the equaliser. I'm guessing it was probably his first goal and his first interview. The apologies from the BBC are pretty amusing. I even thought so at the time despite being gutted about the manner and timing of the goal. As well as showing the exuberance of youth compared to the last interview it shows how much he's developed. If he signs hopefully he can grab a few headed goals for us (something we haven't had enough off from our defenders for far too long).

Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 12, 2015, 10:11:49 AM
Is he THAT injury prone?
No not THAT injury.... it's ANOTHER injury!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 12, 2015, 10:15:11 AM
There is just no way Sunderland offered him 90k. I refuse to believe that.
HIS AGENT SAID THEY DID SO HOW CAN ANYONE NOT BELIEVE THAT?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Matt Collins on June 12, 2015, 10:19:25 AM
This article may be ill informed but suggests Richards does see himself as a centre back

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3054103/Micah-Richards-Manchester-City-s-forgotten-man-cold-Fiorentina-Premier-League-snap-one-England-s-nearly-men.html
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Damo70 on June 12, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
There is just no way Sunderland offered him 90k. I refuse to believe that.
HIS AGENT SAID THEY DID SO HOW CAN ANYONE NOT BELIEVE THAT?


I reckon Richards' agent played his ace card and said to Sunderland "Give us ninety grand a week or stick with John O'Shea for another season".
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 12, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
This headline is a throw back to late 70's early 80's when Villa and Liverpool were the top teams and manu and Aresenal were also rans!

"Ron Vlaar CLEARED to join Arsenal or Man Utd as Villa beat Liverpool to Micah Richards"
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Damo70 on June 12, 2015, 10:32:50 AM
You have to feel sorry for the Arsenal physio. In the week he gets shot of Abou Diabi he then finds out he might be getting Ron Vlaar.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: paul_e on June 12, 2015, 10:48:07 AM
You have to feel sorry for the Arsenal physio. In the week he gets shot of Abou Diabi he then finds out he might be getting Ron Vlaar.

They'd have had to go through redundancy proceedings with some of the medical staff otherwise, they should be praised for thinking of the staff.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave on June 12, 2015, 11:10:45 AM
If this happens then I think this is a signing with more positives than negatives.

We don't have the luxury of signing young, brilliant, cheap, injury-free players so we need to sacrifice somewhere. I daresay we could sign Michael Dawson from Hull or picked up Antonin Alcaraz for free and they would be completely injury free and a bit rubbish. I'd rather take a risk on a potentially great player than go with somebody who can be relied upon to be mediocre.

That's not to say that it shouldn't be approached with a bit of trepidation though.

The main positive here is that there was a player fairly heavily in demand who other teams wanted to sign and it looks like he may have chosen us. Regardless of the player in question, I can't see how that is anything other than a good thing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 12, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
I'm happy with this .
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: aev on June 12, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Let's face it, we'd be miffed if he was signing for Leicester or Newcastle.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 12, 2015, 11:40:27 AM
I don't see we are In any position to grumble
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: footyskillz on June 12, 2015, 11:42:40 AM
Richards signing is very Sherwood the 110% effort is his idea of winning. The bosman move will cost villa in region of £2.5 mil to 3.5 a year. Signing on fee at £650 to 750 thou. We are looking at clauses and bonus for appearances, win matches any eng cal up and team performance targets. I feel glad of signing as it's a seeming replacement for big Ron. Big mica was a boyhood arsenal fan but he's welcomed to the club
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: KRS on June 12, 2015, 11:46:22 AM
The suggestions about 352 are misleading if you read the articles posted on here...the reference to 352 actually explains why he didn't get that many games in Italy rather than the formation change being to accommodate Richards.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: paul_e on June 12, 2015, 11:54:19 AM
I hope we don't consider him only as a central defender, if we're struggling on the right I'd like to think we're happy to move him out one and bring in a central defender to try to fix it, that flexibility is something we should always be looking for because as well as helping with injury cover it also means you can make tactical changes during games, I'm fedup of seeing Villa have 1 game plan that we follow regardless of whether it's working, we've had 9 years of that under Lerner and it's made us predictable and dull.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: onje_villa on June 12, 2015, 12:20:28 PM
An interesting enough interview.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3106356/Micah-Richards-talks-rollercoaster-year-loan-Fiorentina-Italy-better-player-ll-moving-on.html#ixzz3btUH2PZQ


Refreshing and different interview that. Like how he doesn't always give the obvious answer, eg: playing for England. I can certainly see the point of people on here questioning his injury record. I don't think that is being overly negative. Still potentially a class act and if it's indicative of a change in our spending habits, this is great news (of course it could just be spending the Bent/Vlaar wages)

Not sure if this has been posted up (couldn't see it) but this is another decent interview with him from Football Focus. Obviously ignore the goal he got against us at the end.



I think he'd certainly be an improvement on what we have and I like how he comes across. He obviously wants to play regular football and has matured as a person/footballer judging from these interviews. He must be pretty determined/focused/desperate to play regularly to be willing to give up the beauty and weather of Florence. That speaks volumes to me. Big wages aside I hope he signs. I think he'd do well for us and be a good fit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: bridgwater villa on June 12, 2015, 12:20:53 PM
Let's face it, we'd be miffed if he was signing for Leicester or Newcastle.

Spot on
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: thegreatdane on June 12, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
http://www.micahrichards.com/

WOW
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 12, 2015, 12:24:57 PM
You have to feel sorry for the Arsenal physio. In the week he gets shot of Abou Diabi he then finds out he might be getting Ron Vlaar.

Why sorry? In the world of a physio the arrival of Ron Vlaar would be job security. Like a mechanic, he wouldn't be happy if there aren't any cars to fix. If Ron Vlaar was a car he'd always have a leak, a rattle or a Check Engine light on.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 12, 2015, 12:30:16 PM
Shouldn't that website read:

One of the self-proclaimed finest defenders in Europe?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 12, 2015, 01:13:14 PM
I can't see why anyone would be unhappy with this.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clark W Griswold on June 12, 2015, 01:18:18 PM
Very good potentially, I know who I would rather have next season, him or Vlaar. If we've offered him the contract we wanted Vlaar to sign, it's much better for us.

Vlaar to Arsenal then....FFS
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ads on June 12, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
There a lot of positives.

He's a first team player for one and better than what we have, with age on his side and the attitude too. He's a proven Premeir League player, a good one at that, and we have signed precious few of those in the past five seasons.

If we can add similar quality to the midfield, then we may be able to avoid repeating the same nonsense we have for years.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: KRS on June 12, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
Would anyone else think that Richards could make an excellent holding midfielder? He hasn't played there (as far as i'm aware) but he has the physical attributes to give us the speed, strength and power needed to fulfil that role quite well.

He'd certainly be a better option than Sanchez in that position, so if he were tasked to do the job of breaking up play, winning the ball and laying the ball off to the more creative players then playing the "Coquelin" role could suit him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ads on June 12, 2015, 01:37:16 PM
Deal expected to be completed within a week according to Pete Colley, who I sincireley hope is £100 richer soon too.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 12, 2015, 01:38:26 PM
I can't see why anyone would be unhappy with this.

the big reason for me is that his wages could cause problems amongst the existing players unless he is considerably better than the average (which I doubt he will be).  With these free transfers I would prefer that the wage stays comparable with the rest of the squad and bonuses/lump sums are paid when milestones of the contract are achieved.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 12, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Ultimately we need to compete in the Premier League, so we need to pay the wages.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 12, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Firstly, the actual wages he'll be one aren't known. Whenever I read "understood" it means the reporter is really saying "we don't know so we'll make up a number that fits the story". Then, whatever he's on it will be measured against other players. In our company, while not the same as football which is a lot more public, when we hire someone from the outside and have to pay a little more in salary than existing staff we always look at what that means overall and if we should adjust their wages to avoid a large disparity. I imagine if Richards signs it will fit within a framework the club now has for contracts, and if a shift in that framework is required because of the new TV deal for example then everyone benefits.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: OCD on June 12, 2015, 03:19:38 PM
Even if the figure was correct it would probably be including a signing bonus.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: The Man With A Stick on June 12, 2015, 03:26:51 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villadelph on June 12, 2015, 03:29:51 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: LeeB on June 12, 2015, 03:34:32 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?

In the physio? Is he a tonton?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 12, 2015, 03:44:30 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Eh? Over he years Wenger's signed way worse defenders than Vlaar for lots of money.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villadelph on June 12, 2015, 03:44:41 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?

In the physio? Is he a tonton?

If I knew what a 'tonton' was I could probably answer that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 12, 2015, 03:52:40 PM
Reading that DM interview, it's very encouraging to hear him say how tactically he's improved in Italy. We'll need some leadership and organisation back there, not that we've had a great deal over the last few seasons.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Risso on June 12, 2015, 04:05:31 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?

In the physio? Is he a tonton?

If I knew what a 'tonton' was I could probably answer that.

I'm going to have a guess that it's rhyming slang, i.e. Tonton Macoute = fruit = homosexual.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 12, 2015, 04:11:27 PM
From "Concrete" Ron to "Formica" Richards - lets hope he is made of sterner stuff
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: CT Villan on June 12, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
I would hope that he still has the winning mentality that he developed at City too. Could be another leader on the pitch.

A good signing for us...just a shame we missed out on Milner to complete the City hat-trick.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: OCD on June 12, 2015, 04:43:25 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?

In the physio? Is he a tonton?

If I knew what a 'tonton' was I could probably answer that.

I'm going to have a guess that it's rhyming slang, i.e. Tonton Macoute = fruit = homosexual.

I think he's talking about that creature in Empire Strikes Back that has it's stomach cut open and used for warmth.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: mr underhill on June 12, 2015, 04:52:44 PM
a neat trick but one that plays havoc with the sheets, even on a boil wash
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: KRS on June 12, 2015, 05:18:10 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Eh? Over he years Wenger's signed way worse defenders than Vlaar for lots of money.
I doubt Wenger would sign Vlaar...its just media bullshit at the moment.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 12, 2015, 05:37:53 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal then....FFS
Keep it down...Anything that weakens one of our rivals next season is good news!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Witton Warrior on June 12, 2015, 05:57:56 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?

In the physio? Is he a tonton?

If I knew what a 'tonton' was I could probably answer that.

I'm going to have a guess that it's rhyming slang, i.e. Tonton Macoute = fruit = homosexual.

I think he's talking about that creature in Empire Strikes Back that has it's stomach cut open and used for warmth.

Thought it was pronounced torn-torn?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 12, 2015, 06:12:11 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Eh? Over he years Wenger's signed way worse defenders than Vlaar for lots of money.
I doubt Wenger would sign Vlaar...its just media bullshit at the moment.

That may well be the case. My point was if he did it would hardly signal the start of the end of his days as manager there.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Risso on June 12, 2015, 06:24:43 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?

In the physio? Is he a tonton?

If I knew what a 'tonton' was I could probably answer that.

I'm going to have a guess that it's rhyming slang, i.e. Tonton Macoute = fruit = homosexual.

I think he's talking about that creature in Empire Strikes Back that has it's stomach cut open and used for warmth.

You're probably right.  In which case I've just invented a high brow rhyming slang insult for gays.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: LeeB on June 12, 2015, 06:37:33 PM
Vlaar to Arsenal?  Seriously?  Jesus wept.  Expect Wenger's head on a stick by Christmas.

Is there space for him in the physio?

In the physio? Is he a tonton?

If I knew what a 'tonton' was I could probably answer that.

I'm going to have a guess that it's rhyming slang, i.e. Tonton Macoute = fruit = homosexual.

You have a wonderfully vivid imagination for a bean counter.

No, it's the creature in Star Wars that Luke is forced to cut open and climb inside in order to save his arse on the ice planet Hoth.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Bad English on June 12, 2015, 06:40:27 PM
Tonton is also what kids call their "oncle" (uncle) in France. They also say "tata" for "auntie".

So, tata would be " brown ha.. [That's enough homophobic insults. Ed]"
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: TheMalandro on June 12, 2015, 07:18:48 PM
Do I have to be careful saying tonton?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villadelph on June 12, 2015, 07:20:23 PM
A bored forum we are.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Nelson Lodge on June 12, 2015, 07:24:35 PM
His height is put at 1.80 metres that is a shade under 5ft 11inches. If the intention is to play him at centre half then that appears to be on the short side for a centre back in the modern game IMO.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave on June 12, 2015, 07:25:58 PM
His height is put at 1.80 metres that is a shade under 5ft 11inches. If the intention is to play him at centre half then that appears to be on the short side for a centre back in the modern game IMO.
Fabio Cannavaro - 5ft 9in.

Not saying that Micah Richards is Fabio Cannavaro or owt though.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Nelson Lodge on June 12, 2015, 07:36:20 PM
Quote from: Nelson Lodge on Today at 06:24:35 PM
His height is put at 1.80 metres that is a shade under 5ft 11inches. If the intention is to play him at centre half then that appears to be on the short side for a centre back in the modern game IMO.
Fabio Cannavaro - 5ft 9in.

Not saying that Micah Richards is Fabio Cannavaro or owt though.Quote from: Nelson Lodge on Today at 06:24:35 PM

Don't think he played in the Premier did he? I think a lack of height could be a problem in this league that is all. Especially at set pieces which so many managers love. Recall the old adage "a good big one will beat a good little one".
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: brontebilly on June 12, 2015, 07:39:39 PM
Reading that DM interview, it's very encouraging to hear him say how tactically he's improved in Italy. We'll need some leadership and organisation back there, not that we've had a great deal over the last few seasons.

he had plenty of time for studying tactics while on Fiorentina's bench or in the stands as he spent the most of last season.

he has made 19 league starts in three years

his most noteworthy contribution in that time was his demand for a special medal - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/379324/EXCLUSIVE-Manchester-City-to-make-Micah-Richards-a-special-Premier-League-winners-medal

I guess I would be in the underwhelmed camp re this signing
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave on June 12, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
Don't think he played in the Premier did he? I think a lack of height could be a problem in this league that is all. Especially at set pieces which so many managers love. Recall the old adage "a good big one will beat a good little one".

He didn't, but I'm pretty sure that as a central defender he would have had to deal with a tall striker here and there and seemed to do alright with it.

Crosses and corners happen in other leagues and in international football as well as in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: paul_e on June 12, 2015, 07:56:32 PM
The key is that, at his best, Richards has a hell of a leap on him which makes up for him being slightly on the short side.  If he can stay fit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 12, 2015, 08:06:10 PM
We need someone who can raise the bar amongst the squad and especially the back line. Richards can do that and he's a leader.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Yossarian on June 12, 2015, 08:13:59 PM
We need someone who can raise the bar amongst the squad and especially the back line. Richards can do that and he's a leader.

I don't want any of our defenders raising the bar; it makes it easier for the opposition to score.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: rafter on June 12, 2015, 08:46:53 PM
He's having a medical on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 13, 2015, 12:50:43 AM
He is very fast and physically very strong.  Both these factors more than compensate for his apparent lack of height.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villan from luton on June 13, 2015, 01:01:26 AM
He is superb in the air, load of tosh. Still cannot believe some Villa fans are thinking he is not a good signing, he is a class player and seems a winner to me
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 13, 2015, 02:03:59 AM
He is superb in the air, load of tosh. Still cannot believe some Villa fans are thinking he is not a good signing, he is a class player and seems a winner to me

In which case, lock the thread.

Definitive judgement has been reached.

Thanks for letting us know.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 13, 2015, 08:30:06 AM
Anyone remember Tosh Lines from The Bill?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 13, 2015, 08:36:27 AM
We need someone who can raise the bar amongst the squad and especially the back line. Richards can do that and he's a leader.
Sorry but where and how has he proved that?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ads on June 13, 2015, 08:40:23 AM
He's always seemed very vocal on the park and we know he's a winner, because he's got the medals to back it up. I agree with Silhill in that respect.

The more mentally strong players we can have out there, of genuine quality like Richards, the better.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 13, 2015, 08:50:09 AM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Nastylee on June 13, 2015, 09:07:32 AM
Given his playing history and where the club is placed currently then this is a good signing. Only his injury record can spoil it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clark W Griswold on June 13, 2015, 09:13:45 AM
Its certainly one that you can't guarantee will go well, but fingers crossed. Is a total outlay of around £12m over four years (for arguments sake) really that much of a risk these days for a 26 year old former England international defender who i think we would all agree looked like one of the best young defenders in the league a few years back?
He has time on his side, unlike Joe Cole who we signed last summer, and could play for us for the best part of a decade if it goes well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: claret and blue blood on June 13, 2015, 09:19:42 AM
Our new McGrath ?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 13, 2015, 09:40:51 AM
Our new McGrath ?

I'd say he's more like McGrath, Laursen, James Cowan and Frank Barson rolled into one.

But I agree with olaftab, let's not hype him up too much.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 13, 2015, 09:42:33 AM
Our new McGrath ?
seriously?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: john e on June 13, 2015, 09:44:50 AM
Our new McGrath ?
seriously?

Rory
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: nigel on June 13, 2015, 10:29:50 AM
Anyone remember Tosh Lines from The Bill?

Lived in Ashbourne, Derbyshire.

Bumped into him there once, and all I managed was 'Alright, mate' 
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Damo70 on June 13, 2015, 10:30:32 AM
Our new McGrath ?
seriously?

Rory







Lloyd? This should be on time wasters. Name a McGrath......
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 13, 2015, 10:34:05 AM
Kip
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 13, 2015, 10:56:14 AM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.

I am pretty much in agreement with Aftab. Richards may see this as a chance to be a key player instead of a benchie, delivering on that potential we saw 8-9 years ago. He could also turn out to be the next David Bentley.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Chris Smith on June 13, 2015, 11:08:37 AM
Our new McGrath ?

I'd say he's more like McGrath, Laursen, James Cowan and Frank Barson rolled into one.

But I agree with olaftab, let's not hype him up too much.

Same here. He is strong and quick but to my mind has never looked particularly comfortable with the ball at his feet.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: footyskillz on June 13, 2015, 11:34:16 AM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.

I am pretty much in agreement with Aftab. Richards may see this as a chance to be a key player instead of a benchie, delivering on that potential we saw 8-9 years ago. He could also turn out to be the next David Bentley.

You mean Kieron Dyer not Bentley
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: footyskillz on June 13, 2015, 11:35:12 AM
Our new McGrath ?

You mean ugo ehiogouo not God
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 13, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.

I am pretty much in agreement with Aftab. Richards may see this as a chance to be a key player instead of a benchie, delivering on that potential we saw 8-9 years ago. He could also turn out to be the next David Bentley.

You mean Kieron Dyer not Bentley

No, I mean Bentley. A player of talent who made over 100 appearances by his early 20s but who then just petered out.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Tony Erdington on June 13, 2015, 12:56:01 PM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.

I am pretty much in agreement with Aftab. Richards may see this as a chance to be a key player instead of a benchie, delivering on that potential we saw 8-9 years ago. He could also turn out to be the next David Bentley.

You mean Kieron Dyer not Bentley

No, I mean Bentley. A player of talent who made over 100 appearances by his early 20s but who then just petered out.


yes , that's what I knew you meant. he went to spurs with all the hype and er nothing, remember that well
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Godfrey Brian on June 13, 2015, 01:18:34 PM
He's a step in the right direction and, as a sign of intent is a solid early buy. I think he'll strengthen us at the back and could be a good long term acquisition.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 13, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
If he shows the same attitude and application as Scott Sinclair then we will be making a good signing. Sometimes players just need to get to a point of maturity where they realize what they have is a pretty good deal and want to make the most of what is left. Playing careers aren't forever and players who want to make the most of it understand it at different points along the way or they never get it and waste it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: footyskillz on June 13, 2015, 02:07:47 PM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.

I am pretty much in agreement with Aftab. Richards may see this as a chance to be a key player instead of a benchie, delivering on that potential we saw 8-9 years ago. He could also turn out to be the next David Bentley.

You mean Kieron Dyer not Bentley

No, I mean Bentley. A player of talent who made over 100 appearances by his early 20s but who then just petered out.

Kieron Dyer played similar role that of right back for England. He had injuries like Richards had. He made his England debut at young age like richards
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: footyskillz on June 13, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
If he shows the same attitude and application as Scott Sinclair then we will be making a good signing. Sometimes players just need to get to a point of maturity where they realize what they have is a pretty good deal and want to make the most of what is left. Playing careers aren't forever and players who want to make the most of it either never get it or understand it at different points along the way.

This
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 13, 2015, 04:58:56 PM
Sorry if old

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/12/micah-richards-aston-villa-medical-manchester-city

Quality player good age. Was instrumental in winning the league. Picked us over other clubs and we seem to be paying premier league wages.

I am genuinely delighted.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: CJ on June 13, 2015, 05:18:50 PM
Sorry if old

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/12/micah-richards-aston-villa-medical-manchester-city

Quality player good age. Was instrumental in winning the league. Picked us over other clubs and we seem to be paying premier league wages.

I am genuinely delighted.

Agreed. Except for the sorry if old bit  ;)
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Quiet Lion on June 13, 2015, 05:26:07 PM
People are going well over board here, like it is some kind of massive coup. There is a reason why it has been reported that only Sunderland completed for his signature.

We have basically signed Earl Barrett as far as I am concerned. Good athlete, poor footballer.

Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 13, 2015, 05:32:06 PM
People are going well over board here, like it is some kind of massive coup. There is a reason why it has been reported that only Sunderland completed for his signature.

We have basically signed Earl Barrett as far as I am concerned. Good athlete, poor footballer.

And Internazionale & West Ham. How true it all is I have no idea but it has been reported those other clubs were turned down by him.

Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 13, 2015, 05:54:39 PM
Not even i'd turn down Inter for us.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villadelph on June 13, 2015, 06:49:56 PM
People are going well over board here, like it is some kind of massive coup. There is a reason why it has been reported that only Sunderland completed for his signature.

We have basically signed Earl Barrett as far as I am concerned. Good athlete, poor footballer.

 ::)
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 13, 2015, 06:58:25 PM
Barrett was ace.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: supertom on June 13, 2015, 07:00:24 PM
Richards has captained Man City in the past. I think he's the right sort of character for us. He's come from good, winning sides too. I think he'll have the sort of mentality we need in our new signings.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on June 13, 2015, 07:11:18 PM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.

I am pretty much in agreement with Aftab. Richards may see this as a chance to be a key player instead of a benchie, delivering on that potential we saw 8-9 years ago. He could also turn out to be the next David Bentley.

You mean Kieron Dyer not Bentley

No, I mean Bentley. A player of talent who made over 100 appearances by his early 20s but who then just petered out.

Kieron Dyer played similar role that of right back for England. He had injuries like Richards had. He made his England debut at young age like richards
I don't remember Dyer playing right back...midfield surely?

When not trying to punch Lee Bowyer.
:D
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: myf on June 13, 2015, 07:51:34 PM
People are going well over board here, like it is some kind of massive coup. There is a reason why it has been reported that only Sunderland completed for his signature.

We have basically signed Earl Barrett as far as I am concerned. Good athlete, poor footballer.



You'll never beat Earl barrett
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Holte L2 on June 13, 2015, 10:06:16 PM
Barrett was ace.

Barrett was ace!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Diablo on June 13, 2015, 10:53:34 PM
Barrett was ace.

Barrett was ace!

Yep Barrett was ace! Really nice guy too.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 13, 2015, 10:56:18 PM
I wonder how things would have panned out if BFR had fancied Barrett as a central defender.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 13, 2015, 11:02:40 PM
Earl Barrett instead of Shaun Teale and Dariusz Kubicki at right back?

Would either have been a stroke of genius or a disaster.  I can't decide which.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: TheMalandro on June 13, 2015, 11:11:14 PM
I always liked Earl. We've certainly had much worse in the last ten years.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: darren woolley on June 14, 2015, 12:28:12 AM
I would be happy for us to sign Richards.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: tomd2103 on June 14, 2015, 12:58:04 AM
I wonder how things would have panned out if BFR had fancied Barrett as a central defender.

Played for Oldham at CB before he came to us if I remember correctly. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villan from luton on June 14, 2015, 01:00:42 AM
I would love Micah Richards in our team, he is far far better than we have be it RB. CB or even defensive mid .
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 14, 2015, 01:08:04 AM
I wonder how things would have panned out if BFR had fancied Barrett as a central defender.

Played for Oldham at CB before he came to us if I remember correctly. 

He was signed as a centre back, probably as Paul McGrath's replacement but he refused to get old.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 14, 2015, 01:59:02 AM
I'm sure he's a blue nose.  But I welcome him nonetheless.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: CT Villan on June 14, 2015, 02:35:50 AM
Richards is a self-confessed gooner...

"I was a big Ian Wright fan when I was younger, so I supported Arsenal.
"Wright and Patrick Vieira were my idols so if the opportunity came to play for them one day I'd take it."
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 14, 2015, 03:28:05 AM
Well nobody is perfect.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave on June 14, 2015, 09:34:54 AM
I would love Micah Richards in our team, he is far far better than we have be it RB. CB or even defensive mid .
Has he ever played defensive midfield in his life?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 14, 2015, 09:44:17 AM
I wonder how things would have panned out if BFR had fancied Barrett as a central defender.

Played for Oldham at CB before he came to us if I remember correctly. 

He was signed as a centre back, probably as Paul McGrath's replacement but he refused to get old.

Barrett spent most of his time at right back the epitome of the square peg in the round hole. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: olaftab on June 14, 2015, 09:51:47 AM
I would be happy for us to sign Richards.
Thank you Darren. Can we , now, stop debating this please.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: JJ-AV on June 14, 2015, 10:08:47 AM
I'm sure he's a blue nose.  But I welcome him nonetheless.

Micah Richards isn't from Birmingham, you only have to hear him speak to know he's not.

I recall rumours on the messageboards back when we were decent and he was breaking through about how he's a Villa fan and a Brummie - all seemingly based on his Wikipedia page stating he was born in Birmingham. I can recall an interview with him where he explained he was just born here; he's never lived here, he's a Leeds lad and supported Arsenal as a boy.

I think an element of it was confusion with Sturridge, he was at Man City at the time, similarly hyped and really is from Birmingham (and had spent time at Villa as a kid).
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: JJ-AV on June 14, 2015, 10:13:17 AM
I have no problem with this signing and should improve us but let's not hype him up too much. I have seen no evidence of leadership or winner mentality from him. He may have "won" a medal as being part of a very very talented squad but he was quite happy to sit on his arse (apart from loan spell with Fiorentina)  and see out his his lucrative contract with city and that's not leadership.

He was absolutely fantastic in the year they won the title for the first time, I think it was 2011-12. I remember as I was in my last year at Uni. at the time, and I was mates with a Man City fan - Richards got injured towards the latter third of the season and Mancini put Zabaleta in for the run-in, as it looked like they'd let the title slip it was one of the (many) criticisms Mancini was getting for dropping the best right-back in the country. Man Utd blew it and it was all forgotten.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: tomd2103 on June 14, 2015, 10:17:20 AM
I wonder how things would have panned out if BFR had fancied Barrett as a central defender.

Played for Oldham at CB before he came to us if I remember correctly. 

He was signed as a centre back, probably as Paul McGrath's replacement but he refused to get old.

Barrett spent most of his time at right back the epitome of the square peg in the round hole.

Bit harsh, as although he was not the greatest on the ball or going forward, he was still solid in that position (as Ryan Giggs used to attest to). 
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 14, 2015, 11:26:38 AM
I would be happy for us to sign Richards.

And for this reason, I'm in.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 14, 2015, 06:13:01 PM
I would be happy for us to sign Richards.

And for this reason, I'm in.

Once his agent see this he's ours.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villan from luton on June 14, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
I would love Micah Richards in our team, he is far far better than we have be it RB. CB or even defensive mid .
Has he ever played defensive midfield in his life?

He played there against Spuds in the Europa thing last season. Mate who is so one eyed even admitted he was the best player on the pitch by far
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: warleyboy on June 15, 2015, 10:29:17 AM
I wonder if he is possibly coming to us because TS has promised him the RB position.
I'd rather see him as a CB, unless Timmy has someone else in mind?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 15, 2015, 03:53:16 PM
He is garbage at CB though.
I think it's a good signing, would be a step up from the standard we were getting last season for example.
 
The bloke is 26/27 so still a decent age and someone who if he does have a couple of good seasons and gets back in for England we could sell for 5-6m.
 
Clearly Sherwood wants attacking FBs so he obviously fits into that.
 
If he dosen't come here, he'll probably go to a Stoke or West Ham and do fine.

At right back for our current level, can we really complain? He was a regular for a title winning team three years ago.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 15, 2015, 04:55:04 PM
I like him centre-half. Keep Bacuna right back. It's exciting.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 15, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
Question, Will he improve the team?

Answer. Yes.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 15, 2015, 05:54:49 PM
I like him centre-half. Keep Bacuna right back. It's exciting.

I would probably describe it as nerve wracking (as opposed to Hutton who is generally nerve wrecking)
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 15, 2015, 07:49:14 PM
Coward!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Villafirst on June 16, 2015, 02:03:42 PM
Seems to have gone quiet - any news of medical today?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 16, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Has this fallen through ? Should we go into panic mode yet
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave on June 16, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
Has this fallen through ? Should we go into panic mode yet
Do you have any other modes?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: LeeB on June 16, 2015, 05:07:51 PM
Has this fallen through ? Should we go into panic mode yet
Do you have any other modes?

lolorama
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: class-of-82 on June 16, 2015, 05:54:10 PM
My mate seen him at the one stop today so it's still on
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 16, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
My mate seen him at the one stop today so it's still on

I'll only believe it if he was buying a discounted Vlaar 4 shirt from JJB.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 16, 2015, 08:03:41 PM
Has this fallen through ? Should we go into panic mode yet
Do you have any other modes?

lolorama

Oi! That's how I lol.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 16, 2015, 08:12:21 PM
My mate seen him at the one stop today so it's still on
Incog reckons he's in DXB
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villadelph on June 16, 2015, 09:18:26 PM
Local forum ITK Rafter (with all of his 4 posts) seems to have deleted his "Medical on Tuesday" post a few pages back.

Hell hath broken loose
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 16, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
Local forum ITK Rafter (with all of his 4 posts) seems to have deleted his "Medical on Tuesday" post a few pages back.

Hell hath broken loose

Sssshhh, ffs, silhill's just over there.....
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 16, 2015, 10:16:50 PM
Saw a friend today who told me her Sam is devastated as Micah Richards is moving to Villa.

Sam is 8 and he's his favourite City player strangely enough. It's the best I've got.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Steve R on June 16, 2015, 10:44:05 PM
I saw a Nissan Micra driving through Dewsbury earlier. #nailedon.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: villadelph on June 17, 2015, 03:11:54 AM
Guys he's favorited a "Are you coming to Villa, please say yes" tweet.

panic averted!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 17, 2015, 04:50:01 AM
Guys he's favorited a "Are you coming to Villa, please say yes" tweet.

panic averted!

Panic .... decreasing.

Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 17, 2015, 08:24:34 AM
I saw a Nissan Micra driving through Dewsbury earlier. #nailedon.

Edited.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 08:47:07 AM
Guys he's favorited a "Are you coming to Villa, please say yes" tweet.

panic averted!
He's got big thumbs though I'd guess ? Maybe he went for delete and haphazardly hit the like button ?
Panic levels maintained .
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: footyskillz on June 17, 2015, 09:55:19 AM
Haha!! Big thumbz up to that joke!
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: charleeco7 on June 17, 2015, 12:42:39 PM
He's signed according to this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11680634/Aston-Villa-manager-Tim-Sherwood-makes-Manchester-City-defender-Micah-Richards-his-first-summer-signing.html
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2015, 12:50:24 PM
Good signing is this.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: TheMalandro on June 17, 2015, 12:50:50 PM
Haha!! Big thumbz up to that joke!

knock knock..
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: ozzjim on June 17, 2015, 12:52:47 PM
Good signing is this.

Pleased he is here we are.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 17, 2015, 01:00:27 PM
Welcome to the Home of Football, Micah.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 17, 2015, 01:25:50 PM
Good signing is this.

I read that in a Yoda voice in my head.

At last some much needed quality at the back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Pete on June 17, 2015, 01:31:22 PM
According to the Guardian he'll be playing at centre-half rather than fullback.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
According to the Guardian he'll be playing at centre-half rather than fullback.
Vlaar replacement I'd guess
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Richard E on June 17, 2015, 01:44:14 PM
According to the Guardian he'll be playing at centre-half rather than fullback.
Vlaar replacement I'd guess

Hopefully.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave on June 17, 2015, 01:46:29 PM
He's signed according to this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11680634/Aston-Villa-manager-Tim-Sherwood-makes-Manchester-City-defender-Micah-Richards-his-first-summer-signing.html

I'm sure that it'll happen and that he'll sign for us, but that just says that he has agreed to sign for us and that the club will announce the signing at some point.

Which (apart from the fact that a medical might have taken place) isn't really anything more than the article that PWS started this thread with a week ago.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 17, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
According to the Guardian he'll be playing at centre-half rather than fullback.
Vlaar replacement I'd guess

Hopefully.
So not only are they able to announce the signing before anyone at the club has even hinted that it might be happening, but they now know where Sherwood's planning on playing him.

For all those worried about Okore only being a whisker over 6', how does Richards improve on that.

I'd personally say that a back line of

Richards - Okore - Clark - Richardson / A.N.Other would be better defensively than what we lined up with for most of last season.

The Okore / Clark partnership seemed from (my these days fallible) memory to coincide with one of our better spells, until injuries caught up with us again.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 17, 2015, 01:59:19 PM
He is out of contract and contracts (IIRC) run from July 1st to July 1st. Out of contract players can agree a deal with new club up to 6 months prior to current contract ending so I assume officially he will sign on July 1st
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Pete on June 17, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
According to the Guardian he'll be playing at centre-half rather than fullback.
Vlaar replacement I'd guess

Hopefully.
So not only are they able to announce the signing before anyone at the club has even hinted that it might be happening, but they now know where Sherwood's planning on playing him.


There are no direct quotes but it reads like they've spoken to someone at the club, it says that Sherwood was tempted because Richards can play at centre half, and that Richards likes the idea. Daniel Taylor is a reputable journalist, I doubt he'd just make it up . Why would he?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 17, 2015, 02:10:11 PM
Pro's

Very athletic
Was only replaced at Citeh by a world class player in Zabaletta
Winning mentality
Very strong defensively (or he was before he disappeared)
Former England international who will have the chance to show the world what he is made of and possibly get his place back

Cons

He did seemingly disappear for a good while
Not sure what he is like once over the half way line - Bacuna cannot defend but adds something to our attack
Without being too pessimistic I would have thought he would be coveted by those further up the food chain
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Ryu on June 17, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
I think I'd rather see him as a marauding full back than a centre half but if he's still got the pace and power he had when he first came through he could be a useful addition.  I'm not sure I'd like to see the Clark and Okore partnership broken up, though.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Dave on June 17, 2015, 02:16:26 PM
He is out of contract and contracts (IIRC) run from July 1st to July 1st. Out of contract players can agree a deal with new club up to 6 months prior to current contract ending so I assume officially he will sign on July 1st

Liverpool have announced the signings of Milner, Bogdan and Ings, all of whom are in the same position as Richards contract-wise.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 17, 2015, 02:20:13 PM
He is out of contract and contracts (IIRC) run from July 1st to July 1st. Out of contract players can agree a deal with new club up to 6 months prior to current contract ending so I assume officially he will sign on July 1st

Liverpool have announced the signings of Milner, Bogdan and Ings, all of whom are in the same position as Richards contract-wise.

Just goes to show I know fuck all :(
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 17, 2015, 02:21:55 PM
Welcome Micah, very glad to have you here.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: TheMalandro on June 17, 2015, 03:01:03 PM
He is out of contract and contracts (IIRC) run from July 1st to July 1st. Out of contract players can agree a deal with new club up to 6 months prior to current contract ending so I assume officially he will sign on July 1st

Liverpool have announced the signings of Milner, Bogdan and Ings, all of whom are in the same position as Richards contract-wise.

Just goes to show I know fuck all :(

Join the club
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 17, 2015, 03:06:02 PM
My memory is hazy, but I remember him being quite good at right-back, and dire at centre-half.

Hopefully he's improved since then.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: dekko on June 17, 2015, 04:04:41 PM
This line in the guardian article caught my eye:

 
Quote
Sunderland had also spoken to him at length about joining them as a centre-back and there was interest from Everton and West Ham in the player

I feel a bit better knowing that Sherwood isn't the only person who thinks he can be a CB
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Smirker on June 17, 2015, 04:08:40 PM
Happy with this.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: OCD on June 17, 2015, 05:08:25 PM
Spending a year in Italy should have improved his defensive game.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Tuscans on June 17, 2015, 05:17:19 PM
I think Clark is nailed on as first choice CB. I think Tim really likes him and looked absolutely gutted when he came off at Spurs. Fair play to him as I thought he wasn't going to make it 3-4 seasons ago but he's impressed me tons the last 2 seasons, really matured as a defender.

I still think Richards will play at right back, it's definitely his best position in my opinion. As for Okore I believe he'll warm the bench and be used when necessary. I think the injury obviously knocked his progression back a year and isn't quite ready tactically, he has a Dunne in him every game.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Tuscans on June 17, 2015, 05:18:52 PM
Where's the Micah in a Villa shirt pics from the site?
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on June 17, 2015, 05:25:52 PM
I'd be concerned if Richards is our first choice centre back.

As a contender for right back and a back-up centre back, I think he's a great signing for us; but if he's been guaranteed Okore's place, I'd be concerned.

I suppose the other option is that he's a centre back in a 3 man central defence.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on June 17, 2015, 05:29:30 PM
OFFICIAL:

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4800877,00.html

Quote
Aston Villa Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Micah Richards.

The 26-year-old defender has agreed a four-year deal with the club and will join on a free transfer on July 1.

Richards will arrive at Villa Park following the expiry of his contact with Manchester City after a one-year loan deal in Italy with Fiorentina.

He helped City win the Barclays Premier League and FA Cup and has played in the Champions League.

He has also represented England on 13 occasions to date.

Manager Tim Sherwood said: "I'm really pleased to get Micah on board and I'm sure he will prove to be an excellent signing for the football club."
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 17, 2015, 05:31:42 PM
Spending a year in Italy should have improved his defensive game.

Agreed. Even though he never played that much, the day to day training will have been a massive education.

Welcome, Micah.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: warleyboy on June 17, 2015, 05:33:32 PM
Welcome Micah, looking forward to seeing you in the claret and blue.
This really is an exciting and quality signing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 17, 2015, 05:33:43 PM
Quote
Aston Villa Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Micah Richards.

The 26-year-old defender has agreed a four-year deal with the club and will join on a free transfer on July 1.

Richards will arrive at Villa Park following the expiry of his contract with Manchester City after a one-year loan deal in Italy with Fiorentina.

He helped City win the Barclays Premier League and FA Cup and has played in the Champions League.

He has also represented England on 13 occasions to date.

Manager Tim Sherwood said: "I'm really pleased to get Micah on board and I'm sure he will prove to be an excellent signing for the football club."
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Clampy on June 17, 2015, 05:33:51 PM
He's officially signed.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 05:36:35 PM
Excellent , I see him possibly ousting Okore out who lets face it seems to make at least one kamikaze error per game. Hutton can nail down the RB berth .
We still need a LB .
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on June 17, 2015, 05:41:32 PM
Decent start to the summer.

Well done all concerned.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: warleyboy on June 17, 2015, 05:45:54 PM
Excellent , I see him possibly ousting Okore out who lets face it seems to make at least one kamikaze error per game. Hutton can nail down the RB berth .
We still need a LB .

He does make some butt clenching errors, but I'm hoping Micah could maybe show him the ropes a little, they may be a great pairing if Micah is to play CB.
With a stronger RB and LB, okore maybe a really good player.

I really think he could be quality, he is still very young, fingers crossed for an LB next.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: eamonn on June 17, 2015, 05:48:42 PM
Couldn't even be arsed to stretch the shirt? Bodymoor closed or Bodymoor open it's no excuse. Sort it, Richards.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave shelley on June 17, 2015, 05:49:37 PM
Welcome Micah, I wish you a great career at the Villa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: l_mckay on June 17, 2015, 05:52:48 PM
Pleased it's finally done. Good player and plenty of experience!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
Very much a step in the right direction. Ci£y fans rate him highly which says a lot when you see the talent they've had these past few years.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: waspy on June 17, 2015, 06:04:44 PM
Man City fan here. Pleased that Micah is back in the prem and hope he rediscovers the form he had before his knee injury at the start of the 2012/13 season. He played 30 games in our prem winning season 2011/12 and made 5 assists bombing forward from full back. Just unfortunate for him that Pablo Zabaleta took his chance and never let go of the right back spot.
Prior to Joleon Lescott joining he played centre half for three seasons alongside Richard Dunne or Vincent Kompany. Very quick, a huge leap, reading of the game got better with age.
One downside is his ever present injury niggles, hopefully he can get over these.

Good luck to him and I hope he is a success at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 17, 2015, 06:07:58 PM
Man City fan here. Pleased that Micah is back in the prem and hope he rediscovers the form he had before his knee injury at the start of the 2012/13 season. He played 30 games in our prem winning season 2011/12 and made 5 assists bombing forward from full back. Just unfortunate for him that Pablo Zabaleta took his chance and never let go of the right back spot.
Prior to Joleon Lescott joining he played centre half for three seasons alongside Richard Dunne or Vincent Kompany. Very quick, a huge leap, reading of the game got better with age.
One downside is his ever present injury niggles, hopefully he can get over these.

Good luck to him and I hope he is a success at Villa Park.
Cheers Waspy. UTV
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on June 17, 2015, 06:25:43 PM
I hope Tim intends to play him at right back, not saying he can't play in the middle but he's very good running the line - as WASPy said.

Nice to have you on here.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 17, 2015, 06:31:24 PM
Manchester fans showing their love and respect..

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/thank-you-micah-and-good-luck.313286/
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: UK Redsox on June 17, 2015, 07:21:43 PM
So, what now for the Scottish Cafu?

His contract extension looked strange at the time and even more so now
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tony Erdington on June 17, 2015, 07:25:58 PM
Very much a step in the right direction. Ci£y fans rate him highly which says a lot when you see the talent they've had these past few years.

Sorry but them twats rated Ireland as well, and he was exceptional  :o

lets hope he gets the splinters out of his arse and can produce a bit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: UK Redsox on June 17, 2015, 07:28:57 PM
Yep, Citeh owe us one after the bloke with eight grandmothers
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 07:31:16 PM
So, what now for the Scottish Cafu?

His contract extension looked strange at the time and even more so now
Cafu RB, Micah in middle with Clark .
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: Louzie0 on June 17, 2015, 07:38:09 PM
He's officially signed.
Now that is great news. Welcome, Micah, really looking forward to seeing you in the team next season. UTV!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Walmley_Villa on June 17, 2015, 07:47:04 PM
What is wrong with competition in positions? Something we have moaned about in the past. Great free signing. NEXT!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 17, 2015, 07:51:56 PM
So, what now for the Scottish Cafu?

His contract extension looked strange at the time and even more so now
I think the New Bomb Squad awaits, he will have plenty of company.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on June 17, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
Good signing for the small risk involved. I just get the feeling that behind the scenes there really is a deal in the making and we will get good new owners, Delph signing, Richards being attracted, it wouldn't happen without a brighter future next season would it?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 17, 2015, 08:10:38 PM
Reported £65k a week 4 years. £13m then.

Thought it was a free ;)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villafirst on June 17, 2015, 08:19:48 PM
I get the feeling that some people would rather we pay £15-20k a week for more Bennetts and Lowtons. Get over it! £65k a week is the going rate if you want to up the class of your squad. Ffs Rooney is on £250k a week!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: citizenDJ on June 17, 2015, 08:29:24 PM
Really good signing this, I think. He's a good player and easily better than some of those we have.

I remember him predominantly as a right-back but I'm pretty sure i've seen him do well at centre-back too. If we do end up playing him and Okore together at centre-back, that's a pretty rapid pair of defenders which could come in handy. If we play three of them, then he, Okore and Clark would be pretty solid too.

Good start to business.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 08:32:29 PM
Is he the only member of our squad with -
CL experience
PL winners medal
FA cup winners medal
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 17, 2015, 08:35:07 PM
I'm very happy with this signing. Welcome. UTV.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: eamonn on June 17, 2015, 08:36:16 PM
So, what now for the Scottish Cafu?

His contract extension looked strange at the time and even more so now
I think the New Bomb Squad awaits, he will have plenty of company.

I hope so but doubt it. Richards won't play at right-back. Hutton and the fine recent tradition of Villa right-backs i.e. Carlos Cuellar (when played out of position) holding his limp-wrist out when running, is set to continue.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: themossman on June 17, 2015, 08:38:51 PM
Is there a definitive house view on whether it's Mike-ah or Meek-ah as I've heard both on the radio today and I feel I should be on top of this now he's our player.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 08:40:00 PM
Be interested to see what number he gets.
2 would indicate RB.
4 , 5 or 6 CB ?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: UK Redsox on June 17, 2015, 08:58:06 PM
Nathan "I've been playing an hour so it's time to go down injured" Baker already has number 2

What number did Micah have at MC?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 08:59:39 PM
Nathan "I've been playing an hour so it's time to go down injured" Baker already has number 2

What number did Micah have at MC?
2
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on June 17, 2015, 09:02:43 PM
Is he the only member of our squad with -
CL experience
PL winners medal
FA cup winners medal

Keiran Richardson says hi.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Shrek on June 17, 2015, 09:05:13 PM
I get the feeling that some people would rather we pay £15-20k a week for more Bennetts and Lowtons. Get over it! £65k a week is the going rate if you want to up the class of your squad. Ffs Rooney is on £250k a week!

So everyone above us will be paying higher wages than us then..
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on June 17, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
Is he the only member of our squad with -
CL experience
PL winners medal
FA cup winners medal

Keiran Richardson says hi.

FA Cup?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on June 17, 2015, 09:09:04 PM
Is he the only member of our squad with -
CL experience
PL winners medal
FA cup winners medal

Keiran Richardson says hi.

FA Cup?

Yeah ok he won the wrong domestic cup but it's close enough. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on June 17, 2015, 09:10:05 PM
Manchester fans showing their love and respect..

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/thank-you-micah-and-good-luck.313286/

A real love fest. I'm also surprised a club higher up didn't nab him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 17, 2015, 09:11:44 PM
Is he the only member of our squad with -
CL experience
PL winners medal
FA cup winners medal

Keiran Richardson says hi.
Cole?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on June 17, 2015, 09:12:15 PM
Senderos?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 17, 2015, 09:14:53 PM
I get the feeling that some people would rather we pay £15-20k a week for more Bennetts and Lowtons. Get over it! £65k a week is the going rate if you want to up the class of your squad. Ffs Rooney is on £250k a week!

Agree with this. What do people want? Proven premier league player looking to get back on track, attainable international aspirations, coming from cit£h; 65k seems a relative snip.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: manic-road on June 17, 2015, 09:27:37 PM
Welcome to the Villa Micah, I hope you have a great career in claret and blue.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on June 17, 2015, 09:34:00 PM
Is he the only member of our squad with -
CL experience
PL winners medal
FA cup winners medal

Keiran Richardson says hi.
Cole?

True, I didn't get that far, I start with the goalkeepers and then went to left backs.  Given has played in CL (for Newcastle) and got an FA cup (Man City) as well, just never quite managed to get the league title despite being in a few teams who challenged (I think he got 2 or 3 runners up spots).
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on June 17, 2015, 09:34:08 PM
Good shout joe Cole has the set
Senderos hasn't won PL
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on June 17, 2015, 10:09:59 PM
Which all serves to show that we do have a decent amount of GOOD experience in the squad and we have some quality who haven't got that experience but have the ability to play for clubs at that level (Benteke, Delph for sure, Grealish in all likelihood and possibly Clark and Okore as well) if we can build out the quality by signing more players like Richards who have the experience but are also young enough to build a squad around then we should be in a much better position.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2015, 10:30:15 PM
Nathan "I've been playing an hour so it's time to go down injured" Baker already has number 2

I think he prefers the moniker Nathan "Oooh, Fuck, Get Me Off, I've Hurt Me Beard" Baker these days.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2015, 10:33:09 PM
Spending a year in Italy should have improved his defensive game.

He hardly got off the bench, so it will at least have improved his Angry Birds game.







ignore me. all the best, Micah.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Richard E on June 17, 2015, 10:36:46 PM
Spending a year in Italy should have improved his defensive game.

He hardly got off the bench, so it will at least have improved his Angry Birds game.







ignore me. all the best, Micah.
By all accounts he's more of a Candy Crush Saga kind of guy.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve kirk on June 17, 2015, 10:38:58 PM
Welcome Micah to our wonderful club.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: nodge on June 17, 2015, 10:45:32 PM
Is there a definitive house view on whether it's Mike-ah or Meek-ah as I've heard both on the radio today and I feel I should be on top of this now he's our player.


He could be brown
He could be blue
He could be violet sky
He could be hurtful
He could be purple
He could be anything you like
Gotta be green
Gotta be mean
Gotta be everything more

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: KRS on June 17, 2015, 10:53:24 PM
Great news to get this deal sorted. Welcome to Villa Park Micah! :)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on June 17, 2015, 11:05:11 PM
Slightly concerned with his injury record, but if we keep him fit he is a quality player.

Welcome Micah
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OCD on June 17, 2015, 11:06:31 PM
Spending a year in Italy should have improved his defensive game.

He hardly got off the bench, so it will at least have improved his Angry Birds game.







ignore me. all the best, Micah.

I was thinking more of the coaching he will have had for a year. And even if it didn't work out for him at centre back, it's pretty clear that he can be an excellent right back. There are questions about his injuries but if there weren't, we probably wouldn't have got him so it seems to have been worth the punt.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on June 17, 2015, 11:18:43 PM
Welcome Micah. We provide England players to order. You'll soon be another one off the production line. Christ, if we can do it for Tomnonymous Cleverly, we can definitely do it for you!!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on June 17, 2015, 11:38:00 PM
Are there really concerns about his injury history from people who have any reason to be concerned? - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/micah-richards/verletzungen/spieler/32617 - that's hardly an unending list of serious injuries, a couple of hamstring injuries will mean that was something they'll have looked at in the medical but otherwise there's very little to worry about in that record.  Being behind the guy who was the best right back in the league for a season and a half and then failing to settle at a foreign club seems to have created a myth that he's been injured a lot more than he has.  What is true is that he's picked up injuries at the worst possible times for him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on June 17, 2015, 11:42:55 PM
Are there really concerns about his injury history from people who have any reason to be concerned? - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/micah-richards/verletzungen/spieler/32617 - that's hardly an unending list of serious injuries, a couple of hamstring injuries will mean that was something they'll have looked at in the medical but otherwise there's very little to worry about in that record.  Being behind the guy who was the best right back in the league for a season and a half and then failing to settle at a foreign club seems to have created a myth that he's been injured a lot more than he has.  What is true is that he's picked up injuries at the worst possible times for him.
The main reason that it seems that a lot of Liverpool fans don't want to sign Benteke is that he is 'injury-prone'. i.e he has had an injury that they have heard about, so assume it's a frequent thing.

I wonder if Richards could be similar.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 17, 2015, 11:58:26 PM
Are there really concerns about his injury history from people who have any reason to be concerned? - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/micah-richards/verletzungen/spieler/32617 - that's hardly an unending list of serious injuries, a couple of hamstring injuries will mean that was something they'll have looked at in the medical but otherwise there's very little to worry about in that record.  Being behind the guy who was the best right back in the league for a season and a half and then failing to settle at a foreign club seems to have created a myth that he's been injured a lot more than he has.  What is true is that he's picked up injuries at the worst possible times for him.
The main reason that it seems that a lot of Liverpool fans don't want to sign Benteke is that he is 'injury-prone'. i.e he has had an injury that they have heard about, so assume it's a frequent thing.

I wonder if Richards could be similar.

Almost certainly.

Nathan Baker, Joe Cole & Ron Vlaar I would describe as injury prone.
You could argue that van Persie and Diego Costa are as well.

Someone who's had one serious knee injury and 2 unrelated hamstring tweaks in the last 4 years? 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on June 18, 2015, 12:09:58 AM
Are there really concerns about his injury history from people who have any reason to be concerned? - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/micah-richards/verletzungen/spieler/32617 - that's hardly an unending list of serious injuries, a couple of hamstring injuries will mean that was something they'll have looked at in the medical but otherwise there's very little to worry about in that record.  Being behind the guy who was the best right back in the league for a season and a half and then failing to settle at a foreign club seems to have created a myth that he's been injured a lot more than he has.  What is true is that he's picked up injuries at the worst possible times for him.
The main reason that it seems that a lot of Liverpool fans don't want to sign Benteke is that he is 'injury-prone'. i.e he has had an injury that they have heard about, so assume it's a frequent thing.

I wonder if Richards could be similar.

Almost certainly.

Nathan Baker, Joe Cole & Ron Vlaar I would describe as injury prone.
You could argue that van Persie and Diego Costa are as well.

Someone who's had one serious knee injury and 2 unrelated hamstring tweaks in the last 4 years? 

Vlaar's record is one that rings alarm bells - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ron-vlaar/verletzungen/spieler/30697 - all those calf injuries in 3 seasons is a huge worry, there's clearly an underlying problem and, wherever he goes next, I'd be amazed if anyone offers him anything more than a 2 year deal, it's just too big a risk.

Baker is an odd one, on paper his record isn't that bad but it's the number of games that he limps off with a dislocated beard or some shit that are the problem.  He also gets his injuries at the worst possible time for the club, which is infuriating.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: The Left Side on June 18, 2015, 03:36:16 AM
Welcome Micah
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt Collins on June 18, 2015, 11:00:21 AM
TS: "He is a player who can play in a number of positions. He can play right-back, centre-half and also in a three man defence so his versatility is another real positive.

Perhaps he is considering three at the back after all. I hope not.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on June 18, 2015, 11:02:48 AM
Not the best-written article in the world, but worth posting nonetheless.

Quote
Micah Richards turns 27 next week, another example of football's innate ability to play tricks on the mind. Where did that fresh-faced defender go? How is he possibly less than five years younger than James Collins? What have we all been doing with our lives?

Richards is still England's youngest ever defender, beating Rio Ferdinand to that honour when called up by Steve McClaren in 2006. Quick, strong and skilful, he started six competitive international matches before turning 20. This was Gary Neville for a new generation, England's answer at right-back. A gem had been unearthed in Manchester, via Oldham.

How quickly exciting potential becomes wasted opportunity. Richards has transformed from tomorrow's answer to yesterday's man. Following his release by Manchester City, the defender has joined Aston Villa on a four-year deal. While his old side compete for the title, Richards seeks regular football at the club who have finished 16th, 15th, 15th and 17th in the last four Premier League seasons.

An England international defender in the prime of his career joining one English club from another should be big news, as the aforementioned Ferdinand can testify. Richards, however, will slip out of a side door at the Etihad, his departure met with neither anguish nor celebration. There is nothing as demeaning as being ignored.

Richards' decline is symbolised by the inevitability of his departure from City. This is a club whose only homegrown options for next season are a first-choice goalkeeper, a 29-year-old French left-back and a 37-year-old goalkeeper whose last Premier League start was in 2007. City were keen to let Richards leave on loan last season, yet Dedryck Boyata made two Premier League appearances.

There was talk of interest from Juventus and Internazionale in Richards last summer, but a move to Fiorentina only served to continue the alarming decline. He started only seven Serie A Matches, criticised by coach Vicenzo Montella in January for his lack of fitness.

"His fitness levels weren't up to scratch," Montella said. "He is more of a full-back in a four-man defence and when he arrived, in my view, his fitness levels weren't up to scratch to sustain that role." Very few in Florence will have mourned his retreat back to the Premier League.

In an interview with the Daily Mail, Richards attempted to improve his PR by claiming disbelief at his lack of minutes in Italy. "I don't know whether it's because I've been on loan and I haven't made a commitment to stay," he said. "No disrespect to the players here, I feel I should have been playing." The article described Richards as a 'football obsessive' and 'renaissance man'. One doth protest too much?

Once renowned for his pace and endeavour to surge forward, disagreements with the views of various managers has become the new hallmark of Richards' career. When Roberto Mancini was City boss, he famously reminded his defender to "remember to pick up his brain".

"He has good quality but sometimes Micah thinks he can play at only 50%," Mancini said. "If Micah plays to 100%, he can become one of the top full-backs in Europe. But he needs to improve. His body is on the pitch, but his mind is left at home sometimes." And that's coming from one of his fans.

Manuel Pellegrini took a harder line, starving Richards of first-team football. Again Richards claims to have been harshly treated, but the council for the defence can simply exclaim 'Pablo Zabaleta' in a loud voice before resting its case. Richards must now hope to pip Alan Hutton for Villa's right-back spot. It's an easier gig.

With 16 league starts since April 2012, the time has surely come for Richards to embark on a period of introspection. Being castigated and ignored by one coach could be considered an anomaly, but three or four suggests that the problem lies at Richards' feet (or should that be mind?). There have been consistent insinuations about his attitude.

A young, English defender. An academy graduate with multiple Premier League winner's medals. An Englishman who was prepared to go abroad. These are characteristics which generate a great deal of goodwill for Richards. A car doesn't start with only goodwill in the tank.

Football is littered with the wretched dimmed light of bright young things, but few Englishmen shone brighter than Micah Richards at the age of 19. Villa Park might not be the end of the line, but it could represent the last chance saloon for a player in dramatic decline when still in his prime.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OCD on June 18, 2015, 11:03:40 AM
TS: "He is a player who can play in a number of positions. He can play right-back, centre-half and also in a three man defence so his versatility is another real positive.

Perhaps he is considering three at the back after all. I hope not.

He also said right back and centre back. So he probably wants a back 4 most of the time but to have the option of switching to a back 3 when the situation requires.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt Collins on June 18, 2015, 01:01:06 PM
Yeah maybe. It's a bit odd to reference though. I mean how many centre backs can't play in a back three?

Also a bit odd that there's nothing from micah himself?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 18, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
Quote
Tim Sherwood has spoken of his delight at the capture of Micah Richards.

And the Villa manager insists the club have landed a player who is coming into his "peak years".

Richards has already won the Premier League and FA Cup, played in the Champions League and represented England at senior level.

Despite this impressive football CV, Sherwood thinks there's still plenty for Richards to achieve as he welcomed him to the claret and blues.

Sherwood also believes his "winning mentality" will be invaluable at Bodymoor Heath.

He said: "I'm really pleased to get Micah on board and I'm sure he will prove to be an excellent signing for the football club.

"Micah is a winner. He helped Manchester City win their first Premier League title in 44 years, has won the FA Cup and has played in the Champions League.

"So we are signing a player who is used to winning football matches. I want players with that winning mentality here.

"And we are also signing a player at his peak.

"At 26, we are getting him when he should be producing the best football of his career."

Sherwood also hailed the versatility of Richards - and spelled out his belief that the defender can get back into the Three Lions shirt if he can perform in B6.

He added: "Micah has played international football for England in the past and if he performs as well as I know he can for Aston Villa then there is no reason why he can't get back to that level again.

"Tom Cleverley's form at the end of the season for us got him back in the England squad so Micah knows he will get a platform here to push for that.

"He is a player who can play in a number of positions. He can play right-back, centre-half and also in a three man defence so his versatility is another real positive.

"When I spoke with Micah it was clear how determined he is to get his career back on track and I've every confidence he will recapture the form and quality he displayed before he moved over to Italy.

"He had a lot of choices but I'm delighted he chose Aston Villa."
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: eamonn on June 18, 2015, 01:24:34 PM
Was it badly-written? It were alright, I thought.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OCD on June 18, 2015, 01:38:42 PM
Yeah maybe. It's a bit odd to reference though. I mean how many centre backs can't play in a back three?

Also a bit odd that there's nothing from micah himself?

You're probably being a bit over-analytical there. It's a natural way of answering a question, you don't dissect what you're about to say before you say it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt Collins on June 19, 2015, 08:20:28 AM
Possibly. Interesting that almost everything i read from people who've watched him a lot says he is vastly better at right back. To the extent that he's not a very good centre back. Happy to see him play there though he isn't going to replicate bacuna's crossing. But that leaves a centre back and left back position to fill (if vlaar goes) before we even get into replacing cleverley or nzogbia. So I'd be surprised if sherwood would have prioritised a right back signing
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on June 19, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Yeah maybe. It's a bit odd to reference though. I mean how many centre backs can't play in a back three?

Also a bit odd that there's nothing from micah himself?

Maybe he's on holiday, who knows.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on June 19, 2015, 09:59:37 AM
Or still traumatised.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Gregorys Boy on June 25, 2015, 10:31:40 AM
If he stays fit then I think its a good signing.  He will add much needed experience to the side and can be a threat going forward as well as strong defending.  I think this is a gamble worth taking considering its a free transfer too.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dr Butler on July 03, 2015, 04:37:29 PM
he's here :) some pictures from the official site...

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4839069,00.html

do us proud Micah

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villadelph on July 03, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
he's here :) some pictures from the official site...

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4839069,00.html

do us proud Micah

UTV
The Doc

Showed up in a fedora.. as did Gueye. If he wasn't build like a fridge I'd poke fun.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 03, 2015, 06:30:13 PM
Ah the traditional quotes about the facilities & training ground. Just once I would giggle if the quote was "He described the facilities as 'fine I suppose, who cares?'"

edit: bloody hell his upper body , he could crush my skull with his bare hands.

edit2: Wow, what an incredibly nice bloke. I hope he does well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Bad English on July 03, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
He is not ITSOTP; signing not official.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 03, 2015, 07:15:46 PM
He is not ITSOTP; signing not official.

Although Man City announced it the other day,
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Bad English on July 03, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
Sorry. Training tops do not count. ITSOTP.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on July 05, 2015, 10:01:20 AM
Sorry. Training tops do not count. ITSOTP.
I'd like it to be changed to ITSOTPHAC
Holding
A
Carp.

Until I see Idrissa ITSOTPHAC I won't accept him as a Villa player. Even if he plays the whole of next season and captains us to an FA Cup victory. If he's not held a giant carp. He's not one of us.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: KRS on July 05, 2015, 01:37:50 PM
Good job your not lysdexic and spelt "carp" wrong!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on July 05, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
Good job your not lysdexic and spelt "carp" wrong!
Damn it I spelt Crap wrong! ha ha.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 05, 2015, 04:19:01 PM
Ah the traditional quotes about the facilities & training ground. Just once I would giggle if the quote was "He described the facilities as 'fine I suppose, who cares?'"

edit: bloody hell his upper body , he could crush my skull with his bare hands.

edit2: Wow, what an incredibly nice bloke. I hope he does well.

Went round to see some friends we hadn't seen for a while last week, their 8 year old son is a Citeh fan and his mum works with Micah's brother's girlfriend (I think!), word got back to him about this and out of the blue he sent a signed shirt he'd worn in a match and some bits and pieces. Shortly after he moved to Fiorentina another parcel arrived, this time containing a signed Fiorentina shirt. A very nice man!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Gompedyret on July 05, 2015, 05:11:52 PM
Certainly seems to be a ray of sunlight, our Micah!  8)

Hopefully his contribution on the ball is as positive.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on July 05, 2015, 06:29:12 PM
Ah the traditional quotes about the facilities & training ground. Just once I would giggle if the quote was "He described the facilities as 'fine I suppose, who cares?'"
"Who gives a f*ck? It's a treadmill and a swimming pool, just like the ones that I have in my house."
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on July 07, 2015, 05:04:48 PM
Certainly seems to be a ray of sunlight, our Micah!  8)

Hopefully his contribution on the ball is as positive.

I agree, even with his dodgy My Villa Dream Team

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4847261,00.html
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve kirk on July 07, 2015, 08:51:06 PM
Just seen Micah sporting the new kit, looks a very powerful lad, centre half material me thinks rather than right back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 07, 2015, 08:57:30 PM
He's built like a combine harvester. Bloody massive. If he dos play RB getting past him then Okore might be a bit of a challenge
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OCD on July 07, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
In the kit unveiling, I spent a good few minutes trying to figure out who he was before Jim White started talking to him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ron Manager on July 09, 2015, 09:56:50 AM
Seems to like interacting with the sporting press doesn't he. Lets hope he can keep quiet when he needs to!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on July 09, 2015, 10:13:51 AM
Seems to like interacting with the sporting press doesn't he. Lets hope he can keep quiet when he needs to!
Does he?

Aren't the press just all reporting the same quotes from his club-organised press conference?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
Sky Sports News - 4 days ago:
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/9911682/micah-richards-i-did-not-tell-delph-to-reject-city (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/9911682/micah-richards-i-did-not-tell-delph-to-reject-city)

New Aston Villa signing Micah Richards has denied he persuaded Fabian Delph to snub Manchester City and stay at the Midlands club.

Richards admitted last week that Delph had asked him about life at Manchester City, where the defender spent the first 10 years of his career.

Richards said of Delph's proposed move: "It's tough isn't it? If he's got guarantees to play... he's been unbelievable for Aston Villa. Every player wants to play at the highest level. If he's going to be playing Champions League... I don't know, but if he's going there to be a squad player, then no.”

But after Delph’s apparent U-turn on Saturday, Richards has denied playing any part in the England midfielder’s decision.

Richards said on Twitter: "If people actually think I had an influence on Delph not going to City you’re wrong! And I have nothing but great things to say about City!"


BBC News - yesterday:

Fabian Delph: Manchester City sign Aston Villa captain for £8m (http://Fabian Delph: Manchester City sign Aston Villa captain for £8m)

Aston Villa captain Fabian Delph has signed a five-year contract at Manchester City less than a week after saying he was staying at Villa Park.

On Friday, he said he had spoken to his England team-mate and City goalkeeper Joe Hart - as well as Villa's new signing from City Micah Richards - before signing.

"Micah Richards told me that as far as he is concerned, this is the best club in the world and he had the time of his life here," added Delph.



Anybody else uneasy about Micah Richards role in Delph's departure..? Remember how O'Neill felt about Patrick Berger in a similar situation..?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: frank black on July 18, 2015, 10:42:57 AM
I just don't like Footballers, but love the game.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Gregorys Boy on July 18, 2015, 10:43:22 AM
No one with a brain in their head is uneasy about it no ;) This is a none story, lets move on, next?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 10:49:24 AM
If I openly encouraged one of our leading performers to join a direct competitor, my employer would see that as gross misconduct. Just saying...
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on July 18, 2015, 10:57:44 AM
I think people should get the heads out of their arses, suck it up and move on.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
If I openly encouraged one of our leading performers to join a direct competitor, my employer would see that as gross misconduct. Just saying...

What rubbish. He was asked his opinion about a club he'd been with since he was a boy and he was always going to say good things about it. Blaming Richards for Delph moving is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Monty on July 18, 2015, 11:00:51 AM
If he did encourage Delph to leave that doesn't demonstrate a *huge* level of commitment to his new club and its fortunes, it has to be said. It's not like Delph would have been persuaded by his advice, however - I don't think you make a decision like that because your new team-mate you've barely met says so.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on July 18, 2015, 11:01:15 AM
If I openly encouraged one of our leading performers to join a direct competitor, my employer would see that as gross misconduct. Just saying...

I doubt you'd be quizzed about your colleagues rumoured move in front of the national media.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 11:03:36 AM
Quote
What rubbish. He was asked his opinion about a club he'd been with since he was a boy and he was always going to say good things about it. Blaming Richards for Delph moving is ridiculous.

Richards was quick to get on Twitter four days ago to tell everyone not to blame him for Delph's original decision to stay and captain Villa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on July 18, 2015, 11:06:32 AM
If I openly encouraged one of our leading performers to join a direct competitor, my employer would see that as gross misconduct. Just saying...

What rubbish. He was asked his opinion about a club he'd been with since he was a boy and he was always going to say good things about it. Blaming Richards for Delph moving is ridiculous.

Yes but Delph should have had the good grace to keep his big mouth shut. I bet Richards thinks that as well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: leylandalbion on July 18, 2015, 11:07:31 AM
I think people are looking for scape goats and delph by stating that is looking for distraction.  The lad was at City from an early age of course he loved the club, like Grealish / Gabby etc would say about villa.
Give the lad a break and see how he performs in C&B.

There should be blame to only 1 person in this saga.  The club did what they can to keep him, but agents have power in negotiating deals, particularly in a failing club.  I just want to move on, forget the little fuker.  (ps anyone know how to remove name from a kids top!) 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:08:30 AM
Quote
What rubbish. He was asked his opinion about a club he'd been with since he was a boy and he was always going to say good things about it. Blaming Richards for Delph moving is ridiculous.

Richards was quick to get on Twitter four days ago to tell everyone not to blame him for Delph's original decision to stay and captain Villa.

You're being ridiculous. What if for the sake of argument Wilfred Bony asked Delph what kind of club Villa was if he was thinking of coming here?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 11:13:22 AM
Quote
You're being ridiculous. What if for the sake of argument Wilfred Bony asked Delph what kind of club Villa was if he was thinking of coming here?

Martin O'Neill might not agree with you:

Patrik Berger's career at Aston Villa was terminated yesterday for urging Gareth Barry to take up the "opportunity of a lifetime" and move to Liverpool this summer.

"We are paying Patrik's wages for him to recommend one of our players to another football club. It's ludicrous," he said.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2299710/Villa-dump-Patrik-Berger-over-Barry-advice.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2299710/Villa-dump-Patrik-Berger-over-Barry-advice.html)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 11:14:00 AM
If I openly encouraged one of our leading performers to join a direct competitor, my employer would see that as gross misconduct. Just saying...

What rubbish. He was asked his opinion about a club he'd been with since he was a boy and he was always going to say good things about it. Blaming Richards for Delph moving is ridiculous.

No ones blaming him, just saying it doesn't sit right. After all, he's at he Villa now, rumoured £65k a week because he was frozen out at Citeh.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect him to say "Yeah it a good Club but it's a graveyard for English footballers once frozen out, that's why me and Scott are here".
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2015, 11:14:31 AM
I wish people would stop looking for excuses. You can blame his agent, the club, Richards all you like but ultimately he's a grown man who makes his own decisions and constructs his own lies.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:17:55 AM
If I openly encouraged one of our leading performers to join a direct competitor, my employer would see that as gross misconduct. Just saying...

What rubbish. He was asked his opinion about a club he'd been with since he was a boy and he was always going to say good things about it. Blaming Richards for Delph moving is ridiculous.

No ones blaming him, just saying it doesn't sit right. After all, he's at he Villa now, rumoured £65k a week because he was frozen out at Citeh.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect him to say "Yeah it a good Club but it's a graveyard for English footballers once frozen out, that's why me and Scott are here".

But it doesn't need a fellow footballer to tell him that, he probably knew that anyway.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 11:23:33 AM
Delph is a ****** but Richards should really have just kept bloody quiet.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Delph is a c*** but Richards should really have just kept bloody quiet.

It wouldn't have made much difference if he had.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 11:25:13 AM
If I openly encouraged one of our leading performers to join a direct competitor, my employer would see that as gross misconduct. Just saying...

What rubbish. He was asked his opinion about a club he'd been with since he was a boy and he was always going to say good things about it. Blaming Richards for Delph moving is ridiculous.

No ones blaming him, just saying it doesn't sit right. After all, he's at he Villa now, rumoured £65k a week because he was frozen out at Citeh.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect him to say "Yeah it a good Club but it's a graveyard for English footballers once frozen out, that's why me and Scott are here".

But it doesn't need a fellow footballer to tell him that, he probably knew that anyway.

Then why bother asking anything then. And then throwing our new signing under the bus.

Delph has handled this about as poorly as its possible to.


Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 11:26:38 AM
Delph is a c*** but Richards should really have just kept bloody quiet.

It wouldn't have made much difference if he had.
Maybe not but its not the sort of thing we want to hear from a new signing. Thick as pig shit some footballers
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: *shellac* on July 18, 2015, 11:27:13 AM
Used to have a soft spot for them when they were a yo-yo club.

Now I hate Citeh.

Barry. Milner. Delph. And fucking Ireland.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
Delph is a c*** but Richards should really have just kept bloody quiet.

It wouldn't have made much difference if he had.

You don't actually know that though do you. 

After all Delph claims it was Richards conversation that helped him with his decision.  Although I'm not sure I trust what Fibian says anymore.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
Used to have a soft spot for them when they were a yo-yo club.

Now I hate Citeh.

Barry. Milner. Delph. And fucking Ireland.
Dunne Sinclair Given. We do seem to trade with them a lot.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:31:03 AM
Delph is a c*** but Richards should really have just kept bloody quiet.

It wouldn't have made much difference if he had.

You don't actually know that though do you. 

After all Delph claims it was Richards conversation that helped him with his decision.  Although I'm not sure I trust what Fibian says anymore.

Of course I believe it. I'm sure he took advice from other people, not just Richards. Richards possibly asked Milner what kind of club we were before moving here, it happens.

If you're trying to find a scapegoat for Delph pledging his loyalty twice and still moving on, then you're picking on the wrong person.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Summers on July 18, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: *shellac* on July 18, 2015, 11:33:15 AM
Given and Dunne were ok-ish but Ireland was a complete waste of money.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 11:33:48 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
We're not , just saying to stop running his mouth off inadvertently to the media about promoting a Delph move to ci£y.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:35:33 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
We're not , just saying to stop running his mouth off inadvertently to the media about promoting a Delph move to ci£y.

He was asked the question and he answered it. It's not as if he rang up Sky personally.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 11:36:21 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
We're not , just saying to stop running his mouth off inadvertently to the media about promoting a Delph move to ci£y.

He was asked the question and he answered it. It's not as if he rang up Sky personally.
No comment was all he had to say.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:38:53 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
We're not , just saying to stop running his mouth off inadvertently to the media about promoting a Delph move to ci£y.

He was asked the question and he answered it. It's not as if he rang up Sky personally.
No comment was all he had to say.

Possibly but he'd already spoken to Delph anyway so what was the point? Man Utd or Chelsea might have come in and he still would have gone so to say Richards played a part in him moving is nonsense.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
No but it's more about how the club is being fucking run. New players coming in and talking to the press about our captain leaving etc.
Another symptom of a very poorly run show.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Summers on July 18, 2015, 11:44:26 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
We're not , just saying to stop running his mouth off inadvertently to the media about promoting a Delph move to ci£y.

He was asked the question and he answered it. It's not as if he rang up Sky personally.
No comment was all he had to say.

He spent 10 years there, making close to 300 appearances. He has every right to say positive things about the club.

I fucking hate City, but it's perfectly reasonable and acceptable that Micah has good things to say.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 11:46:21 AM
Show me another decent sized Club where that is allowed to happen. It'd never happen at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Spurzz or even the Barcodes for instance.

 They wouldn't stand for it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 18, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
Utter drivel. It's pathetic of Delph to cause trouble for a new signing, just to attempt to justify his treacherous lickspittlery. I'm assuming he probably asked Sinclair his opinion too. Funny he hasn't leaked his responses to the media.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: john e on July 18, 2015, 11:47:17 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
We're not , just saying to stop running his mouth off inadvertently to the media about promoting a Delph move to ci£y.

He was asked the question and he answered it. It's not as if he rang up Sky personally.
No comment was all he had to say.

He spent 10 years there, making close to 300 appearances. He has every right to say positive things about the club.

I fucking hate City, but it's perfectly reasonable and acceptable that Micah has good things to say.


And the City fans love him if that leaving thread on blue moon was anything to go by
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 18, 2015, 11:47:34 AM
Show me another decent sized Club where that is allowed to happen. It'd never happen at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Spurzz or even the Barcodes for instance.

 They wouldn't stand for it.


They don't allow players to talk in the dressing room?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Summers on July 18, 2015, 11:50:13 AM
Show me another decent sized Club where that is allowed to happen. It'd never happen at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Spurzz or even the Barcodes for instance.

 They wouldn't stand for it.


Load of shit. Players talk. They're all mates, we have a couple of ex City players and Delph was in two minds. He was always going to seek their opinions. And because they're mates, they're hardly going to lie to him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 11:53:20 AM
This is the way Sky Sports are reporting it:
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/9916884/fabien-delph-has-revealed-micah-richards-helped-change-his-mind-over-manchester-city (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/9916884/fabien-delph-has-revealed-micah-richards-helped-change-his-mind-over-manchester-city)

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Fabien Delph has revealed Micah Richards helped change his mind over Manchester City

Fabian Delph says Micah Richards played a key role in his City U-turn

Fabian Delph has revealed that conversations with former Manchester City defender Micah Richards influenced him to change his mind about moving to the club.

Delph signed a five-year contract with City on Friday, less than a week after rejecting the transfer and committing his future to Aston Villa through a strongly-worded statement.

It has now emerged that new Villa signing Richards, who had denied persuading Delph to snub City earlier this week, was influential in the U-turn.
 
“Micah Richards told me that as far as he is concerned, this is the best club in the world and he had the time of his life here," Delph said in an interview on City’s official website.

City triggered the £8m release clause in Delph’s Villa contract last week, but the midfielder released a statement in which he insisted: “I'm not leaving.

"I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the Premier League season."

Richards then took to social media to deny suggestions he had encouraged Delph to stay at the Midlands club, saying on Twitter: "If people actually think I had an influence on Delph not going to City you’re wrong! And I have nothing but great things to say about City!"

I don't have the greatest respect for Sky Sports journalism but if I was Micah Richards, I'd want to rebut this quickly and publicly. So far he seems to care more about staying in City fans' good graces than he does about playing in the strongest possible Villa team.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 11:54:47 AM
Delph is a grown up. He made this decision. Don't blame Richards.
We're not , just saying to stop running his mouth off inadvertently to the media about promoting a Delph move to ci£y.

He was asked the question and he answered it. It's not as if he rang up Sky personally.
No comment was all he had to say.

He spent 10 years there, making close to 300 appearances. He has every right to say positive things about the club.

I fucking hate City, but it's perfectly reasonable and acceptable that Micah has good things to say.

Of course but ultimately he left to further hs career as he'd been frozen out at Citeh as if you don't achieve instant success you're consigned to the stiffs never to be heard of again.

There are countless examples and Richards is one. How about he said something like;

"It's  a fuckin great club Fib, it really is, great support but the downside is you probably won't play every week, the Manager will be out by Christmas if things don't start well and I've had to move here to get any sort of game time just like Scott has."

Maybe he did we'll never know but it doesn't sit right with me.



Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 11:54:53 AM
Jesus Micah, just shut the fuck up already.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:56:00 AM
This is the way Sky Sports are reporting it:
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/9916884/fabien-delph-has-revealed-micah-richards-helped-change-his-mind-over-manchester-city (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/9916884/fabien-delph-has-revealed-micah-richards-helped-change-his-mind-over-manchester-city)

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Fabien Delph has revealed Micah Richards helped change his mind over Manchester City

Fabian Delph says Micah Richards played a key role in his City U-turn

Fabian Delph has revealed that conversations with former Manchester City defender Micah Richards influenced him to change his mind about moving to the club.

Delph signed a five-year contract with City on Friday, less than a week after rejecting the transfer and committing his future to Aston Villa through a strongly-worded statement.

It has now emerged that new Villa signing Richards, who had denied persuading Delph to snub City earlier this week, was influential in the U-turn.
 
“Micah Richards told me that as far as he is concerned, this is the best club in the world and he had the time of his life here," Delph said in an interview on City’s official website.

City triggered the £8m release clause in Delph’s Villa contract last week, but the midfielder released a statement in which he insisted: “I'm not leaving.

"I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the Premier League season."

Richards then took to social media to deny suggestions he had encouraged Delph to stay at the Midlands club, saying on Twitter: "If people actually think I had an influence on Delph not going to City you’re wrong! And I have nothing but great things to say about City!"

I don't have the greatest respect for Sky Sports journalism but if I was Micah Richards, I'd want to rebut this quickly and publicly. So far he seems to care more about staying in City fan's good graces than he does about playing in the strongest possible Villa team.

What utter nonsense. Like someone said earlier, he was asked about a club he played over 300 games for. What was he expected to say?

How about giving the bloke who pledged his loyalty twice and still pissed off some stick instead of trying to find a scapegoat?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 11:57:17 AM
Show me another decent sized Club where that is allowed to happen. It'd never happen at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Spurzz or even the Barcodes for instance.

 They wouldn't stand for it.


They don't allow players to talk in the dressing room?

Of course you can't stop players saying what they like  to each other but it shows a disrespect to the club you play for and pays your wages when it's made public and you comment on it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 11:59:09 AM
This is what he said, taken from an article in the Daily Mail.

I told him I can’t comment to be honest.
‘I don’t want to say, 'Go there' and then he doesn’t play him.
‘He’ll be ringing me up afterwards.
‘It’s tough isn’t it. Every player wants to play at the highest level.
‘But if he’s going there to be a squad player, then no!

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 12:02:38 PM
And as Jimmy Cricket would say, there's more.

‘It makes it difficult because next year is the Euros,’ he said.
‘If you go to Man City and find yourself only playing ten games and someone has a really good season that player is going to play for England.
‘Things can change. He’s been unbelievable for Aston Villa. It would be great if he stays.’


Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 12:04:22 PM
Quote
This is what he said, taken from an article in the Daily Mail.

I told him I can’t comment to be honest.
‘I don’t want to say, 'Go there' and then he doesn’t play him.
‘He’ll be ringing me up afterwards.
‘It’s tough isn’t it. Every player wants to play at the highest level.
‘But if he’s going there to be a squad player, then no!

And this is what he said on his own Twitter feed (four days ago when Delph decided to stay and captain Villa):

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@MicahRichards

If people actually think I had a influence on Delph not going to city your wrong! And I have nothing but great things to say about city!

And this is how a Villa fan responded to him on Twitter:

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@ryan114av

@MicahRichards All you've done since joining Villa is talk to the press. Let your feet do the talking.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 12:07:01 PM
Of course he's got good things to say about City, he was there for 10 years. I can't see what people don't get about that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Pete3206 on July 18, 2015, 12:10:51 PM
I agree Clampy, but I think he should just shut the fuck up from now on.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 12:11:50 PM
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Of course he's got good things to say about City, he was there for 10 years. I can't see what people don't get about that.

We don't like our own highest-earning players cheerleading from the sidelines when our Captain leaves us and credits them with influencing his change of heart.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: stevenavfc on July 18, 2015, 12:12:23 PM
Simply Delph looking to deflect some of the blame, morale coward.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 12:14:40 PM
Of course he's got good things to say about City, he was there for 10 years. I can't see what people don't get about that.

For the love of McGrath we do see that.

The problem i have is he keeps talking publicly about it. Just say nothing to the press. It shows a lack of respect to the Club and fans who pays you £65k a week. Can you imagine a 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' player talking like that to the press.

And If he can't shut up then the Club needs to tell him to.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 12:17:15 PM
Simply Delph looking to deflect some of the blame, morale coward.

You may have a point.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on July 18, 2015, 12:20:22 PM
Simply Delph looking to deflect some of the blame, morale coward.

You may have a point.

Wouldn't surprise me either. Delph has form clearly.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tony Erdington on July 18, 2015, 12:33:18 PM
Pantomime  comes to mind.

not to many are coming out of this with any credit.

Micah is now looking like a special agent.  some what soured his debut I feel.

Delph is a clown. I hope it goes horribly wrong for the twat, 7th November if he plays maybe Richards could tackle him and they both break each others legs. yes im bitter.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave shelley on July 18, 2015, 12:35:28 PM
Tony, you need to take a break from here.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 12:36:58 PM

Delph is a clown. I hope it goes horribly wrong for the twat, 7th November if he plays maybe Richards could tackle him and they both break each others legs. yes im bitter.

You're also a bit of an arse for writing something like that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on July 18, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
For fucks sake.

It's not Bentekes fault for him leaving.
It's not Micah Richards fault for him leaving.
It's not Randy Lerners fault for him leaving.

He is leaving because he decided he wants to follow the money trail and not be in a relegation fight. He told lies and deceived the club and it's fans and he alone shoulders the responsibility for it, not Richards for not saying Money City is a shithouse.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 18, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
For fucks sake.

It's not Bentekes fault for him leaving.
It's not Micah Richards fault for him leaving.
It's not Randy Lerners fault for him leaving.

He is leaving because he decided he wants to follow the money trail and not be in a relegation fight. He told lies and deceived the club and it's fans and he alone shoulders the responsibility for it, not Richards for not saying Money City is a shithouse.

Agree except the money trail bit. I imagine he thinks he's going to play at a higher level, chumps league etc.

I'd be surprised if he's had that much of s pay rise to be honest.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tony Erdington on July 18, 2015, 12:46:38 PM

Delph is a clown. I hope it goes horribly wrong for the twat, 7th November if he plays maybe Richards could tackle him and they both break each others legs. yes im bitter.

You're also a bit of an arse for writing something like that.

Don't be like that clampy old chap, I just cant get my head round the fact that footballers are at will to treat the clubs paying them have no respect. in all honesty, after defending delph against a lot of people on here when this first started, foolishly. I now see the clubs mean zero to them, there is no loyalty, so why bother supporting something where the centre stage don't give a shit. Sorry but im really struggling with it, I don't think of you as an ARSE clampy. as im noit a keyboard warrior, atb.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tony Erdington on July 18, 2015, 12:53:30 PM
For fucks sake.

It's not Bentekes fault for him leaving.
It's not Micah Richards fault for him leaving.
It's not Randy Lerners fault for him leaving.

He is leaving because he decided he wants to follow the money trail and not be in a relegation fight. He told lies and deceived the club and it's fans and he alone shoulders the responsibility for it, not Richards for not saying Money City is a shithouse.

Agree except the money trail bit. I imagine he thinks he's going to play at a higher level, chumps league etc.

I'd be surprised if he's had that much of s pay rise to be honest.



this I agree with, I never really had any thoughts about citeh, yes I know they've done it with money ala Chelsea, ala yanited. but for a club with so many multi million pound players on sight, their crowds are still not flocking in , in the words of the great song empty seats my lord, so the citeh experiment is very much oil based, and I suppose Delph has been bought to help with filling one of the empty seats me lord.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 12:55:44 PM
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It's not Micah Richards fault for him leaving.

Richards was certainly quick to take to Twitter four days ago to make sure all the City fans knew it wasn't his fault Delph didn't join at the first attempt...
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on July 18, 2015, 12:58:36 PM
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It's not Micah Richards fault for him leaving.

Richards was certainly quick to take to Twitter four days ago to make sure all the City fans knew it wasn't his fault Delph didn't join at the first attempt...

And why wouldn't he, he's a City boy at heart. Delph having no bottle, no loyalty, no brain or whatever has nothing to do with him. I'm sure Fibian knows enough about football to be able to make a decision without asking Micah Richards for some career changing advice. It's another smokescreen, snake makes it's own decisions. Delph is a twat.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 18, 2015, 01:03:14 PM
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And why wouldn't he, he's a City boy at heart.

Because we pay him £65,000 a week.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: London Villan on July 18, 2015, 02:33:29 PM
Like Delph, Richards clearly doesn't know when it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut...
 
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt" - Lisa Simpson.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 18, 2015, 02:35:42 PM
Show me another decent sized Club where that is allowed to happen. It'd never happen at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Spurzz or even the Barcodes for instance.

 They wouldn't stand for it.


They don't allow players to talk in the dressing room?

Of course you can't stop players saying what they like  to each other but it shows a disrespect to the club you play for and pays your wages when it's made public and you comment on it.

Made public by a nosey media and a grovelling D***h looking to deflect some blame for his uttercuntery. At worst, Richards is guilty of being a bit naive. 

To the poster that said he hopes Richards breaks his legs... you're a prick.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 18, 2015, 02:37:01 PM

Delph is a clown. I hope it goes horribly wrong for the twat, 7th November if he plays maybe Richards could tackle him and they both break each others legs. yes im bitter.

Silly, silly man.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy65 on July 18, 2015, 02:38:04 PM
For fucks sake.

It's not Bentekes fault for him leaving.
It's not Micah Richards fault for him leaving.
It's not Randy Lerners fault for him leaving.

He is leaving because he decided he wants to follow the money trail and not be in a relegation fight. He told lies and deceived the club and it's fans and he alone shoulders the responsibility for it, not Richards for not saying Money City is a shithouse.

Agree except the money trail bit. I imagine he thinks he's going to play at a higher level, chumps league etc.

I'd be surprised if he's had that much of s pay rise to be honest.

He will have had a massive pay rise. Why move otherwise. His pay offer will have increased since last weekend, hence the move. He is a snake but does have some brains. He knows he wont play regularly but has been offered so much oil money he couldnt reject it. I dont blame him, its just the manner that pisses me, and everyone else, off
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Axl Rose on July 18, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
Show me another decent sized Club where that is allowed to happen. It'd never happen at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Spurzz or even the Barcodes for instance.

 They wouldn't stand for it.


They don't allow players to talk in the dressing room?

Of course you can't stop players saying what they like  to each other but it shows a disrespect to the club you play for and pays your wages when it's made public and you comment on it.

Made public by a nosey media and a grovelling D***h looking to deflect some blame for his uttercuntery. At worst, Richards is guilty of being a bit naive. 

To the poster that said he hopes Richards breaks his legs... you're a prick.

Haha. Youve cheered me up,mate
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2015, 02:40:24 PM


Delph is a clown. I hope it goes horribly wrong for the twat, 7th November if he plays maybe Richards could tackle him and they both break each others legs. yes im bitter.

You want a Villa player to break his leg, because he mentioned he likes his former club to Delph? good grief. Frankly wanting anyone to break their legs is pretty unpleasant. I hope Delph fails miserably at Citeh, but I'd rather that was on a performance basis than a horrible injury.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 02:47:04 PM

Delph is a clown. I hope it goes horribly wrong for the twat, 7th November if he plays maybe Richards could tackle him and they both break each others legs. yes im bitter.

You're also a bit of an arse for writing something like that.

Don't be like that clampy old chap, I just cant get my head round the fact that footballers are at will to treat the clubs paying them have no respect. in all honesty, after defending delph against a lot of people on here when this first started, foolishly. I now see the clubs mean zero to them, there is no loyalty, so why bother supporting something where the centre stage don't give a shit. Sorry but im really struggling with it, I don't think of you as an ARSE clampy. as im noit a keyboard warrior, atb.

Well, I still think you're an arse, it was a woeful comment to make.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 02:50:28 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2015, 02:52:38 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.

I'm sorry, what's he said now?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 18, 2015, 02:53:33 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.

I'm sorry, what's he said now?

He thought Wet Wet Wet were shit and Queen were c*nts for playing Sin City.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on July 18, 2015, 03:02:00 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.

I'm sorry, what's he said now?

He thought Wet Wet Wet were shit and Queen were c*nts for playing Sin City.

The club had better gag him before he gets started on U2, we'd be sinking through mud faster than you can say "Jermaine Beckford"
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 18, 2015, 03:02:55 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.

You won't be saying that once he tries to bicycle kick a ball he could easily have headed away.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 18, 2015, 03:04:00 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.

I'm sorry, what's he said now?

He thought Wet Wet Wet were shit and Queen were c*nts for playing Sin City.

The club had better gag him before he gets started on U2, we'd be sinking through mud faster than you can say "Jermaine Beckford"

If we were to sign Beckford it would be a real statement of intent.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2015, 03:21:34 PM
Pantomime  comes to mind.

not to many are coming out of this with any credit.

Micah is now looking like a special agent.  some what soured his debut I feel.

Delph is a clown. I hope it goes horribly wrong for the twat, 7th November if he plays maybe Richards could tackle him and they both break each others legs. yes im bitter.

You wish serious injury on a Villa player? Charming.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ron Manager on July 18, 2015, 04:45:30 PM
Anybody who suggests that a player should break anothers legs on this site should get his/her ticket without hesitation!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2015, 05:27:29 PM
He's both dissuaded and persuaded delph to join citeh in the same week then

Or he hasn't and this is completely exaggerated
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on July 18, 2015, 08:11:26 PM
I should think that the article are rehashing words from last week.  I do not think Delph has been on the phone to Richards this week.  I think the comment from Richard last week was meant to say that Delph made up his own mind and was not influenced by anybody.

It happens all the time with media interviews with players.  They hold back some comments to get as many articles out of the same  interview as possible.  This is being taken to the limits by the media now in twisting the same words to give completely opposite view points.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 08:14:34 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.

I'm sorry, what's he said now?

He thought Wet Wet Wet were shit and Queen were c*nts for playing Sin City.

The club had better gag him before he gets started on U2, we'd be sinking through mud faster than you can say "Jermaine Beckford"

If we were to sign Beckford it would be a real statement of intent.
Ha. In other news , the day of Delphs return to B6, U2 play Glasgow Pacific quays . I wonder if I could "Phil Collins" the two.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Louzie0 on July 18, 2015, 08:18:15 PM
Turning into a bit of a rentagob isn't he.
As posted before let your feet do the talking Micah.

I'm sorry, what's he said now?

He thought Wet Wet Wet were shit and Queen were c*nts for playing Sin City.

The club had better gag him before he gets started on U2, we'd be sinking through mud faster than you can say "Jermaine Beckford"

If we were to sign Beckford it would be a real statement of intent.
Ha. In other news , the day of Delphs return to B6, U2 play Glasgow Pacific quays . I wonder if I could "Phil Collins" the two.
That would have to be on Concorde time with a 5.30 kick off. ;)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 08:19:50 PM
Damn you Sky .
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 18, 2015, 08:20:38 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 18, 2015, 08:31:30 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen


Many things happen at many clubs all the time that we reckon only happen at Villa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ron Manager on July 18, 2015, 08:34:03 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen

Just say Sir Alex was our manager. Not so young Mr Richards would still be shaking in his boots after a few quiet well chosen words in his ear.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen


Many things happen at many clubs all the time that we reckon only happen at Villa.
Really ?  How many clubs lose their best 2 players within days of one another
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 18, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
Southampton lose about twelve of their best players every Summer.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on July 18, 2015, 08:58:46 PM
Delph made his own decision, yes he will have spoken to people, but it is his decision. Cannot understand the stick Richards is getting, as he said last week he had no influence on any decision and I am sure it is still the same.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 18, 2015, 09:04:12 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen


Many things happen at many clubs all the time that we reckon only happen at Villa.

That Roy Keane interview on MUTV being a particular example of an excellent PR fuck up, much worse that the current Richards faux pas.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Lizz on July 18, 2015, 09:05:00 PM
I've probably mentioned too many times that I work in HR, to the extent that if someone else was saying it, it would get on my nerves. Reality is though, I hear conspiracy theories on an almost daily basis. My best work related experience of jumping to conclusions - an appeal hearing was postponed. One of the participants was convinced there were all sorts of Machiavellian reasons. The boring reality was one of the panel members had had a family bereavement.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on July 18, 2015, 09:06:03 PM
Isn't part of the deal with Sky etc to provide manager and players for interviews.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2015, 09:12:31 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen

Just say Sir Alex was our manager. Not so young Mr Richards would still be shaking in his boots after a few quiet well chosen words in his ear.

Yes the same Sir Alex who gave Rooney a shiny new contract despite being a monstrous twat.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 18, 2015, 09:16:11 PM
I've probably mentioned too many times that I work in HR, to the extent that if someone else was saying it, it would get on my nerves. Reality is though, I hear conspiracy theories on an almost daily basis. My best work related experience of jumping to conclusions - an appeal hearing was postponed. One of the participants was convinced there were all sorts of Machiavellian reasons. The boring reality was one of the panel members had had a family bereavement.

Lizz, my partner works in HR and I don't equate what she's like and you are (judging by what I know of you from here) with the monsters people seem to deal with at their work places! I hear daily stories of what she has to deal with and I don't know how she stats so calm and understanding, especially having to live with me!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 18, 2015, 09:16:33 PM
Delph made his own decision, yes he will have spoken to people, but it is his decision. Cannot understand the stick Richards is getting, as he said last week he had no influence on any decision and I am sure it is still the same.

Of course it is his decision. But if you take a look at the comments, it isn't just a case of people being annoyed at Richards for talking to Delph about it.

It is Richards revealing it to the press.

They're two distinct arguments.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on July 18, 2015, 09:22:10 PM
Delph made his own decision, yes he will have spoken to people, but it is his decision. Cannot understand the stick Richards is getting, as he said last week he had no influence on any decision and I am sure it is still the same.

Of course it is his decision. But if you take a look at the comments, it isn't just a case of people being annoyed at Richards for talking to Delph about it.

It is Richards revealing it to the press.

They're two distinct arguments.
As far as I know, the only quotes Richards has given about anything to anybody since he signed was at his club-organised press conference.

Delph saying to the press "Micah said this" has nothing to do with what Richards said ten days ago.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on July 18, 2015, 10:15:48 PM
My take on this is that there was one interview where a he said something like:

"Yeah we spoke about Man City, I told him it's a great club and I loved it there but also that my place went away quite quickly because at a club like that if you're injured or out of form there's every possibility that you won't get another chance so if he's been assured he'll play and he believes it then it's a good move but if not it could cost him his England place.  Either way I'm not going to offer him any advice because if I tell him to go and he doesn't play he'll be on the phone having a go."

You can pick bits out of that which suggest he convinced him to stay and you can pick out bits that say the opposite but simply put it's a none answer that says Delph is a big boy and can make his own decisions.  That Delph and the press are shit stirring it to look different shouldn't mean we all start slagging Richards off, it's just a deflection and one we could really do without.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on July 18, 2015, 10:21:01 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen

Just say Sir Alex was our manager. Not so young Mr Richards would still be shaking in his boots after a few quiet well chosen words in his ear.

Yes the same Sir Alex who gave Rooney a shiny new contract despite being a monstrous twat.
All relative . They retained their best player rather than be undermined ,  embarrassed and plundered. I hate Yanited as much as the next man but they are a well run club who don't take shite.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Pete3206 on July 18, 2015, 10:25:30 PM
I don't really care what Richards says to Delph about Man City. That's the sort of conversation that goes on between footballers all the time, it is no big deal.

What I am a bit bothered about is Richards and Delph talking about it to the press. Particularly Richards.
That is my main beef.
Does the club not have a policy about this? Is the manager ok with this ? Etc
I can't imagine a club like Chelsea or Yanited would ever let this shit happen

Just say Sir Alex was our manager. Not so young Mr Richards would still be shaking in his boots after a few quiet well chosen words in his ear.

Yes the same Sir Alex who gave Rooney a shiny new contract despite being a monstrous twat.
All relative . They retained their best player rather than be undermined ,  embarrassed and plundered. I hate Yanited as much as the next man but they are a well run club who don't take shite.

Being one of the biggest clubs in the world helps.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on July 18, 2015, 10:25:45 PM
"Yeah we spoke about Man City, I told him it's a great club and I loved it there but also that my place went away quite quickly because at a club like that if you're injured or out of form there's every possibility that you won't get another chance so if he's been assured he'll play and he believes it then it's a good move but if not it could cost him his England place.  Either way I'm not going to offer him any advice because if I tell him to go and he doesn't play he'll be on the phone having a go."

You can pick bits out of that which suggest he convinced him to stay and you can pick out bits that say the opposite but simply put it's a none answer that says Delph is a big boy and can make his own decisions.
Obviously you're paraphrasing (I think you've got the gist right though), but to me his quote read as though he thought of a sensible, managed opinion that was respectful to them, us and Delph and that he knew it was going to probably be repeated and requoted and didn't want it to be a rod for his back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on July 18, 2015, 10:27:31 PM
"Yeah we spoke about Man City, I told him it's a great club and I loved it there but also that my place went away quite quickly because at a club like that if you're injured or out of form there's every possibility that you won't get another chance so if he's been assured he'll play and he believes it then it's a good move but if not it could cost him his England place.  Either way I'm not going to offer him any advice because if I tell him to go and he doesn't play he'll be on the phone having a go."

You can pick bits out of that which suggest he convinced him to stay and you can pick out bits that say the opposite but simply put it's a none answer that says Delph is a big boy and can make his own decisions.
Obviously you're paraphrasing (I think you've got the gist right though), but to me his quote read as though he thought of a sensible, managed opinion that was respectful to them, us and Delph and that he knew it was going to probably be repeated and requoted and didn't want it to be a rod for his back.

Of course, I was just being lazy and didn't want to have to hunt down all the quoted snippets.  His twitter claims that it was nothing to do with him back this up as well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on July 18, 2015, 10:27:44 PM
Delph made his own decision, yes he will have spoken to people, but it is his decision. Cannot understand the stick Richards is getting, as he said last week he had no influence on any decision and I am sure it is still the same.

Of course it is his decision. But if you take a look at the comments, it isn't just a case of people being annoyed at Richards for talking to Delph about it.

It is Richards revealing it to the press.

They're two distinct arguments.

From what I have seen, Richards has not said anything to the press saying Delph should go. He said what a good club they are, but lets be honest, he knows more than most that not all excellent players will get a regular game.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on July 18, 2015, 10:35:56 PM
Of course, I was just being lazy and didn't want to have to hunt down all the quoted snippets
I wouldn't worry, I think the actual quotes were very much in line with your summation.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: VillaAlways on July 18, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
Yes Delph, it's all Micah Richards fault that you changed your mind and nothing to do with the millions of pounds Man City were throwing at you.

Tosspot
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2015, 11:37:58 PM
Yes Delph, it's all Micah Richards fault that you changed your mind and nothing to do with the millions of pounds Man City were throwing at you.

Tosspot

Yes he does seem to be trying to shift the attention a bit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on July 27, 2015, 11:08:23 AM
Mirror reporting that Richards has unfollowed the clubs official twitter account. 

Slow news day?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on July 27, 2015, 12:58:17 PM
Mirror reporting that Richards has unfollowed the clubs official twitter account. 

Slow news day?

Any chance of a link I can't find it? I'm a little confused by the whole thing? Is Micah getting abuse/grief from the press or Villa fans?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 27, 2015, 01:05:29 PM
He probably got fed up with being reminded to "snap up" tickets for Villa vs Sunderland.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on July 27, 2015, 01:57:07 PM
He probably got fed up with being reminded to "snap up" tickets for Villa vs Sunderland.

Indeed. It's such a non story.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:04:38 PM
He probably doesn't need to follow them for information updates, seeing as he you know, works there.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tony Erdington on July 27, 2015, 02:19:55 PM
I wonder if Micah could have a word with  zog
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on July 27, 2015, 02:40:41 PM
Mirror reporting that Richards has unfollowed the clubs official twitter account. 

Slow news day?


Was it Paul Lambets suppository Nursey? If so just add it to the list of bitter stories about Villa since his chum was sacked.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2015, 03:54:09 PM
Volume down...

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: chrisw1 on July 27, 2015, 04:07:47 PM
Looks pretty solid in the warm up games - he's quick and has good feet.  He did put the keeper under pressure with some of the back passes and looks like he took some risks when carrying the ball out of defense which could have been punished.  But given these are just warm ups and blowing the cobwebs away it looked promising to me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2015, 04:13:17 PM
I love his attitude and that's going to be very important to the players around him. He's a very good player that needs to be reminded of that. Sherwood will encourage him to not only be a leader but be again the player he was becoming when got into the England set up. And the England defence isn't one he should be afraid of because a good season and e can certainly get into that Euro 2016 squad.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: chrisw1 on July 27, 2015, 04:18:34 PM

I look forward to seeing a defense of Amavi, Clark, Richards and Hutton.  If they gel it could be a really strong unit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: walsall villain on July 27, 2015, 04:30:56 PM
I love his attitude and that's going to be very important to the players around him. He's a very good player that needs to be reminded of that. Sherwood will encourage him to not only be a leader but be again the player he was becoming when got into the England set up. And the England defence isn't one he should be afraid of because a good season and e can certainly get into that Euro 2016 squad.
Perhaps best for Villa if non if our players get picked for England as it seems they soon get unsettled and become ex Villa players.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2015, 04:34:45 PM
I love his attitude and that's going to be very important to the players around him. He's a very good player that needs to be reminded of that. Sherwood will encourage him to not only be a leader but be again the player he was becoming when got into the England set up. And the England defence isn't one he should be afraid of because a good season and e can certainly get into that Euro 2016 squad.
Perhaps best for Villa if non if our players get picked for England as it seems they soon get unsettled and become ex Villa players.

The flip side being we never get good players joining us because they won't get picked for England. The truth is as a club if we hadn't been totally inept these past few years then players would want to stay with us longer. There's not a massive difference between say us and Everton and somehow they have managed to keep a hold of Baines, Jagielka and Barkley. Firstly we need to stop having such a fear of losing players but more importantly provide those players with a better environment and stop kicking around the arse end of the table year after year.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 27, 2015, 04:53:45 PM
Now come on. We've managed to keep hold of N'Zogbia. What more do you want?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on July 27, 2015, 05:02:57 PM
I love his attitude and that's going to be very important to the players around him. He's a very good player that needs to be reminded of that. Sherwood will encourage him to not only be a leader but be again the player he was becoming when got into the England set up. And the England defence isn't one he should be afraid of because a good season and e can certainly get into that Euro 2016 squad.
Perhaps best for Villa if non if our players get picked for England as it seems they soon get unsettled and become ex Villa players.

I thought it was interesting (and depressing) that Hodgson said Delph's place in the England setup won't be in jeopardy even if he's not playing regularly at City. You just  can't imagine it being the same if the club was Villa  - or a number of others.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villabear on August 05, 2015, 10:27:40 AM
Don't know if it's been reported but on Twitter saying he's been named captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: VillaAlways on August 05, 2015, 10:34:51 AM
Don't know if it's been reported but on Twitter saying he's been named captain.
Yes on the OS now with Gabby as club captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ryu on August 05, 2015, 10:41:01 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villabear on August 05, 2015, 11:08:45 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2015, 11:12:38 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?

Nor me.

I imagine it is like being Bert Cooper in Mad Men.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villabear on August 05, 2015, 11:23:52 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?

Nor me.

I imagine it is like being Bert Cooper in Mad Men.

Bow tie and hardly ever wore shoes indoors. Not as bad as Pete Campbell though, creepy bastard.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: passitsideways on August 05, 2015, 11:27:44 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?

I guess it's a ceremonial/symbolic role for someone who resonates with the common fan, in terms of having a close bond with the club. Probably of value to people out there who do place a value on that, and see it as something weird along the lines of the club having its heart in the right place or something.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on August 05, 2015, 11:28:38 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?
Even team captain - it's not like cricket where the whole strategy for the game is in your hands.

Apart from walking out in front of everyone else and calling the toss of a coin at the start, what else do they do? If they're a good motivator or a good leader then they'll be doing that regardless of whether they have a bit of elastic round their arm.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2015, 11:29:24 AM
I guess it's a ceremonial/symbolic role for someone who resonates with the common fan, in terms of having a close bond with the club.

Like Doug being President Emeritus

*gets coat*
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 05, 2015, 11:32:57 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?
Even team captain - it's not like cricket where the whole strategy for the game is in your hands.

Apart from walking out in front of everyone else and calling the toss of a coin at the start, what else do they do? If they're a good motivator or a good leader then they'll be doing that regardless of whether they have a bit of elastic round their arm.

I love Dennis Mortimer's quote, "In that team the captain had to toss the coin and pick up the trophies."
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: joe_c on August 05, 2015, 11:45:00 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?

Nor me.

I imagine it is like being Bert Cooper in Mad Men.

Captain Emeritus.

I am of course devoting the rest of the day to imagining the characters from Mad Men as players/managers. Alex McLeish would be the secretary who runs over the English ad exec's foot with a lawn mower. Not sure who would be the guy who cut off his nipple and presented it to Peggy.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Stirchley Villain on August 05, 2015, 11:54:17 AM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?

Nor me.

I imagine it is like being Bert Cooper in Mad Men.

Captain Emeritus.

I am of course devoting the rest of the day to imagining the characters from Mad Men as players/managers. Alex McLeish would be the secretary who runs over the English ad exec's foot with a lawn mower. Not sure who would be the guy who cut off his nipple and presented it to Peggy.

Chris Herd?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 05, 2015, 12:05:14 PM
Don't know about Chris Herd, but the guy getting run over by a lawnmower is definitely Nathan Baker.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Drummond on August 05, 2015, 12:20:31 PM
I think that Richards is a good choice; Clark doesn't need the pressure.

Club captain is a role that in essence is like the father of the house in the Commons, an official title for not doing much other than having been around a long time.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2015, 12:25:20 PM
Gabby being club captain is recognition for length of time at the club and his loyalty. He's a good person who does a lot of work with Acorns. It's more an ambassadorial role. It's a good decision by the club to do this.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2015, 12:26:35 PM
I think Clark maybe deserved a good shot but I suppose he has a good attitude and is experienced. 

Good luck to him and hopefully he does us proud as a commanding CB and leader.

Edit:  Does Gabby being club captain suggest that Sherwood doesn't expect him to be a regular starter, or just that he sees him as good in the dressing room but not the best leader on the pitch?
I've never understood 'club captain'. What's the point, is it just to appease someone who isn't going to be playing a lot as Ryu asked?

Nor me.

I imagine it is like being Bert Cooper in Mad Men.

Captain Emeritus.

I am of course devoting the rest of the day to imagining the characters from Mad Men as players/managers. Alex McLeish would be the secretary who runs over the English ad exec's foot with a lawn mower. Not sure who would be the guy who cut off his nipple and presented it to Peggy.

Curcic.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
I think that Richards is a good choice; Clark doesn't need the pressure.

Club captain is a role that in essence is like the father of the house in the Commons, an official title for not doing much other than having been around a long time.

I think they also get to be pointer-in-chief.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Drummond on August 05, 2015, 01:21:01 PM
I think that Richards is a good choice; Clark doesn't need the pressure.

Club captain is a role that in essence is like the father of the house in the Commons, an official title for not doing much other than having been around a long time.

I think they also get to be pointer-in-chief.

And club representative when the real captain doesn't go.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ryu on August 05, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
Now, this might be the 2 Bulmers that I had at lunch but I'm optimistic about Clark and Richards as a central defence pairing.

For so long we've been a calamity at the back waiting to happen that would instantly undo any good work we'd done at the other end in a game.  I'm not totally sure about Richards as a CB but I at least have hope going in to this season!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 05, 2015, 02:09:15 PM
I'm hoping Okore still gets plenty of game time.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on August 05, 2015, 03:04:00 PM
I'm hoping Okore still gets plenty of game time.

I'm happy with him being the 'next off the line' for now but I'd really like to see another that I'm happy with as cover for Clark, I really don't trust Baker, he needs game time but this season we just can't afford to give him it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 05, 2015, 03:48:07 PM
I'm hoping Okore still gets plenty of game time.

I'm happy with him being the 'next off the line' for now but I'd really like to see another that I'm happy with as cover for Clark, I really don't trust Baker, he needs game time but this season we just can't afford to give him it.
Well if you go with the normal left / right orthodoxy, Okore is cover for Richards and Senderos or Baker are covering for Clark.

Where it's really gone tits up for us the last few years is where we've had Clark on the right alongside Baker, or when we've had to field at least one CB who's only half fit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 06, 2015, 02:26:59 PM
Think I would had gone with either Clark or Guzen as captain.  Richards makes sense, but I can see him being a bit injury prone too, and it sends an odd message to other players to give the armband to a player who has just arrived.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
I think it sends a message of this is a fresh new era, which is fine by me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: paul_e on August 06, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Not Guzan, I can#t stand keepers as the captain, just feels wrong.

I'd have been happy with Either Clark or Richards though so this is fine by me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 05:36:58 PM
really excellent today. Just everywhere and as they hopefully stay fit and build a relationship with Clark can become a very nice partnership. We need to protect them better from wide areas but they and Richards in particular did really well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on August 08, 2015, 06:06:47 PM
He's built like a brick shite house but is still quick with it.  I wouldn't want to get in the way when he's charging out for a clearance.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 06:08:45 PM
There's a few times he just bullied the forward off the ball with brute strength.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on August 08, 2015, 06:33:11 PM
His legs are like tree trunks
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on August 08, 2015, 06:47:26 PM
Sort the right back position out and we have a reasonable defence. I'd like a more commanding centre back next to him but not too many clubs seem to play with big brutes up front, a la Carroll, Benteke etc, so perhaps the more mobile Clark is the right choice? I like the fact that the press like Richards and our London contingent as this keeps us in vogue, getting some good coverage. It's only the Mail and the BBC who don't seem to report favourably.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: The Man With A Stick on August 08, 2015, 09:48:32 PM
His legs are like tree trunks

They're like Shaun Teale's ankles.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 09:55:21 PM
Sort the right back position out and we have a reasonable defence. I'd like a more commanding centre back next to him but not too many clubs seem to play with big brutes up front, a la Carroll, Benteke etc, so perhaps the more mobile Clark is the right choice? I like the fact that the press like Richards and our London contingent as this keeps us in vogue, getting some good coverage. It's only the Mail and the BBC who don't seem to report favourably.

I don't give a monkeys what the press think about us, when we won the league over Ipswich, the press were creaming over them but we won the league and that is all that matters. What I do think is that Richards and Clark have the makings of an excellent relationship.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: silhillvilla on August 08, 2015, 10:46:46 PM
First of many MOTM performances today I suspect.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 08, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
Surprised me to be honest but he looked at home there. Love his runs, strength and vision. I will be interested to see how he does against ManU, he is one player of ours who will have no respect for them , I hope he can spread that through the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OCD on August 08, 2015, 11:01:50 PM
We see so often that it takes years for a central defender to learn the job and mature. His time in Italy would have been a great education for him too. He already had the physical attributes. Now he's got the potential to become very good there. With Clark maturing too, they could be a good partnership for a good few years.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
Surprised me to be honest but he looked at home there. Love his runs, strength and vision. I will be interested to see how he does against ManU, he is one player of ours who will have no respect for them , I hope he can spread that through the rest of the team.

He seems to be a positive person from a few conversations heard and reckon he will be a massive asset
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: warleyboy on August 09, 2015, 12:19:18 AM
After the last few years of shite, it would be great if we could have a constant pairing for the whole season.
Hoping Micah and Clark have an injury free season.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 09, 2015, 01:36:56 AM
Surprised me to be honest but he looked at home there. Love his runs, strength and vision. I will be interested to see how he does against ManU, he is one player of ours who will have no respect for them , I hope he can spread that through the rest of the team.

He seems to be a positive person from a few conversations heard and reckon he will be a massive asset


Yeah going by his interviews he really seems very positive. Good to see.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on August 09, 2015, 01:42:48 AM
He seemed to be in charge today, He is a defender who is a top scoop
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on August 09, 2015, 01:43:14 AM
The thing for Richards is that at 27 if he performs every week there are very, very few better defenders out there. What he needs to do though is make sure he does not put in a mistake a game that costs us a goal, which he very nearly did in the first half today. Overall though the 2 of them looked to have a lot of potential, but we need back up for them.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on August 09, 2015, 01:53:44 AM
Ozzyjim, he made one error as you have quite rightly pointed out. Clark made a massive error as well and Guzan sorted that, I have to say Richards v Vlaar is no question to me
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: passitsideways on August 09, 2015, 03:47:04 AM
Apart from his defending which was solid, I did like his willingness to surge forward with the ball to get out of pressure whenever the attacker overcommitted - and of course, he has the burst of pace in him necessary to do that successfully. Okore can sort of do it but our other CBs are a bit sluggish for that, which makes playing it out of the back a little more difficult.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: The Left Side on August 09, 2015, 04:01:51 AM
I loved his reaction to the Villa goal today, he loves us me thinks.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt Collins on August 09, 2015, 07:36:33 AM
Seemed to do really well and it's great to have his physicality and mentality back there

All three Bournemouth chances did come from villa mistakes though (Richards, Clark, and I forget the third). Let's hope we can cut that out
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ryu on August 09, 2015, 03:09:53 PM
With his power, pace and aggression forwards are not going to get an easy ride against us this season. Throw in Clark who isn't as powerful but these days seems more than willing to cut players in half and we might have quite an intimidating pairing at the back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: gervilla on August 09, 2015, 06:39:06 PM
Fingers crossed both Richards and Clark get a good run together. They looked good yesterday. Our CB pairings chopped and changed too much last season due to injuries.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: avfcpg on August 09, 2015, 06:43:35 PM
Seemed to do really well and it's great to have his physicality and mentality back there

All three Bournemouth chances did come from villa mistakes though (Richards, Clark, and I forget the third). Let's hope we can cut that out

I said the same...all 3 chances were from losing the ball when maybe overplaying at the back. Good to see them confident enough to do it though and they played it out well at times...sometimes Row Z will do though. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt Collins on August 09, 2015, 09:29:30 PM
I didn't think they were overplaying? Wasn't it Richards Mis controlling, Clark trying to play offside, Clark needlessly fouling on the half way line?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on August 09, 2015, 10:02:33 PM
One thing that did strike me is how easily I can see us switching to 3-5-2 at some points this season and using Amavi and Bacuna as deep wingers more than defensive players as they are both perfect wing backs, while Okore, Richards and Clark are all comfortable enough on the ball to play in a 3 and step out. So is Lescott, should that move happen before the end of the window.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on November 22, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
I have been less impressed with Richards of late.  I starting to wonder whether he is the right player to be building the defence around and leading the team.

I am probably wrong but he looks a loner on the pitch and aloof from the situation going on around him.  Is his attitude right?  Has Sherwood going affected him?  Does he have what it takes to play central defence?

I have started to notice mistakes and poor play creeping into his game.  A poster mentioned it in the match thread when Lukaku scored with his header, both players went to ground and whereas the Everton player stepped backwards into space, Richards chased the ball out towards the player on the bye-line, leaving Lukaku completely unmarked.

I am not sure that he works well with Hutton.  There seems to be a lack of communication between them.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Richard on November 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PM
Man City got rid for reasons other than injuries, they recognised he was not quite up to it

Then again I really think he'd make a better right back
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on November 22, 2015, 09:17:51 PM
The Hutton/Richards axis is really poor, the Clark/Richardson is worse. Added to that Richards/Clark has never convinced really, Richards got motm against City but thought he was at fault for the three chances City missed. Behind them Guzan is crap while Lescott isnt a replacement option

In summary, there is a reason we are bottom of the league.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on November 22, 2015, 09:23:57 PM
He's not a centre back. Strikers pull off him too easily.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on November 22, 2015, 09:27:52 PM
I have never rated Richards as a centre half and yesterday to make things worse Clark had a terrible game.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: peter w on November 22, 2015, 09:39:54 PM
So, would people re-sign Vlaar on a short-term contract?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: KevinGage on November 22, 2015, 09:46:34 PM
Richards is a funny one.

He does so many things well in a game, could almost be classed as a leader in some respects (or the nearest thing we currently have to one).  In a good side, having a centre half who can surge up the field as well as he can to join in with the play would be a huge asset.

And yet for many of the goals we have conceded, or even chances ceced to the opposition, he is often directly responsible.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 22, 2015, 10:16:05 PM
So, would people re-sign Vlaar on a short-term contract?

Yes. I was never a fan of his but compared to Lescott he's like the second coming of Paul McGrath.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on November 22, 2015, 10:27:22 PM
Has Vlaar said anything since leaving Villa?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on November 22, 2015, 10:32:23 PM
Richards is big and physical but switches off and doesn't get class see enough in the box way too often. Has done ok at centre back but, given the choice, I'd be looking to sign at least one centre back in January and moving him to right back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: peter w on November 22, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
Has Vlaar said anything since leaving Villa?

Ouch.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 22, 2015, 10:34:07 PM
He's not a centre back. Strikers pull off him too easily.

Strikers don't need to, Richards goes AWOL every time the opposition attack. He's like a 7 year old in the playground, chasing the ball where ever it may be. He's never going to be a decent centre half. What was worrying yesterday was Clark seems to have started copying him too though that may have been down to our pathetic first half defensive midfield.

Bring Jores back to replace Richards and if he is no better (that would be really difficult), buy a proper right sided centre half on the 1st of January. We need leadership too so if we can get that into the bargain, so much the better.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 23, 2015, 12:12:51 AM
There's a reason why his best / most successful days have been as a right back and not a centreback.

The sooner Okore is fit enough to play and shove Richards out to right back we'll be a lot more robust at the back in more ways than one.

(Not so much as a whisper in the Danish media as to how close Okore is to a comeback.)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on November 23, 2015, 12:19:47 PM
He'll be fine in his rightful position of right back
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on November 23, 2015, 12:27:48 PM
I think we'll look back at the signing of Richards as a huge mistake unless we push him to right back.

To pander to a player by agreeing to let him play in a certain position and give him the captaincy (No idea if this was also promised, just a guess) is a huge mistake.
Like Stephen Ireland, he's actually only had one good season.



Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on November 23, 2015, 01:33:00 PM
I think Richards has been a great buy. We'd have lost games by a lot more goals had it not been for him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 23, 2015, 01:40:37 PM
Has Vlaar said anything since leaving Villa?

Ouch.

Where's the physio
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 23, 2015, 01:44:59 PM
I think Richards has been a great buy. We'd have lost games by a lot more goals had it not been for him.

Given he was on a free, I'd agree that he's been excellent value for money :).

Seriously, he's been OK from what I've seen but prone to some expensive bouts of ball watching where he gets caught way out of position, which given he's playing alongside either Clark or Lescott, neither of whom could be described as pacey,is a bit unfortunate as it means he's got to cover his own f¤¤k ups.

I'd feel a lot more confident with him at right back and Okore inside him. Amavi's injury is a real shame.  I think a back four of Richards-Okore- Clark-Amavi would have done alright.  Certainly enough pace to allow us to push 10 yards further up the pitch against most teams.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 23, 2015, 01:52:03 PM
I thought Amavi was dog shit as a defender and would be much better suited playing as a left sided midfielder with a more traditionally hutton type left back behind him
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on November 24, 2015, 02:58:51 AM
I think Richards has been a great buy. We'd have lost games by a lot more goals had it not been for him.

If we had actually bought someone half decent that wasn't as poor as him, we might not have lost as many either.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: itbrvilla on November 24, 2015, 05:42:55 AM
I think Richards has been a great buy. We'd have lost games by a lot more goals had it not been for him.

If with had actually bought someone half decent that wasn't as poor as him, we might not have lost as many either.
I agree
 Not convinced.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villafirst on November 24, 2015, 06:01:16 AM
I think Richards is ok, the problem is the weak midfield in front of him. Okore would add more strength, but where is he?? I thought he was fit now after knee surgery....
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on November 24, 2015, 06:38:16 AM
I think Richards is ok, the problem is the weak midfield in front of him. Okore would add more strength, but where is he?? I thought he was fit now after knee surgery....

Okore needs a long run in the team, he's only started something like 20 odd league games since he signed and one of them was the St Mary's horror show. Is he another injury prone CB? I hope not.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mister E on November 24, 2015, 07:40:29 AM
I think Richards is ok, the problem is the weak midfield in front of him. Okore would add more strength, but where is he?? I thought he was fit now after knee surgery....

Okore needs a long run in the team, he's only started something like 20 odd league games since he signed and one of them was the St Mary's horror show. Is he another injury prone CB? I hope not.
Well, either "yes" or he has a substance-abuse problem, or some suchlike.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 24, 2015, 07:52:49 AM
I think Richards is ok, the problem is the weak midfield in front of him. Okore would add more strength, but where is he?? I thought he was fit now after knee surgery....

Okore needs a long run in the team, he's only started something like 20 odd league games since he signed and one of them was the St Mary's horror show. Is he another injury prone CB? I hope not.
Well, either "yes" or he has a substance-abuse problem, or some suchlike.

okore is a strange one and not much from the club in the past 3 weeks

he played a couple of games before his bad injury and based on what i have seen since he has been mediocre and nothing more. im pinning no hopes on him
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: john e on November 24, 2015, 12:24:13 PM
Richards has had more good performances than bad ones since he joined, MOTM a few times also

the whole team is low on confidence I saw the Man City defence look like the keystone cops on Saturday so it can happen to the best, but I wouldn't be dropping him in a hurry at the moment he is a battler which we need
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on November 26, 2015, 11:39:39 PM
Finally someone saying it as it is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/12019414/Micah-Richards-Too-many-Aston-Villa-players-are-not-willing-to-run-the-extra-yard.html
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: andyh on November 27, 2015, 04:22:18 AM
Hmmmm, not sure how that article is going to help.
Seems to me there are some real divisions within the club.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 04:37:27 AM
I very much imagine Remi Garde will be having words with him about that article. Counter productive to say the least from a player who has shown some massive shortcomings in his games for us, not least of all fighting in the tunnel and getting a completely unnecessary ban.  Needs to get himself sorted out before he can point the finger at his team mates.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on November 27, 2015, 04:47:13 AM
From the outside looking in it just seems like our dressing room is horribly divided.  Our culture sounds appalling for a PL outfit.

First the unhelpful comments from Sherwood about the French players, that cretin Wilkins telling the world we weren't good enough to stay up and now Richards questioning certain players desire.  I suspect it may be true but why not just keep your mouth shut. 

Nothing good will come of going to the national press with it.




Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ron Manager on November 27, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
I like a player who tells it as it is and he certainly has.If Tim Sherwood could not get his ideas over to the French players that is the clubs fault and it should have been addressed. Richards is not happy and does not disguise it
His mate Lescott being useless cannot help his frame of mind.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tuscans on November 27, 2015, 05:35:58 AM
The Micah interview from the telegraph....

Micah Richards is sitting in a dressing room at Aston Villa’s training ground and pulling no punches on the season so far. He always knew his first season back in the Premier League would be difficult, but this has been an eye-opening experience that even he cannot have envisaged when he bid farewell to Florence.

Tim Sherwood, the manager who signed him, was sacked in October after 10 games and Villa are bottom of the table under Rémi Garde, with fears growing that this could be the season they are relegated. Last weekend at Everton, Villa produced arguably their worst performance of the campaign in losing 4-0, with Richards admitting that an 8-0 defeat would have been a fair reflection.
And ahead of Saturday’s huge game against Watford, the time has come for a few home truths from the captain, in a brutally honest assessment of the club’s struggles.


“I’m not going to sugarcoat it, we’ve got too many nice players and we’re too easy to play against,” he said. “Everybody seems to be – I wouldn’t say passing the blame – but they don’t want to run that extra mile and take responsibility. I’m not big on stats but I think we’ve run the least in the Premier League – if you’re not prepared to run the extra yard for your team-mate then obviously you’re going to concede chances.
“When we’ve got the ball we’re fine but defensively we’re too nice and it’s too easy to get past us. We haven’t got the players who have the mentality to not lose the game.
“There’s a few good players in the team and they’re probably thinking, ‘If Villa get relegated I’ll get a move in the summer’ – but it doesn’t work like that any more. They’ve got a massive chance at Villa, a club with great tradition and great facilities, and we need to realise the situation we’re in now.


“People said we’d always struggle when [Fabian] Delph and [Christian] Benteke went, but that’s gone now. Get that out of your head. Go and show that you’re the next Benteke and we don’t need them. That’s the attitude I have.”
How Garde could do with more players like Richards, who has led by example for much of the season and grasped what is at stake. Richards could have signed for a number of other Premier League clubs this summer after his contract at Manchester City expired. He had talks with West Ham United and Sunderland, but Sherwood’s sales pitch swung him to Villa, despite five years of the club battling against relegation.
But soon after the defender’s arrival, Delph jumped ship to join Richards' former club City, barely a week after insisting he would stay, while talismanic striker Benteke moved to Liverpool for £32.5million. Villa signed 12 players over the summer, with many of the new recruits coming from Ligue 1 in France, yet there is already huge pressure on chairman Randy Lerner to spend in January to save their season. When Richards is asked if Premier League experience is lacking, his response is admirably honest again. “Yeah, I think it is. You need experience in the Premier League and the players that will go over and beyond for you.


“I don’t want to blame anything on the new players. When I went to Italy [he spent a season on loan at Fiorentina] I wasn’t expecting to be the best player there. But we’ve had people come from France, Spain and the Championship and they need time.
“It’s not about if they’re not good enough, they need time to adapt and we haven’t got that now. The new manager has come in and hopefully he can get the best out of the French players, because there were certain things Tim was trying to get across that they didn’t understand because of the language barrier.”
Now 27, Richards has an abundance of experience at the top level of English football, ever since his star-is-born performance for City at Villa Park in a 2006 FA Cup tie. He flashes that trademark smile when you remind him of that game, when he scored a dramatic equaliser, ran into the crowd to celebrate and then dropped the F-bomb in a live post-match interview with Garth Crooks.


He has since lifted a Premier League title and the FA Cup under Roberto Mancini at City, made 13 appearances for England and played at the London Olympics in 2012. Relegation battles are nothing new, however.
“People think because I was at City that I’ve only won leagues and cups, but I was there when we were struggling. They don’t understand that I’ve been through this before when I was younger, so I know what it takes to get out of it. It’s just whether the other players understand what we’re in, do you know what I mean?”
Richards talks fondly of that season at Fiorentina, even though he made only seven league starts. He embraced life in Italy, and could have stayed in Serie A, but the lure of returning to the Premier League was always there.
“It was weird at Fiorentina, because I wouldn’t sign a contract and commit, so they played somebody else. But I definitely think it was still a good move and living in Florence was probably one of the best times of my life,” he said. “The football isn’t anywhere near the Premier League, though. There’s a lot of good technical players but it’s a little bit slower and boring to watch. This is more suited to me.

Despite their travails, Richards 'has enjoyed every single minute' at Villa
“Coming here was a massive relief for me and, to be honest, apart from the situation we’re in, I’ve enjoyed every single minute. I knew this wasn’t going to be easy but I still didn’t think it would be this tough.”
After two games in charge, Garde is acutely aware of the task ahead and Villa will face Watford five points adrift of 17th-placed Newcastle. There have also been further unpalatable headlines this week after footage emerged of Jack Grealish partying in a Manchester nightclub after last weekend’s defeat at Everton. Richards is determined to lead a response after that nightmare.
“We came up against an amazing team and they capitalised on all our weaknesses. It was lucky to be 4-0, it should have been 8-0, to be honest. It was like a training game for them. I think we had one shot all afternoon. Now we’ve got a massive game against Watford and if we win we can cut the gap on the teams above us. It’s not over for us, just look at Leicester last season.
“I like a challenge and if we get out of this we will have done very well. We have to stop the talking and just do it.”
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on November 27, 2015, 07:35:30 AM
Quote from: Micah Richards
"We have to stop the talking and just do it.”

I wonder if he appreciates the irony that he is pretty much the only player who seems to be giving lengthy interviews on the subject at the moment.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on November 27, 2015, 08:16:17 AM
Quote from: Micah Richards
"We have to stop the talking and just do it.”

I wonder if he appreciates the irony that he is pretty much the only player who seems to be giving lengthy interviews on the subject at the moment.

I agree. Captain motormouth. Yes he's arguably our best defender, the best of a bad bunch, but I wonder if Tim is still feeding him shit from behind the scenes. Keep it shut Micah and start proving it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on November 27, 2015, 08:17:47 AM
I don't think he's said too much wrong in that interview, we all know we're too nice a team and easy to play against. That said, maybe laying off any more interviews and getting on with it would probably be best for now.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 09:03:27 AM
I think it absolutely essential that criticism of team mates is done behind closed doors. What earthly good can come of public displays of disunity?  Unless of course the intention is to show support for Sherwood and if that were the case Remi Garde is going to take an even dimmer view of the article.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on November 27, 2015, 09:04:37 AM
I don't like how he's thrown the French players under the bus there. Couldn't understand what Dim is trying to get across? We signed them knowing they were French so we've got to help them understand, not give up on them after 7 or 8 games the fucking idiots. I can't imagine it would have been anything more than ''facking passion and balls, where's the facking passion and balls!!''
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on November 27, 2015, 09:06:04 AM
Richards is no centre back and certainly no captain of Villa either. He'll be one of the first ****** throwing his toys out of the pram when we go down for a transfer.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 27, 2015, 09:19:49 AM
Richards is no centre back and certainly no captain of Villa either. He'll be one of the first c***s throwing his toys out of the pram when we go down for a transfer.

This

He has been average at best and when we go a goal behind at VP is he rolling his sleeves up and trying to gee everyone up?

is he fuck
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: itbrvilla on November 27, 2015, 09:25:26 AM
He a prick, very average and a twat.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 09:40:45 AM
The more I read that article the more it comes across as pay back for being told to play at right back.

MR). I don't want to play right back.
RG).  You will play wherever I want you to play.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on November 27, 2015, 09:46:57 AM
Have I missed something? When has he played at right back for us?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 09:53:42 AM
Did I say he had played right back?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on November 27, 2015, 10:00:06 AM
Did I say he had played right back?

Well, you're kind of suggesting that he's been told to play there without much proof of it. You may be right, but let's see if it actually happens before we accuse him of throwing his toys out the pram.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villasjf on November 27, 2015, 10:00:47 AM
I see he puts his arms behind his back when in our penalty box presumably so as not to give away a penalty if the ball hits his arms. By doing this he loses his balance easily and falls over easily.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on November 27, 2015, 10:05:09 AM
I can see why people wouldn't be a fan of him coming out like this, but to be honest nothing else happens to be working at the moment, so maybe public shaming will gee them up a bit

I like Richards and I like the way he clearly gives a fuck about us. Everyone's always moaning about players who are the complete opposite of him (N'Zogbia, Gabby etc), so it's refreshing to see someone who actually does have passion in him

At the end of the day, if every player in our squad had his mentality and drive on the pitch to go with their individual talents then we wouldn't be in the relegation zone.

At the moment him and Amavi are our player of the seasons by a country mile, i'm fed up of seeing him having to be the one driving through the middle to try and start an attack because the rest of the squad have been unable to, hes a centre back for f*ck sake.

I also felt for him against Everton, clearly exasperated by the hollow centre midfield we had in Westwood and Gueye, leaving both him and Clark completely exposed.

He probably shouldn't have come out like this in public, but I won't be criticising him for it, these players obviously need a kick up the arse and the internal geeing up is obviously not working.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on November 27, 2015, 10:09:05 AM
The more I read that article the more it comes across as pay back for being told to play at right back.

MR). I don't want to play right back.
RG).  You will play wherever I want you to play.


Seems a strange thing to say. An attitude problem has been completely fabricated on the basis he prefers to play centre back and is being played there. You've no idea what Garde or Richards have said or not said. So, now he's come out and said what all the fans have been thinking themselves, it's suddenly some sort of throwing the toys out of the pram because he's been asked to switch position? okay then..
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 10:09:28 AM
My little snippet of fictional dialogue between Micah Richards and Remi Garde is a condensed imaginary snapshot of an ongoing and probably heated discussion at Villa Park about whether a proven player of great ability is being used to the team's best advantage. That such a debate is going on is not in question.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 10:13:22 AM
I have not "fabricated an attitude problem".  My words were I don't want to play right back.
What I am doing is speaking up for the team mates he has slated in a national newspaper
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on November 27, 2015, 10:13:50 AM
My little snippet of fictional dialogue between Micah Richards and Remi Garde is a condensed imaginary snapshot of an ongoing and probably heated discussion at Villa Park about whether a proven player of great ability is being used to the team's best advantage. That such a debate is going on is not in question.

Well up until this weekend Okore hasn't been fit enough to play, neither has Ilori.

Everyone suggesting Richards at right back is the best team, has also had one of those two at centre back.

Unless you'd prefer to have a centre back partnership of two left footers in Lescott and Clark, at the expense of Hutton playing at right back, then it's been an unnecessary debate
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on November 27, 2015, 10:39:47 AM
I am not convinced with Richards at centre back, and we do not look as solid there as we did with Clark and Okore last season. Don't want him played at right back though as Hutton has been one of our best players and doesn't deserve dropping.

I am getting tired of seeing Richards gobbing off in the press at every opportunity. It started with him recommending Man City to Delph, and rarely does his press interaction ever seem to be putting Villa's best interests first. He should not be slagging his team mates in public. I don't want him to remain as captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on November 27, 2015, 10:49:18 AM
I am not convinced with Richards at centre back...Don't want him played at right back though as Hutton has been one of our best players and doesn't deserve dropping...
So what would you do with him?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 27, 2015, 10:56:20 AM
Personally I think Hutton is shite
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 27, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
Just on 5Live that he's done an interview with Pat Murphy and we can all enjoy watching it when it's aired tomorrow.
The snippet they played basically had Richards saying we were shite/lucky against ManCi£y, our players have no belief in their own ability and we are in deep shit.
Lovely!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on November 27, 2015, 11:18:12 AM
He's just the leader we need, a deep mistrust of foreigner players, error prone and mourning the departure of a terrible manager.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 27, 2015, 11:37:23 AM
Just on 5Live that he's done an interview with Pat Murphy and we can all enjoy watching it when it's aired tomorrow.
The snippet they played basically had Richards saying we were shite/lucky against ManCi£y, our players have no belief in their own ability and we are in deep shit.
Lovely!
Sorry, it's on 5Live tonight.
Won't make very good viewing on the wireless!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 27, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
Personally I think Hutton is shite

You're entitled to your opinion of course.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 27, 2015, 11:45:49 AM
Personally I think Hutton is shite

You're entitled to your opinion of course.

I don't think he's very good, either, if you compare him to the rest of the league, but if you compare him to some of the dross in our side, he's easily good enough.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 27, 2015, 11:54:22 AM
Personally I think Hutton is shite

You're entitled to your opinion of course.

I don't think he's very good, either, if you compare him to the rest of the league, but if you compare him to some of the dross in our side, he's easily good enough.

It just shows you that not everyone loves a trier. He's exactly the type of player you can trust to apply himself to the very best of his ability and drag us out of this situation. An anti-Jack if you will.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on November 27, 2015, 11:57:18 AM
It will be interesting to see how Remi Garde interprets this interview. Personally I think it is really unhelpful and unprofessional from our current club captain given the circumstances and timing. To focus on our result against Man City (table leaders) as just lucky rather than well deserved through hard work is extremely negative. Compare that attitude and mind set to the Carlos Sanchez interview? I know who's I prefer. Link it to his banning following the Swansea game I don't think he is captain material. I would like to be proven wrong long term but I wouldn't be surprised if this costs him his position as captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on November 27, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
In our time of need we do seem to be imploding rather badly.

Remi must wonder what he's let himself in for.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on November 27, 2015, 12:09:47 PM
It will be interesting to see how Remi Garde interprets this interview. Personally I think it is really unhelpful and unprofessional from our current club captain given the circumstances and timing. To focus on our result against Man City (table leaders) as just lucky rather than well deserved through hard work is extremely negative. Compare that attitude and mind set to the Carlos Sanchez interview? I know who's I prefer. Link it to his banning following the Swansea game I don't think he is captain material. I would like to be proven wrong long term but I wouldn't be surprised if this costs him his position as captain.

I think that is the 2nd Strike for Richards after the Hope He (Garde) Makes Speak Them Speak English comment. Either he is utterly Thick, Has No Self Awareness or a mixture of both.

As others stated it may be that Garde wants him to go back to his initial position Right Back - where he was better as others have stated - which is probably what Sherwood told him wouldn't be the case.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on November 27, 2015, 12:19:53 PM
It sounds a bit like 'working his ticket' to me
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CJ on November 27, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Can't say I disagree with a single word he's said tbh - after all it's only what we're all saying. Putting it in the public domain via the media as team captain however is a different matter, and smacks of getting his excuses in early in a Sherwood-stylee ready to be off if we drop.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nelly on November 27, 2015, 12:34:35 PM
Apologies if this has been posted but yhis interview he's done has really rubbed me the wrong way. Why be so publically vocal in putting down your own team mates? Idiot. I'd strip him of the captaincy.

Edit: Sorry it had been posted.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on November 27, 2015, 12:40:00 PM
Just on 5Live that he's done an interview with Pat Murphy and we can all enjoy watching it when it's aired tomorrow.
The snippet they played basically had Richards saying we were shite/lucky against ManCi£y, our players have no belief in their own ability and we are in deep shit.
Lovely!
Sorry, it's on 5Live tonight.
Won't make very good viewing on the wireless!

I have no doubt Richards has a winners attitude and hates losing, I like that kind of player. What I don't like with him is he doesn't really care about us, where is the galvanising captains attitude? If a captain sense's players are down I want one to pick them up, if a captain senses the new guys aren't intergrating well then I want a captain that helps them cross the divide. I think Micah could be a leader but not for us, he doesn't care about Aston Villa really I feel. If we aren't good enough I want a captain who rallys everyone he can to put in some extra work. Basically I'd love a captain who doesn't want to go down with the ship because he has every intention of staying loyal to his ship. Micah is the opposite, over the course of the season, if things stay as bad as they are, I expect more public comments and for him to attempt a Dim Tim and distance himself from this mess and line himself up for a rat leaving the sinking ship manoeuvre in the summer.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on November 27, 2015, 12:42:22 PM
I think it is time to circle the wagons and go into siege mentality. No more player interviews other than controlled ones through the club media.

There should be two people speaking for the club, Garde and Fox.

The media smells blood and are digging the knife in whatever way they can.  In this situation, what happens at Chelsea, only the manager speaks. We should take on the same approach and try and build a unified team spirit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on November 27, 2015, 12:43:39 PM
In our time of need we do seem to be imploding rather badly.

Remi must wonder what he's let himself in for.

The root causes of the problems will all rise to the surface. A club can't be continually as bad as we have been without a lot of bad stuff behind the scenes that we never get to hear about. Players lacking professionalism and Captains airing dirty linen in public doesn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on November 27, 2015, 01:00:08 PM
Spit the gum out, shut your mouth, control yourself and be a proper captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 01:06:51 PM
I would not be so annoyed with his back paging if he really was "telling it how it is" and "saying what the fans are saying" but he is not.  If he was doing that he would have the courage to say "Gabby is too fat" or "Richardson can't tackle" or "Grealish does not work hard enough" or "Guzan's judgement is terrible" or "Lescott is not up to it any more". Instead he makes blanket accusations which the media present as Sherwoodisms. Villa are in the cart because they bought useless foreign Money ball players who don't give a shit for the club.

This is simply untrue. The worst contributors to our calamity are the old guard.  The new, so called Moneyball players have pulled up no trees but their shortcomings have been as nothing compared to Gabby, Westwood, Guzan, Richardson, N'Zogbia, Clark and Bacuna, but the Richards broadsides will reverberate around Sherwoodland as vindication of him and blame on anybody and everybody else at the club. Sherwood will go into folklore as a victim.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on November 27, 2015, 01:12:37 PM
I would not be so annoyed with his back paging if he really was "telling it how it is" and "saying what the fans are saying" but he is not.  If he was doing that he would have the courage to say "Gabby is too fat" or "Richardson can't tackle" or "Grealish does not work hard enough" or "Guzan's judgement is terrible" or "Lescott is not up to it any more". Instead he makes blanket accusations which the media present as Sherwoodisms. Villa are in the cart because they bought useless foreign Money ball players who don't give a shit for the club.

This is simply untrue. The worst contributors to our calamity are the old guard.  The new, so called Moneyball players have pulled up no trees but their shortcomings have been as nothing compared to Gabby, Westwood, Guzan, Richardson, N'Zogbia, Clark and Bacuna, but the Richards broadsides will reverberate around Sherwoodland as vindication of him and blame on anybody and everybody else at the club. Sherwood will go into folklore as a victim.

I think singling players out would have been a dreadful thing to do personally and probably would have been worse than what he'd actually said.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 27, 2015, 01:19:04 PM
Now that he's said what he's said he better start showing it on he pitch. Being a leader isn't just about what you say, it is how you say it, and how you act. I don't have an issue with the article of it has the overall desired affect. I would hope he ran it by the club before giving it. The last thing we need is the captain going rogue.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 02:00:31 PM
Clampy, I am not advocating him singling out players to blame. I don't think claims made on his behalf that he is "only telling it how it is" and "saying what the fans are saying" can hold up without naming names. If he can't/won't say who he holds responsible he should say nothing.  Generalised attacks on the players serve only to put the media into a feeding frenzy and make Remi Garde's job even harder.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ron Manager on November 27, 2015, 02:17:51 PM
Do thepayig staff have to get permission from the club before giving interviews to the press?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Darth Villa on November 27, 2015, 02:43:28 PM
He's no captain and an idiot to boot. He may have a winning mentality that some of our other players are badly missing but he plays for himself not the team and from what I've seen of him at CB he can't organise a back line. There's no need for him to air his opinions on his team mates in the media. If he has a problem with some of them then maybe he should try sorting it out privately and build up some rapport and moral with his team mates like a decent captain would.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on November 27, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
He's no captain and an idiot to boot. He may have a winning mentality that some of our other players are badly missing but he plays for himself not the team and from what I've seen of him at CB he can't organise a back line. There's no need for him to air his opinions on his team mates in the media. If he has a problem with some of them then maybe he should try sorting it out privately and build up some rapport and moral with his team mates like a decent captain would.

Not seen you before Darth, but that is very well put. Clichéd to say but it is a team game and they need some camaraderie.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on November 27, 2015, 03:20:47 PM
It sounds a bit like 'working his ticket' to me

Sadly you may well be right.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Darth Villa on November 27, 2015, 03:35:21 PM
He's no captain and an idiot to boot. He may have a winning mentality that some of our other players are badly missing but he plays for himself not the team and from what I've seen of him at CB he can't organise a back line. There's no need for him to air his opinions on his team mates in the media. If he has a problem with some of them then maybe he should try sorting it out privately and build up some rapport and moral with his team mates like a decent captain would.

Not seen you before Darth, but that is very well put. Clichéd to say but it is a team game and they need some camaraderie.


Cheers Malandro, been lurking here for years... I only rear my head in times of turmoil, a bit like an web based version of the Arthurian legend.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: glinch on November 27, 2015, 03:58:35 PM
He's no captain and an idiot to boot. He may have a winning mentality that some of our other players are badly missing but he plays for himself not the team and from what I've seen of him at CB he can't organise a back line. There's no need for him to air his opinions on his team mates in the media. If he has a problem with some of them then maybe he should try sorting it out privately and build up some rapport and moral with his team mates like a decent captain would.

Not seen you before Darth, but that is very well put. Clichéd to say but it is a team game and they need some camaraderie.


Cheers Malandro, been lurking here for years... I only rear my head in times of turmoil, a bit like an web based version of the Arthurian legend.

I might not go as far as calling him an idiot, but agree with everything else! Seems to have a pretty lofty opinion of himself, needs to worry about doing his own job right first. Wasn't sure why he was made captain in the first place either. Time to keep your mouth shut and do the business on the pitch.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on November 27, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
So what would you do with him?

Name a new captain, and drop him to the bench when Okore is fit.

As an aside I wish we had given Senderos a squad number, he is a better centre back than both Richards and Lescott.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 27, 2015, 04:11:28 PM
Should imagine Sherwood used the captaincy thing as a bit of a carrot to get him to sign...."We think you're brilliant you can play where you like, you're obviously a born leader Micah, so if you fancy the arm-band mate, it's yours. One of those French blokes will wash yer motor, you can be first in the bath and there's a couple of extra notes for you at the end of the week."
Sorted.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on November 27, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
So what would you do with him?

Name a new captain, and drop him to the bench when Okore is fit.

As an aside I wish we had given Senderos a squad number, he is a better centre back than both Richards and Lescott.

I may not be happy with His attitude but he's one of the best players we have, I wouldn't be benching him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on November 27, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
I may not be happy with His attitude but he's one of the best players we have, I wouldn't be benching him.

Clark and Okore had a decent partnership last season when they had a run in the team together. Better than any pairing Richards has been in this season. It's his poor positional awareness that is the problem, it would less of a problem at right back, but Hutton is doing OK there.

Of course he might look better in a back three, but not sure we have the midfield options for that system.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on November 27, 2015, 04:36:03 PM
So what would you do with him?

Name a new captain, and drop him to the bench when Okore is fit.
Surely if you have no faith in him at Centre Back or Right Back that means you wouldn't use him as a substitute doesn't it?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on November 27, 2015, 04:43:16 PM
Surely if you have no faith in him at Centre Back or Right Back that means you wouldn't use him as a substitute doesn't it?

It's not that I have no faith in him as a player, so much as I think we have a better right back (Hutton), and our best centre back pairing is Clark and Okore (when fit). He is more than good enough to be on the bench.

I don't have any faith in him as a captain though.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: bob on November 27, 2015, 05:24:52 PM
He's clearly thick as fuck
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on November 27, 2015, 09:34:28 PM
So what would you do with him?

Name a new captain, and drop him to the bench when Okore is fit.

As an aside I wish we had given Senderos a squad number, he is a better centre back than both Richards and Lescott.

Leading by example Sanchez would be a better captain (in my opinion).

Yeah Senderos played well when he was fit. Hopefully we can name him in the squad in Jan if he's fit etc and you can do that sort of malarky.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 27, 2015, 09:54:54 PM
I cannot believe even Alan Huttons mum  would suggest he is a better right back than Richards. The man is a winner, no wonder he is pist off and not sure why he is getting pelters. He was crap at Everton, but I would say he is one of the few players who seems to care. He was only saying what many of us have been saying
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 10:20:03 PM
That is the beef though VFL.  He is not saying what we are saying. He is saying what Sherwood was saying. He is slagging off the team of which he is captain. The atmosphere in the dressing room tomorrow will be exactly the opposite of what it should be and Richard's comments to a national newspaper and R5L will be substantially to blame.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 27, 2015, 10:30:47 PM
That is the beef though VFL.  He is not saying what we are saying. He is saying what Sherwood was saying. He is slagging off the team of which he is captain. The atmosphere in the dressing room tomorrow will be exactly the opposite of what it should be and Richard's comments to a national newspaper and R5L will be substantially to blame.

I'm at all siding with him here though it might appear I am. But maybe, what he's saying is correct. I don't agree in how he has delivered the message as it might backfire on him. But we are too nice, we do need a kick up the arse, because truthfully we have been pushovers for a long time. I'm not saying it has anything to do with us signing foreign players, and a bit of English would fix it, because the English or British lads have been just as soft. But as a club we've been everyone's whipping boys for too long. Whether this has the desired affect remains to be seen but I don't necessarily disagree with the underlying message he is delivering.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on November 27, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
These are times of crisis. It is simply not the time for airing grievances via the media. I am sorely tempted to consider the view of my valued friend Bob that Richards is simply thick.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on November 27, 2015, 11:21:52 PM
I hate to think what stripping him of the captaincy would do to him and ultimately us.
We just don't have a "leader" in the 25 man squad. Sure, we have players who we think could do it but we don't have a leader
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: West Derby Villan on November 27, 2015, 11:42:02 PM
Swapping and changing players has been our problem for the last few seasons. No one feels secure in their position and understanding with team mates only comes with a settled line up. We rode our luck against Man Citeh and the future was brighter, we got roasted by a good blue scouse and we are back to square one. Both of these matches were never win-able on our recent form but I think tomorrow is a pointer. I believe that MR has been a leader and one of our more consistent performers this season. A settled team is what is required to stay up
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 28, 2015, 12:09:28 AM
That is the beef though VFL.  He is not saying what we are saying. He is saying what Sherwood was saying. He is slagging off the team of which he is captain. The atmosphere in the dressing room tomorrow will be exactly the opposite of what it should be and Richard's comments to a national newspaper and R5L will be substantially to blame.

If he sits meekly and says nothing, will it be better? Dion Dublin was saying this week the players should front up and say hpw sit they have been. We need players to show some balls, who can we trust? I thought Vertout showed last week he will battle, Ayew also even if not his position. Richards is, Clark was awful but will not concede and Sanchez may not be everyones cup of tea but I like the bloke. I don't think he was doing a Sherwood thing, we knew it was going to be a tough start but not the shite it has been
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: GarTomas on November 28, 2015, 12:24:47 AM
Is there a link to the 5Live Interview?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on November 28, 2015, 12:39:56 AM
If he had bloody scored from a yard out against Sunderland and organised the back 4 a bit better at Leicester might not be in this situation either.

It is easy to point fingers. His job is to rally a unified side on the pitch to run through walls for each other.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 28, 2015, 12:53:19 AM
If he had bloody scored from a yard out against Sunderland and organised the back 4 a bit better at Leicester might not be in this situation either.

It is easy to point fingers. His job is to rally a unified side on the pitch to run through walls for each other.

If my aunt had bollocks she would be my uncle. As for Leicester there is one person to blame for that, you are 2-0 up, albeit luckily, get a defensive player on for Gil or Grealish. No, lets bring on Gestede for Gil. Total bollox. Don't blame Richards for that
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on November 28, 2015, 01:09:47 AM
I don't VFL I was simply making the point that Richards pointing the finger in the dressing room is a completely futile act. We all know the previous manager, basically through complete incompetence through a game, threw away maybe 6-8 points this season, but just as easily if you are pointing it at individual players they all have their faults. Richards as captain and leader has been highlighted more than once for his poor organisation of the back 4, Westwood has looked stupidly lightwieght, Amavi cost us 2-3 goals, Guzan has been dodgy as fuck, whoever wins the right back of the week competition has been poor, there have been no goals from midfield, Sinclair seems to have stopped getting into the opposition penalty area, Gestede has missed chances, and so on, and so on.

We clearly are not pulling together properly as a team, Sherwood was a massive issue, but Richards as captain should be joining that up now, getting them as one and working together.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on November 28, 2015, 01:13:15 AM
I'd be inclined to agree with Bob as well.  I think Richards is dim as a 10 watt bulb.  I imagine his aim was to appease the fans by saying what he thinks we want to hear, which in itself is arrogant and presumptuous, but also overlooks the blindingly obvious fact that people don't much like being slagged off in public by colleagues who are no more competent than themselves.  It's a downright idiotic interview by a man who appears to think he's not contributed to the calamities of this season.  Whether we as fans agree with any of the points he makes is irrelevant.  His words could never do anything but damage to his team-mates.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that sharing such thoughts is not helpful in this situation.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that the best way to get us onside is to stop playing like Frank Spencer, take some responsibility for the mess he's part of and do whatever it takes to galvanise his team and lead it to safety.  If he thinks that's the way to do it he's a massive thicko, and if this was some sort of rallying cry it's as misjudged as some of his positional play.  There are enough pundits getting paid to churn out this sort of specious rubbish, I don't want to hear it from any of our players, regardless of how true it may or may not be.  From what we've seen so far I'd be surprised if Garde didn't take a very dim view of this, and I'd expect to see some punishment.  (I'd then expect to see Richards bleating about how unfair the punishment was, and the entire Sherwood press agreeing with him).     
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 28, 2015, 01:53:46 AM
We are going to find out tomorrow how the interview was received. If he is still captain then Remi won't have seen any harm done by it. The best we can hope for is that has the affect Richards was looking for and that they all show significantly more character than they have shown over the past number of games. There's no place to hide right now.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 28, 2015, 02:18:55 AM
I'd be inclined to agree with Bob as well.  I think Richards is dim as a 10 watt bulb.  I imagine his aim was to appease the fans by saying what he thinks we want to hear, which in itself is arrogant and presumptuous, but also overlooks the blindingly obvious fact that people don't much like being slagged off in public by colleagues who are no more competent than themselves.  It's a downright idiotic interview by a man who appears to think he's not contributed to the calamities of this season.  Whether we as fans agree with any of the points he makes is irrelevant.  His words could never do anything but damage to his team-mates.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that sharing such thoughts is not helpful in this situation.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that the best way to get us onside is to stop playing like Frank Spencer, take some responsibility for the mess he's part of and do whatever it takes to galvanise his team and lead it to safety.  If he thinks that's the way to do it he's a massive thicko, and if this was some sort of rallying cry it's as misjudged as some of his positional play.  There are enough pundits getting paid to churn out this sort of specious rubbish, I don't want to hear it from any of our players, regardless of how true it may or may not be.  From what we've seen so far I'd be surprised if Garde didn't take a very dim view of this, and I'd expect to see some punishment.  (I'd then expect to see Richards bleating about how unfair the punishment was, and the entire Sherwood press agreeing with him).     

Ozzyjim, not having a go, but think something needs to be done and maybe things need to be said. I think Richards is a top player for us, though may have to play right back (that may be the reason he came to us and has he a clause to play CB). If so that it is wrong, but he has been the best CB
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on November 28, 2015, 03:03:37 AM
I'd be inclined to agree with Bob as well.  I think Richards is dim as a 10 watt bulb.  I imagine his aim was to appease the fans by saying what he thinks we want to hear, which in itself is arrogant and presumptuous, but also overlooks the blindingly obvious fact that people don't much like being slagged off in public by colleagues who are no more competent than themselves.  It's a downright idiotic interview by a man who appears to think he's not contributed to the calamities of this season.  Whether we as fans agree with any of the points he makes is irrelevant.  His words could never do anything but damage to his team-mates.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that sharing such thoughts is not helpful in this situation.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that the best way to get us onside is to stop playing like Frank Spencer, take some responsibility for the mess he's part of and do whatever it takes to galvanise his team and lead it to safety.  If he thinks that's the way to do it he's a massive thicko, and if this was some sort of rallying cry it's as misjudged as some of his positional play.  There are enough pundits getting paid to churn out this sort of specious rubbish, I don't want to hear it from any of our players, regardless of how true it may or may not be.  From what we've seen so far I'd be surprised if Garde didn't take a very dim view of this, and I'd expect to see some punishment.  (I'd then expect to see Richards bleating about how unfair the punishment was, and the entire Sherwood press agreeing with him).     

Ozzyjim, not having a go, but think something needs to be done and maybe things need to be said. I think Richards is a top player for us, though may have to play right back (that may be the reason he came to us and has he a clause to play CB). If so that it is wrong, but he has been the best CB

Not Ozzyjim, but anyway, the point is that these things may well need to be said - but not in public. If he thinks his teammates need to shape up, he should say it somehow on the training ground. He should find the best way to get the message across, to motivate his teammates to improve. In other words, to be a captain. Put an arm round some shoulders, kick some arses, do whatever it takes, in person, with each individual. Blaming all the new signings in the press is patently an idiotic approach, it's unimpressive and most likely counterproductive.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 28, 2015, 11:43:28 AM
I'd be inclined to agree with Bob as well.  I think Richards is dim as a 10 watt bulb.  I imagine his aim was to appease the fans by saying what he thinks we want to hear, which in itself is arrogant and presumptuous, but also overlooks the blindingly obvious fact that people don't much like being slagged off in public by colleagues who are no more competent than themselves.  It's a downright idiotic interview by a man who appears to think he's not contributed to the calamities of this season.  Whether we as fans agree with any of the points he makes is irrelevant.  His words could never do anything but damage to his team-mates.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that sharing such thoughts is not helpful in this situation.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that the best way to get us onside is to stop playing like Frank Spencer, take some responsibility for the mess he's part of and do whatever it takes to galvanise his team and lead it to safety.  If he thinks that's the way to do it he's a massive thicko, and if this was some sort of rallying cry it's as misjudged as some of his positional play.  There are enough pundits getting paid to churn out this sort of specious rubbish, I don't want to hear it from any of our players, regardless of how true it may or may not be.  From what we've seen so far I'd be surprised if Garde didn't take a very dim view of this, and I'd expect to see some punishment.  (I'd then expect to see Richards bleating about how unfair the punishment was, and the entire Sherwood press agreeing with him).     

Ozzyjim, not having a go, but think something needs to be done and maybe things need to be said. I think Richards is a top player for us, though may have to play right back (that may be the reason he came to us and has he a clause to play CB). If so that it is wrong, but he has been the best CB

Not Ozzyjim, but anyway, the point is that these things may well need to be said - but not in public. If he thinks his teammates need to shape up, he should say it somehow on the training ground. He should find the best way to get the message across, to motivate his teammates to improve. In other words, to be a captain. Put an arm round some shoulders, kick some arses, do whatever it takes, in person, with each individual. Blaming all the new signings in the press is patently an idiotic approach, it's unimpressive and most likely counterproductive.

Just like Sherwood then. Basically giving it the big "Nothing to do with me guv". Sorry Micah, it's a team game and you're got at least a 1/11th involvement in our current shit sandwich of a situation.

There's something about Richards that I can't put my finger on, but intuitively don't like and this isn't the first time he's come out with something in this vein.

Regardless of whether what he's saying is true or not, that shit is kept in house, especially when you're captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on November 28, 2015, 11:46:19 AM
Richards and Gabby, both are supposed to be our on the field leaders but there's something about them both that makes me feel they're the most likely culprits of any divisions and cliques in the dressing room.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 28, 2015, 12:41:59 PM
Richards and Gabby, both are supposed to be our on the field leaders but there's something about them both that makes me feel they're the most likely culprits of any divisions and cliques in the dressing room.

personally i think gabby would be a terrible influence behind the scenes, mr billy big bollocks
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nelly on November 28, 2015, 01:53:18 PM
I just want Richards to walk the talk. He's been really vocal this season, really pally pally with the media (talking up Delph to Man City for example). Just zip it, he's contributed to this shite Villa find themselves in - as captain he should take more of the blame in my opinion - how dare he be so brazen as to blame the rest of the team?! I'm embarrased for him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: wittonwarrior on November 29, 2015, 12:53:22 AM
To be fair to our man he  gives 110%  a  Saunders type  of player.  What Richards  fails to  recognise though is that collectively we are all in it together. 

I can see why he was made team captain and quite understand people saying he is  not a good fit.

I would make a perfect MP me. ha.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on November 29, 2015, 01:05:56 AM
Today's performance summed him up quite well.

Some driving runs which could have led to goals, a great headed goal and lots of effort and passion. At the same time, having the attention span of a demented springer spaniel that has got the scent of a rabbit when it came to discharging his duties of leading the back line.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 29, 2015, 01:12:50 AM
I'd be inclined to agree with Bob as well.  I think Richards is dim as a 10 watt bulb.  I imagine his aim was to appease the fans by saying what he thinks we want to hear, which in itself is arrogant and presumptuous, but also overlooks the blindingly obvious fact that people don't much like being slagged off in public by colleagues who are no more competent than themselves.  It's a downright idiotic interview by a man who appears to think he's not contributed to the calamities of this season.  Whether we as fans agree with any of the points he makes is irrelevant.  His words could never do anything but damage to his team-mates.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that sharing such thoughts is not helpful in this situation.  If he had half a brain he'd realise that the best way to get us onside is to stop playing like Frank Spencer, take some responsibility for the mess he's part of and do whatever it takes to galvanise his team and lead it to safety.  If he thinks that's the way to do it he's a massive thicko, and if this was some sort of rallying cry it's as misjudged as some of his positional play.  There are enough pundits getting paid to churn out this sort of specious rubbish, I don't want to hear it from any of our players, regardless of how true it may or may not be.  From what we've seen so far I'd be surprised if Garde didn't take a very dim view of this, and I'd expect to see some punishment.  (I'd then expect to see Richards bleating about how unfair the punishment was, and the entire Sherwood press agreeing with him).     

Ozzyjim, not having a go, but think something needs to be done and maybe things need to be said. I think Richards is a top player for us, though may have to play right back (that may be the reason he came to us and has he a clause to play CB). If so that it is wrong, but he has been the best CB

Not Ozzyjim, but anyway, the point is that these things may well need to be said - but not in public. If he thinks his teammates need to shape up, he should say it somehow on the training ground. He should find the best way to get the message across, to motivate his teammates to improve. In other words, to be a captain. Put an arm round some shoulders, kick some arses, do whatever it takes, in person, with each individual. Blaming all the new signings in the press is patently an idiotic approach, it's unimpressive and most likely counterproductive.

Just like Sherwood then. Basically giving it the big "Nothing to do with me guv". Sorry Micah, it's a team game and you're got at least a 1/11th involvement in our current shit sandwich of a situation.

There's something about Richards that I can't put my finger on, but intuitively don't like and this isn't the first time he's come out with something in this vein.

Regardless of whether what he's saying is true or not, that shit is kept in house, especially when you're captain.

Apologies re the name, but what he said is what people think surely. I saw comments that he is a shite centre back and Hutton is a better right back, get a fecking grip. The players are too soft and that is something I would not say Richards is. He is a winner and how many of them have we got? I said to my lad near the end of the first half I would have took Hutton off as he had so much space on the right and brought Okore on and put Richards right back. I heard the interview and have to say I was not impressed, but mostly about the club rather than his comments, which we all agree with.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 29, 2015, 01:14:44 AM
Today's performance summed him up quite well.

Some driving runs which could have led to goals, a great headed goal and lots of effort and passion. At the same time, having the attention span of a demented springer spaniel that has got the scent of a rabbit when it came to discharging his duties of leading the back line.

When you have two full backs like ours, I would be shitting myself constantly. He is trying to lead and yes he has faults, but he is a winner and that is what we need more of
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nelly on November 29, 2015, 01:19:00 AM
Whether what he said was right or not isn't the point for me - it's that he should never be denigrating his team and club publically! Regardless of where they are in the league. Do it in the dressing room if you must. Stupid thing to do in my opinion. I was going to say that Villa should manage this sort of thing better but sadly Villa only manage to disappoint these days.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 29, 2015, 01:35:15 AM
Whether what he said was right or not isn't the point for me - it's that he should never be denigrating his team and club publically! Regardless of where they are in the league. Do it in the dressing room if you must. Stupid thing to do in my opinion. I was going to say that Villa should manage this sort of thing better but sadly Villa only manage to disappoint these days.

Do you not think he has not already done that? I reckon he will have been very vocal in the dressing room. Dion Dublin came out and said the players should admit it has not been good enough. He did that, I agree with him, players have to show balls/ How many of them do at the moment? He certainly does IMHO?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on November 29, 2015, 01:46:21 AM
Today's performance summed him up quite well.

Some driving runs which could have led to goals, a great headed goal and lots of effort and passion. At the same time, having the attention span of a demented springer spaniel that has got the scent of a rabbit when it came to discharging his duties of leading the back line.

When you have two full backs like ours, I would be shitting myself constantly. He is trying to lead and yes he has faults, but he is a winner and that is what we need more of

He s a swash buckler. He has to buckle his swash. He likes to see his cutlass flashing in the floodlights.  He likes to go a wandering.

It is all very inspiring, but somebody needs to be at home taking care of bidness. 

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 29, 2015, 01:52:29 AM
Today's performance summed him up quite well.

Some driving runs which could have led to goals, a great headed goal and lots of effort and passion. At the same time, having the attention span of a demented springer spaniel that has got the scent of a rabbit when it came to discharging his duties of leading the back line.

When you have two full backs like ours, I would be shitting myself constantly. He is trying to lead and yes he has faults, but he is a winner and that is what we need more of

He s a swash buckler. He has to buckle his swash. He likes to see his cutlass flashing in the floodlights.  He likes to go a wandering.

It is all very inspiring, but somebody needs to be at home taking care of bidness. 



I agree he is trying to do too much, but he is our best defender and others need to show similar attitude. I have read the comments he does not want to play for Villa, he has not said that and has not played like that
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on November 29, 2015, 02:00:59 AM
Today's performance summed him up quite well.

Some driving runs which could have led to goals, a great headed goal and lots of effort and passion. At the same time, having the attention span of a demented springer spaniel that has got the scent of a rabbit when it came to discharging his duties of leading the back line.

When you have two full backs like ours, I would be shitting myself constantly. He is trying to lead and yes he has faults, but he is a winner and that is what we need more of

He s a swash buckler. He has to buckle his swash. He likes to see his cutlass flashing in the floodlights.  He likes to go a wandering.

It is all very inspiring, but somebody needs to be at home taking care of bidness. 



I agree he is trying to do too much, but he is our best defender and others need to show similar attitude. I have read the comments he does not want to play for Villa, he has not said that and has not played like that

No, I agree with you about that at least. He gives his all.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 29, 2015, 02:03:40 AM
Today's performance summed him up quite well.

Some driving runs which could have led to goals, a great headed goal and lots of effort and passion. At the same time, having the attention span of a demented springer spaniel that has got the scent of a rabbit when it came to discharging his duties of leading the back line.

When you have two full backs like ours, I would be shitting myself constantly. He is trying to lead and yes he has faults, but he is a winner and that is what we need more of

He s a swash buckler. He has to buckle his swash. He likes to see his cutlass flashing in the floodlights.  He likes to go a wandering.

It is all very inspiring, but somebody needs to be at home taking care of bidness. 



I agree he is trying to do too much, but he is our best defender and others need to show similar attitude. I have read the comments he does not want to play for Villa, he has not said that and has not played like that

No, I agree with you about that at least. He gives his all.

So what do you not agree with? all opinions of course and no offence
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on November 29, 2015, 02:18:43 AM
Today's performance summed him up quite well.

Some driving runs which could have led to goals, a great headed goal and lots of effort and passion. At the same time, having the attention span of a demented springer spaniel that has got the scent of a rabbit when it came to discharging his duties of leading the back line.

When you have two full backs like ours, I would be shitting myself constantly. He is trying to lead and yes he has faults, but he is a winner and that is what we need more of

He s a swash buckler. He has to buckle his swash. He likes to see his cutlass flashing in the floodlights.  He likes to go a wandering.

It is all very inspiring, but somebody needs to be at home taking care of bidness. 



I agree he is trying to do too much, but he is our best defender and others need to show similar attitude. I have read the comments he does not want to play for Villa, he has not said that and has not played like that

No, I agree with you about that at least. He gives his all.

So what do you not agree with? all opinions of course and no offence

I do not doubt his effort or commitment.

I doubt he has the discipline, concentration or brain power to lead a back line like ours.

As I alluded earlier, he reminds me of my brother's spaniel when we go to the Clent Hills. Once he's off, he's off and there is no use trying to find out where he is. You just have to go back to the pub or the car and hope he turns up.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 29, 2015, 02:29:56 AM
I doubt Einstein would have he brain power to cope with those full backs and even Clarj on the third goal.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on November 29, 2015, 09:12:25 AM
I doubt Einstein would have he brain power to cope with those full backs and even Clarj on the third goal.



Watch it again and please explain to me what the hell Richardson is doing too. Terrible defending all round.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on November 29, 2015, 09:14:14 AM
I have some degree of sympathy for Richardson. Clearly not up to the task and there's not much competition take his place. He is rubbish though.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 29, 2015, 12:06:20 PM
I'm beginning to get the impression that Richards thinks Villa are beneath him much in the same way David O'Leary did.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 29, 2015, 12:09:44 PM
I think he's passionate for the club.  He is never a Centre Half though.  The irony is he could be key to providing service to Gestede if he was to switch positions.  Trouble is Clark is equally capable of being terrible.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on November 29, 2015, 12:35:47 PM
I'm beginning to get the impression that Richards thinks Villa are beneath him much in the same way David O'Leary did.

On the basis of showing a bit of passion and saying what all the fans have been saying all season? or because of how much of other peoples work he does on the pitch?

By no means is he the perfect centre back, but he's playing alongside 3 defenders who are levels below him. He has the task of babysitting those players, on top of that he's an attacking threat through the middle of the park. Making bursting runs, going past players and starting attacks, something the midfield should be doing. He's also added scoring goals to his on the pitch 'to do' list.

He's currently our best player on the pitch, he's also the one that looks the most gutted when we concede, he's the one who gives the poor players the hand on the shoulder when they fuck up (Hutton OG) and he's getting himself on the score sheet

Yet he's still one of the players to get stick. Only Villa fans.. i have to laugh or else i'd cry
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on November 29, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
Richards is an awful centre back. I agree with Exeter 77, I too get the impression he thinks he's way too good for us. Play him at right back FFS.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 29, 2015, 03:25:41 PM
Richards' weaknesses in defence are more hidden at RB and more exposed through the middle as a CB. He needs to play RB because he's better than Hutton, and we need to get Okore to replace him. The left side of the defence is fucking horrendous. Throw in a keeper who isn't exactly secure and it is what we have. We need a new LB, new left sided CB and goalkeeper. Let alone a forward as we all acknowledge.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Proposition Joe on November 29, 2015, 03:41:10 PM
What's happened to Crespo and what does Ilori do exactly?

I think most of us are coming round to:
RB: Richards
DCR: Okore

But what about Pulis-style:
DCL: Clark/Crespo
DL: Lescott



Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on November 29, 2015, 07:46:48 PM
I doubt Einstein would have he brain power to cope with those full backs and even Clarj on the third goal.



Watch it again and please explain to me what the hell Richardson is doing too. Terrible defending all round.

Yes, I agree, but Clark has to be aware of what I going on as well
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on November 29, 2015, 08:04:11 PM
What's happened to Crespo and what does Ilori do exactly?

I think most of us are coming round to:
RB: Richards
DCR: Okore

But what about Pulis-style:
DCL: Clark/Crespo
DL: Lescott

what's a DCR/DCL ?

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on November 29, 2015, 08:07:05 PM

Despite being constantly told how well he's playing, i've been less than convinced by Micah thus far, both as a player and captain.

Sometimes, certain players click together, even if they're not individually the best. With that in mind i still think and Okore/Clark pairing may well be our best central defence pairing. Richards can slot in at right back and add something to the side we desperately need, eg pace and skill going forward

But it still leaves the left back spot a worry. I have no answers other than Richardson, Lescott or Clark are not left backs
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on November 29, 2015, 08:23:13 PM
what's a DCR/DCL ?
Defender Central Right/Defender Central Left
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: class-of-82 on November 29, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
D c r you sure that's not the democratic congo republic ??????
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Oscar Arce on November 30, 2015, 05:24:21 PM
I too am not convinced with Richards at all as a centre half. I don't think he's a leader or an organiser, he seems to play off the cuff, he hasn't played centre back for most of his career. Look at the number of times he goes to ground, he's out of the game in virtually every goal we concede.
It would be brave to leave him out, but it's got to the stage where Garde needs to try anything, he cannot replace Hutton who is our best player at the moment, so I would like to see Okore back in on the right side paired with a natural leftie Lescott or Clark on the other side, if he's going to persist with a four.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: itbrvilla on December 29, 2015, 02:15:14 PM
Fuck you Micah you fucking baby and pathetic excuse of a footballer and captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mellin on December 29, 2015, 02:26:36 PM
I like him. He cares. He's quite blatantly not a centre back though and needs to be told. If he disagrees then he'll have to leave because the defence is an absolute mess.

Richards
Okore
Lescott
Cissokho

That's as good as it's going to get with our current squad. Maybe chuck Senderos in.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 29, 2015, 03:17:23 PM
Fuck you Micah you fucking baby and pathetic excuse of a footballer and captain.

Having deliberately avoided everything to do with yesterday, this one's caught my interest. Was there anything specific, or is he just proving himself to be all about me, myself and I?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 29, 2015, 03:27:20 PM



With that in mind i still think and Okore/Clark pairing may well be our best central defence pairing.


Except that it has got Clark in it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 29, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
In defence of Clark, anybody that has to play alongside Richards is going to struggle. It's more than time Richards gave up the dream of ever being a centre back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 29, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
Fuck you Micah you fucking baby and pathetic excuse of a footballer and captain.

Having deliberately avoided everything to do with yesterday, this one's caught my interest. Was there anything specific, or is he just proving himself to be all about me, myself and I?

I assume it's to do with his Twitter strop at Ian Wright.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Smirker on December 29, 2015, 04:02:55 PM
Fuck you Micah you fucking baby and pathetic excuse of a footballer and captain.

Having deliberately avoided everything to do with yesterday, this one's caught my interest. Was there anything specific, or is he just proving himself to be all about me, myself and I?

Ian Wright criticised his positioning on MOTD for the first goal. Nothing abusive or over the top he was just telling the truth, he was out of position for the goal and things like that are the reason we are getting relegated.

Micah loses it on Twitter and says it's not on. Looks a bit childish really if he can't take a pundit pointing out his tactical errors on a football show where they are analysing the match.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 29, 2015, 04:11:45 PM
Micah, when the side you are captain of hasn't won a league game since the opening day, the best thing to do is shut the fuck up and take it on the chin. The best way of getting back at any critic is to show it on the pitch by being the leader that you are being paid and expected to be. Instead of worrying about yourself based on criticism received on this performance you should be more concerned at the reputation you will have if the team you are captain of becomes the worst team in the history of the PL.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on December 29, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
awful captain and centre half.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 29, 2015, 04:38:33 PM
He doesn't even organise himself on the pitch, never mind the rest of the defence - which I would have thought was also his "job".
He wins balls in the air pretty well and has the occasional storming run up the pitch but I've been pretty surprised at how crap he is at defending generally.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villalion on December 29, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Micah, when the side you are captain of hasn't won a league game since the opening day, the best thing to do is shut the fuck up and take it on the chin. The best way of getting back at any critic is to show it on the pitch by being the leader that you are being paid and expected to be. Instead of worrying about yourself based on criticism received on this performance you should be more concerned at the reputation you will have if the team you are captain of becomes the worst team in the history of the PL.

Nail on the head for me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on December 29, 2015, 05:07:51 PM
Fuck you Micah you fucking baby and pathetic excuse of a footballer and captain.

His problem is he thinks he is a "top player" not the captain of the worst team in the division.

Even when he used to take his career seriously the likes of Capello and Mancini saw through his bullsh*t

Sherwood's decision to give him free reign at centre half and make him captain was farcical.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on December 29, 2015, 06:39:53 PM
Pull your head out of your arse Micah.  We're bottom of the table without a win since August.  You shouldn't be suprised if people are pointing the finger at you.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on December 29, 2015, 07:46:31 PM
Fuck you Micah you fucking baby and pathetic excuse of a footballer and captain.

Having deliberately avoided everything to do with yesterday, this one's caught my interest. Was there anything specific, or is he just proving himself to be all about me, myself and I?

Ian Wright criticised his positioning on MOTD for the first goal. Nothing abusive or over the top he was just telling the truth, he was out of position for the goal and things like that are the reason we are getting relegated.

Micah loses it on Twitter and says it's not on. Looks a bit childish really if he can't take a pundit pointing out his tactical errors on a football show where they are analysing the match.

Wright is thick as pigshit, a terrible pundit. However like a broken watch it can be right twice a day and the one thing Wright could do was play football as a striker and therefore has a passing knowledge on defensive deficiencies. Micah is one big fucking deficiency.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 29, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
The thing I really struggled with yesterday about that first goal is that he actually looked back to see where Howson was.  So having done that why the hell did he just let him ghost in behind for the goal with no challenge.  Who exactly was he expecting to pick him up notwithstanding there was a slight deflection that took it away from him slightly.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on December 29, 2015, 08:03:26 PM
So how about Micah as our Player of the Season?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 29, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
He has the attributes to be a good defender, he lets himself down in his positional play, his short fuse and the fact that he is injury prone.

Not the type of captain, top defender we were looking for.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on December 29, 2015, 10:22:10 PM
So how about Micah as our Player of the Season?

How about Steven Ireland as our player of the season? Those were the days my friends. 

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt C on December 29, 2015, 10:26:33 PM
Whoever likened him to a Labrador on the match thread in terms of his positional sense called it about right.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on December 29, 2015, 10:42:38 PM
He also sent a baby comment to Collymore about them getting stick when they play poorly from him but no credit when they give their all and get a draw against West Ham at home.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 29, 2015, 11:38:23 PM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on December 29, 2015, 11:41:51 PM
He's a shit defender, and an even worse captain.  Quite frankly, he can fuck right off.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: VinnieChase84 on December 29, 2015, 11:51:46 PM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
If he cared so much he would play fucking RB. Never going to be a centre half regardless of what he/his contract dictates
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 29, 2015, 11:53:04 PM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
If he cared so much he would play fucking RB. Never going to be a centre half regardless of what he/his contract dictates

Is there any evidence,  or is this one of those internet myths that becomes accepted as fact?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 30, 2015, 12:16:51 AM
Was going to say.  It has to be amongst the biggest load of nonsense to suggest we can't move a player into a different position in the defence due to contractual limitations.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on December 30, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
He's a shit defender, and an even worse captain.  Quite frankly, he can fuck right off.

As much as Lescott has lost his legs and Okore is prone to errors, their partnership was streets better than Richards and anyone so far.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 30, 2015, 09:26:21 AM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
If he cared so much he would play fucking RB. Never going to be a centre half regardless of what he/his contract dictates

Is there any evidence,  or is this one of those internet myths that becomes accepted as fact?

I'm not saying it's definitely true, but if it isn't, then it's an unfortunate coincidence for him that he got injured just as Okore was fit to come back in and then spent 3-4 weeks getting over a minor knock but was fit to come back in as soon as Okore had to miss a game.

The squad / line up for Sunderland will be illuminating if Okore was just rested to allow swelling on his knee to subside.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: andyh on December 30, 2015, 09:36:43 AM
Was going to say.  It has to be amongst the biggest load of nonsense to suggest we can't move a player into a different position in the defence due to contractual limitations.
Is is nonsense, really?
In the days when players seem to be able to demand anything, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that a player with delusions of grandeur can say 'I'll only sign for your club if you pay me xxx K per week and play me in my favoured position'.
Of course, we don't know it's the case, but I don't think it's nonsense to suggest it.

We are the club that gave contracts to players like Tonev and Dawkins remember!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 30, 2015, 09:50:23 AM
Well anyway, ignoring that I would play him right back because it's become evident he's really no better than the rest of the cack we've had playing at centre back over the last 5 years. I'm sure he would be an improvement on Hutton, and allow Okore and Lescott to firm up their vaguely promising partnership.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Boz on December 30, 2015, 10:43:58 AM
He's a shit defender, and an even worse captain.  Quite frankly, he can fuck right off.

Absolutely. Why are Villa a 20 minute team, is that because they don't train enough, certainly the defenders don't seem to know the fundamentals of defending and the strikers don't take the chances when they come along.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on December 30, 2015, 10:53:11 AM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
If he cared so much he would play fucking RB. Never going to be a centre half regardless of what he/his contract dictates

Is there any evidence,  or is this one of those internet myths that becomes accepted as fact?

Didn't we have this a while back when people thought Cleverley had in his contract that he starts every game?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villasjf on December 30, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
Doesn't stay on his feet enough, always falling over, poor defender and poor captain. He will jump ship as soon as he can.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave shelley on December 30, 2015, 12:38:02 PM
As a professional footballer, if the manager says you're playing right back then you play right back, and you give it your all, even if you're a centre forward.  To me, it's simple, although an expensive asset; he plays right back if told or he fucks off.  If he cares as much as he says he does he plays.  His choice. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Karl Bridges on December 30, 2015, 12:48:53 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithe on December 30, 2015, 12:52:28 PM
I'd suggest that if he wants to help the team then he doesn't play at all.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dante Lavelli on December 30, 2015, 12:56:34 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.

I hope that is true.  His swashbuckling style is a liability when playing centre back but could become a positive asset at RB.  It also suggests that his attitude is not as bad as we have assumed (myself included).
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: joe_c on December 30, 2015, 12:57:12 PM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
If he cared so much he would play fucking RB. Never going to be a centre half regardless of what he/his contract dictates

Is there any evidence,  or is this one of those internet myths that becomes accepted as fact?

None whatsoever. Someone suggested it, everyone believed it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dante Lavelli on December 30, 2015, 12:59:27 PM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
If he cared so much he would play fucking RB. Never going to be a centre half regardless of what he/his contract dictates

Is there any evidence,  or is this one of those internet myths that becomes accepted as fact?

None whatsoever. Someone suggested it, everyone believed it.

Doesn't it stem from newspaper reports after signing that sunderland offered more in wages yet he chose to join us.  Putting two and two together it was assumed that we had offered additional incentives.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on December 30, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
I'm sure a legal sort would put me right, but I'm not sure that a clause like that would even be enforceable.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 30, 2015, 01:12:03 PM
It's breaking his heart don't you know.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/484166/Micah-Richards-Aston-Villa-relegation-fight-breaking-heart
If he cared so much he would play fucking RB. Never going to be a centre half regardless of what he/his contract dictates

Is there any evidence,  or is this one of those internet myths that becomes accepted as fact?

None whatsoever. Someone suggested it, everyone believed it.

I wouldn't say everyone believed it, but it became one of those things that grew legs. Plus why would a player who has played both positions only commit to a club if he plays a specific position? Wouldn't that limit his chances of playing? And who would have even come up with that suggestion? It seemed a bit ludicrous from the start, but then ludicrous and Internet myths aren't exactly strange bedfellows.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: David_Nab on December 30, 2015, 01:13:08 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.

Then I hope sense is seen and he is played there , there is reason he got picked to play for England there.He has pace and strength and frankly could he be any worse at crossing then Hutton.

At this point our most reliable defence would be

Richards - Okore - Lescott - Cissoko

All of them are units so should help with cross's into box if they can stay in position.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Neil Hawkes on December 30, 2015, 01:28:28 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.

Then I hope sense is seen and he is played there , there is reason he got picked to play for England there.He has pace and strength and frankly could he be any worse at crossing then Hutton.

At this point our most reliable defence would be

Richards - Okore - Lescott - Cissoko

All of them are units so should help with cross's into box if they can stay in position.
I would like to see that line up
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on December 30, 2015, 03:30:32 PM
If he is then Bacuna lescott Okore Richards has to be the back 4 on Saturday.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 30, 2015, 03:50:33 PM
Play him RB, he'd do something with the space Hutton gets especially as I imagine Cissokho will be instructed not to cross the halfway line when he gets into the team.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Pat McMahon on December 30, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
Has there ever been anything in Richards' career to suggest he can play centre half at a high level?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 30, 2015, 05:14:10 PM
Has there ever been anything in Richards' career to suggest he can play centre half at a high level?

Diddly squat as far as I can remember:

Break through for Man City as right back
Majority of appearances for Man City as right back.
All his England caps as right back.

Him being viewed as a right back was one of the reasons it went sour in Fiorentina when they switched to a back 3 which you'd think was an easier transition from right back than playing centre back in a flat four.

I can understand why he hasn't appeared at right back to date if he's not been fit at the same time as Okore, a pairing lacking in pace to the degree of Clark and Lescott anyone?

The unfortunate synchronisation of his injury with Okore's won't be helping the rumour mill.

Start off withhis involvement or otherwise in Delph's move getting some people's backs up before we'd even started pre season.
Add his dubious personal performances in what, according to urban legend, is his preferred position pissing people off even further and you've got someone who we've never really taken too, who's never been viewed as one of us.
Top of with his involvement in a team that is so shite it's breaking records Lambert could only dream about giving rise to feelings of impotent fury and you've got the sort of situation where every minute detail is raked over and analysed to find yet another contributory explanation for our apparent changes to both motto and "mission statement" which now read as "Unprepared" and "Proud History, Shite Future"
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on December 30, 2015, 05:30:49 PM
I agree with all of that VID and add the gratuitous stupidity of a ban for fighting in the tunnel and a five minute shoveathon in injury time at Norwich. We have had some stupid players over the years but he is well up there for the coveted title of El Stupido.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nastylee on December 30, 2015, 06:04:32 PM
I'd like to think that with him and Okore both fit  then the possibility of him shifting to RB is at least being considered. I can see why his has played right CB with the Lescott or Clark but now Okore can blance the middle it has to be time to have him down the right. As far as PR is concerned - someone needs to tell him to stop talking and using social media.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 30, 2015, 06:32:39 PM
I'd like to think that with him and Okore both fit  then the possibility of him shifting to RB is at least being considered. I can see why his has played right CB with the Lescott or Clark but now Okore can blance the middle it has to be time to have him down the right. As far as PR is concerned - someone needs to tell him to stop talking and using social media.

I didn't realise you'd started using Proportional Representation instead of First Past The Post, or in our case, Loads Inbetween The Posts.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 30, 2015, 06:36:13 PM
I agree with all of that VID and add the gratuitous stupidity of a ban for fighting in the tunnel and a five minute shoveathon in injury time at Norwich. We have had some stupid players over the years but he is well up there for the coveted title of El Stupido.

I'd forgotten about the tunnel fight. Still that happened before the diarrhoea sauce was added to the shit sandwich that is this season and that kind of bollocks went down well in some quarters "'cause at least 'ez showin' sum pazzion."
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on December 30, 2015, 09:43:29 PM
When I look at him on the pitch, he seems to have the ways of someone with a massive chip on his shoulder.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 30, 2015, 09:48:43 PM
Would any one be surprised if he is the first rat off the sinking ship?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: David_Nab on December 30, 2015, 09:49:34 PM
When I look at him on the pitch, he seems to have the ways of someone with a massive chip on his shoulder.

I certainly get the sense he is better than the rest of the team and its them at fault for our issues not him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: AV82EC on December 30, 2015, 09:54:58 PM
Seems a bit sensitive to criticism as well. Easy to hide behind everyone else at Cit£h with some very big personalities centre stage. As captain and on of our more experienced PL players he's front and centre now and is showing himself to be nowhere near captain/leader material.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villan from luton on December 30, 2015, 10:09:50 PM
I would be tempted to play him in a central defensive midfield role on Saturday if Okore is fit. Can Cissokho play on Saturday, is he fit even?

As for Richards at Villa, think the Delph incident put some fans on a downer from the off and he has never recovered from that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on December 30, 2015, 10:15:58 PM
I want Richards to STFU and show us. The criticism is totally warranted. Great to have passion but be better at your job. That said, he has some utter tripe next to him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ian. on December 30, 2015, 11:37:16 PM
Play him at rightback and sign a decent centre half to play with Okore.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: godzvilla on December 31, 2015, 09:42:07 AM
I would be tempted to play him in a central defensive midfield role on Saturday if Okore is fit. Can Cissokho play on Saturday, is he fit even?

As for Richards at Villa, think the Delph incident put some fans on a downer from the off and he has never recovered from that.

According to the OS...." Aly Cissokho has returned to the club following a loan spell at Porto.

Cissokho was originally due to spend the season with the Primeira Liga club.

But the defender has been recalled early.

The 28-year-old will be eligible to play from January onwards, following the Sunderland game.
" .

Not sure why he can't play on the 2nd of January , given that the transfer deadline opens on the 1st (?). Whatever...one more game with the choice of a variety of dodgy Left Back's to choose from ........Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on December 31, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
I would be tempted to play him in a central defensive midfield role on Saturday if Okore is fit. Can Cissokho play on Saturday, is he fit even?

As for Richards at Villa, think the Delph incident put some fans on a downer from the off and he has never recovered from that.

i would be tempted not to play him at all, who the fuck does he think he is?

not a centre half for starters
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 31, 2015, 11:23:17 PM
Why do some of us think that we can sort our defensive woes by moving one of our not-so-good centre-halves into midfield? Are we unique in thinking like so? Clark before has often been suggested, now Richards. I'm struggling to think of examples when this has worked either here or anywhere else. The other way round, midfielder into defence, there's been a few, Southgate being one. I just don't see how his poor positioning and ball-watching would be negated by playing further up the pitch.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave shelley on December 31, 2015, 11:30:35 PM
Called clutching at straws I think LFS.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on December 31, 2015, 11:31:16 PM
Seems a bit sensitive to criticism as well. Easy to hide behind everyone else at Cit£h with some very big personalities centre stage. As captain and on of our more experienced PL players he's front and centre now and is showing himself to be nowhere near captain/leader material.

Perhaps he should spend a little bit less time on twitter and a bit more time working with his teammates on sorting the back line out.

As Big Ron would say.  Dont tell me, show me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: four fornicholl on December 31, 2015, 11:34:59 PM
Seems a bit sensitive to criticism as well. Easy to hide behind everyone else at Cit£h with some very big personalities centre stage. As captain and on of our more experienced PL players he's front and centre now and is showing himself to be nowhere near captain/leader material.

Perhaps he should spend a little bit less time on twitter and a bit more time working with his teammates on sorting the back line out.

As Big Ron would say.  Dont tell me, show me.
FKN TWITTER
self affirmating ******
hate the lot of em
CHRIS NICHOLL is coming to get you
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 31, 2015, 11:39:52 PM
I would be tempted to play him in a central defensive midfield role on Saturday if Okore is fit. Can Cissokho play on Saturday, is he fit even?

As for Richards at Villa, think the Delph incident put some fans on a downer from the off and he has never recovered from that.

According to the OS...." Aly Cissokho has returned to the club following a loan spell at Porto.

Cissokho was originally due to spend the season with the Primeira Liga club.

But the defender has been recalled early.

The 28-year-old will be eligible to play from January onwards, following the Sunderland game.
" .

Not sure why he can't play on the 2nd of January , given that the transfer deadline opens on the 1st (?). Whatever...one more game with the choice of a variety of dodgy Left Back's to choose from ........Godzvilla!

Because the transfer window doesn't open until midnight Jan 2nd.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Drummond on December 31, 2015, 11:58:13 PM
For a number if years now we've been calling for someone to be vocal, to show they care and want to win. Our captain does it and everyone wants him to shut up.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 01, 2016, 12:02:00 AM
That's fine but he does need to do his day job properly.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 01, 2016, 12:30:08 AM
That's fine but he does need to do his day job properly.
Exactly.
He's got everything in his arsenal to be a very good central defender, IF he can sort his concentration and awareness out and learn his position.
I don't necessarily think playing Right Back will negate him dropping bollocks by anymeans, but perhaps merely give him license to be effective going forward, and also drop bollocks in marginally less dangerous positions at the back.

No matter if he playings central or on the right he's got to improve his awareness and positioning regardless. If he could do that as a fullback he'd be able to do it as a CH I'd imagine. He was only initially moved to fullback in his younger years because of his inexperience and naivety IIRC. I think clearly he wants to be a CH. I just wish he'd learn his trade quicker, or we had someone with experience and legs next to him, who can organise. Lescott has never been an organiser for me. He had Kompany next to him at City, or I think Jagielka at Everton perhaps marshalled things with him too. And Lescott's legs have packed up now anyhow. I'd love to have a Martin Laursen here. He'd get the best out of someone like Richards I think.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 01, 2016, 12:58:11 AM
Why do some of us think that we can sort our defensive woes by moving one of our not-so-good centre-halves into midfield? Are we unique in thinking like so? Clark before has often been suggested, now Richards. I'm struggling to think of examples when this has worked either here or anywhere else. The other way round, midfielder into defence, there's been a few, Southgate being one. I just don't see how his poor positioning and ball-watching would be negated by playing further up the pitch.

McGrath played that role for RoI for a few years. But now you're talking about someone who Richards is barely fit to have his name on the back of a replica shirt.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 01, 2016, 01:01:55 AM
Moving Micah around all over the shop, or effectively moving him into midfield to keep him out of trouble is a bad idea. We need to decide on his long term position. If that is still CH, he's got to really be worked on. That means giving him a decent partner and perhaps hiring a decent defensive coach because clearly whatever we're doing in training is not making a blind bit of difference as our organisation is non-existent. Four headless chickens and a deer caught in headlights between the sticks.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: tomd2103 on January 01, 2016, 01:11:07 AM
Moving Micah around all over the shop, or effectively moving him into midfield to keep him out of trouble is a bad idea. We need to decide on his long term position. If that is still CH, he's got to really be worked on. That means giving him a decent partner and perhaps hiring a decent defensive coach because clearly whatever we're doing in training is not making a blind bit of difference as our organisation is non-existent. Four headless chickens and a deer caught in headlights between the sticks.

Agree and it doesn't help if we're chopping and changing the back four every game.  Richards isn't the only one we need to make a decision on because if Lescott and Okore are not fit enough to play two games in a week then they won't be much use in the Championship and we should be looking at other options. 

I do however think a back four of Richards, Okore, Lescott and Cissokho could be something to work with, especially if they had a more solid keeper behind them and defensive midfielder in front of them. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 01, 2016, 01:25:13 AM
He will be gone this window.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 01, 2016, 02:07:17 AM
We need a tried, tested AND trusted back four. I like Micah's attitude, we need that across back four, but more importantly players playing in their best positions not their preferred positions. UTV
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Drummond on January 01, 2016, 12:18:17 PM
I'd find it hard to concentrate being surrounded with ineptitude.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on January 01, 2016, 01:09:39 PM
For a number if years now we've been calling for someone to be vocal, to show they care and want to win. Our captain does it and everyone wants him to shut up.

All of that's fine, but a captain also needs to be able to help organise the team on the pitch, which Richards is clearly very bad at, and lead by example, when all he seems to do is get involved in nonsensical shoving matches.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 01, 2016, 02:51:45 PM
I haven't really seen Micah be vocal where it counts though, on the pitch.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: claretandbeer on January 01, 2016, 05:19:26 PM
Why do some of us think that we can sort our defensive woes by moving one of our not-so-good centre-halves into midfield? Are we unique in thinking like so? Clark before has often been suggested, now Richards. I'm struggling to think of examples when this has worked either here or anywhere else. The other way round, midfielder into defence, there's been a few, Southgate being one. I just don't see how his poor positioning and ball-watching would be negated by playing further up the pitch.
Poor positioning and ball watching are serious weaknesses for a centre back.I can't think of a centre back where a coach has remedied those weaknesses.He is,however,a good tackler ,competent passer and outstanding athleticism means that he can go past players and hunt the ball down quickly.These qualities make him more suited to a defensive midfield role.Jack Charlton played Lawrenson and then McGrath in midfield in a successful Ireland team.SGT did the same initially with McGrath.Wrong but they performed.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 01, 2016, 05:22:46 PM
I'd find it hard to concentrate being surrounded with ineptitude.
I'd find it improper to be a bit of a gobshite when I was part of that ineptitude.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 01, 2016, 05:28:38 PM
The reason his career stalled was because he was impetuous, when playing for Citeh he could have a good game then foul someone needlessly and give away free kicks.
He possibly could play centre half if he had someone very good and experienced along side him talking and covering. As the dominant player in that position he is obviously not up to it yet.
It has been an experiment that has gone badly wrong, alongside keeping Guzan in goal.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 01, 2016, 05:28:51 PM
Moving Micah around all over the shop, or effectively moving him into midfield to keep him out of trouble is a bad idea. We need to decide on his long term position. If that is still CH, he's got to really be worked on. That means giving him a decent partner and perhaps hiring a decent defensive coach because clearly whatever we're doing in training is not making a blind bit of difference as our organisation is non-existent. Four headless chickens and a deer caught in headlights between the sticks.

At no point in his carrier has anyone other than Micah Richards viewed him as anything other than a fullback, except in an emergency solution.

That we couldn't even take a risk on Senderos' fitness whilst Okore was recovering from his knee op and play Richards where is most suited to is possibly the 2nd most damaging decision of Sherwood's short reign.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 01, 2016, 08:22:07 PM
Ian Wright iss spot on when he responds to Micah's tweeting..."bottom of the league and you worry about me mentioning you are the captain?  " and a "no wonder why" emoticon
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on January 01, 2016, 09:16:21 PM
That's fine but he does need to do his day job properly.
Exactly.
He's got everything in his arsenal to be a very good central defender, IF he can sort his concentration and awareness out and learn his position.
I don't necessarily think playing Right Back will negate him dropping bollocks by anymeans, but perhaps merely give him license to be effective going forward, and also drop bollocks in marginally less dangerous positions at the back.

No matter if he playings central or on the right he's got to improve his awareness and positioning regardless. If he could do that as a fullback he'd be able to do it as a CH I'd imagine. He was only initially moved to fullback in his younger years because of his inexperience and naivety IIRC. I think clearly he wants to be a CH. I just wish he'd learn his trade quicker, or we had someone with experience and legs next to him, who can organise. Lescott has never been an organiser for me. He had Kompany next to him at City, or I think Jagielka at Everton perhaps marshalled things with him too. And Lescott's legs have packed up now anyhow. I'd love to have a Martin Laursen here. He'd get the best out of someone like Richards I think.

Richards has no defensive instincts and is a complete liability when the ball is behind him. It was a dreadful decision to bring him in as captain and play him centre half. He hasn't played the position regularly in years and when he did, next to Richard Dunne at City, he was useless.

As one of the highest earners at the club, we shouldn't be expected to bring in a player to teach him how to play the position.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 01, 2016, 09:58:14 PM
Ian Wright's right. IMO.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: David_Nab on January 01, 2016, 10:20:58 PM
Ian Wright iss spot on when he responds to Micah's tweeting..."bottom of the league and you worry about me mentioning you are the captain?  " and a "no wonder why" emoticon

He was also right in telling him he had an issue with the comments he could contact Wright in person not make a public song and dance about it on twitter.

Hopefully he is moved to RB for tomorrows game

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 02, 2016, 12:21:06 AM
I'd find it hard to concentrate being surrounded with ineptitude.
I'd find it improper to be a bit of a gobshite when I was part of that ineptitude.
Well put Sir ...a retort of Wilde magnitude!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 02, 2016, 12:28:18 AM
That's fine but he does need to do his day job properly.
Exactly.
He's got everything in his arsenal to be a very good central defender, IF he can sort his concentration and awareness out and learn his position.
I don't necessarily think playing Right Back will negate him dropping bollocks by anymeans, but perhaps merely give him license to be effective going forward, and also drop bollocks in marginally less dangerous positions at the back.

No matter if he playings central or on the right he's got to improve his awareness and positioning regardless. If he could do that as a fullback he'd be able to do it as a CH I'd imagine. He was only initially moved to fullback in his younger years because of his inexperience and naivety IIRC. I think clearly he wants to be a CH. I just wish he'd learn his trade quicker, or we had someone with experience and legs next to him, who can organise. Lescott has never been an organiser for me. He had Kompany next to him at City, or I think Jagielka at Everton perhaps marshalled things with him too. And Lescott's legs have packed up now anyhow. I'd love to have a Martin Laursen here. He'd get the best out of someone like Richards I think.

Richards has no defensive instincts and is a complete liability when the ball is behind him. It was a dreadful decision to bring him in as captain and play him centre half. He hasn't played the position regularly in years and when he did, next to Richard Dunne at City, he was useless.

As one of the highest earners at the club, we shouldn't be expected to bring in a player to teach him how to play the position.
That's true. But to be honest I think he'd be a liability at Right back too. He just has no awareness that a defender should. Even at his best at City he had proper CH's and midfielders who could cover him when he bombed forward.
We don't defend as a team and individually are bloody atrocious. No one will cover his mistakes.

Which is why he needs to be properly coached. Lets face it, he's youngish, and he's effectively done fuck all for about 2-3 years. So he's not really been learning the trade during key years. He's still making the errors players make at 22-23.

I like his passion on the pitch but it's so mis-managed, not just by our managers and coaches but by Richards himself. He's got it all in his locker. Pace, strength and he's good in the air, and comfortable on the deck, but until he engages his brain and someone teaches him his trade properly, he's going to be a liability every half the time which will negate the other half of the time where he looks like the missing piece.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 02, 2016, 05:10:05 PM
Micah, to paraphrase the Godfather of Soul, Mister James Brown, please, please, please FUCK OFF!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 02, 2016, 05:11:06 PM
Wimp and shit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on January 02, 2016, 05:13:43 PM
Micah, to paraphrase the Godfather of Soul, Mister James Brown, please, please, please FUCK OFF!

He's been found to be Talking Loud and Saying Nothing, and his positional sense is Superbad.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: myf on January 02, 2016, 05:18:01 PM
Never liked the guy. Epitomises all that is wrong with avfc
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: itbrvilla on January 02, 2016, 05:23:14 PM
He's a ****** and can join the others on my list of current Villa related ******.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 02, 2016, 05:25:05 PM
With Hutton probably out for a while the perfect chance to stick him at RB and see if it improves anything. Bet it's Bacuna that plays there though.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: curiousorange on January 02, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Hate is a strong word, but I certainly hate Micah Richards. On his own he's crap, but even as an emblem of the current state of this club, he's everything I despise about it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on January 02, 2016, 05:34:26 PM
With Hutton probably out for a while the perfect chance to stick him at RB and see if it improves anything. Bet it's Bacuna that plays there though.

Hutton out? Are you mistaking him for Adama?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 02, 2016, 05:37:02 PM
With Hutton probably out for a while the perfect chance to stick him at RB and see if it improves anything. Bet it's Bacuna that plays there though.

Hutton out? Are you mistaking him for Adama?

Nope. Hutton went off with hamstring problems.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on January 02, 2016, 05:38:38 PM
Ah good news!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 02, 2016, 05:42:41 PM
Very good news indeed.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 02, 2016, 05:49:06 PM
Very good news indeed.

Yeah, losing one of the few players that's shown week in, week out, 100% commitment will make it much easier for the lazy, headless chickens like Richards and Bacuna to blend in. If every player showed Hutton's dedication we may have at least 2 more points, maybe even 3.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 02, 2016, 05:53:22 PM
Very good news indeed.

Yeah, losing one of the few players that's shown week in, week out, 100% commitment will make it much easier for the lazy, headless chickens like Richards and Bacuna to blend in. If every player showed Hutton's dedication we may have at least 2 more points, maybe even 3.

Exactly right. Hutton has, and always was limited in terms of ability. But FFS, he is one of the FEW players who has given a shit about this club all season.

We've got plenty of spineless, gutless chancers who need booting out of VP before Alan Hutton.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on January 02, 2016, 05:54:26 PM
Very good news indeed.

Yeah, losing one of the few players that's shown week in, week out, 100% commitment will make it much easier for the lazy, headless chickens like Richards and Bacuna to blend in. If every player showed Hutton's dedication we may have at least 2 more points, maybe even 3.

Constantly passing the ball to a dodgy, headless-chicken defender in attacking positions has been one of our poorest tactics.

I don't question his commitment, he's just not very good.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 02, 2016, 05:57:02 PM
Hutton is beyond garbage and shouldn't be applying his shit trade anywhere near us.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 02, 2016, 05:59:06 PM
As for Richards he can do one too. Horrendous player, leader my arse! All I seem to see him doing is make some odd chewing movement with his mouth and do a lot of worried pointing.

Didn't want him when he was reportedly signing, definitely don't want him in the team now.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 02, 2016, 06:00:10 PM
Hutton is beyond garbage and shouldn't be applying his shit trade anywhere us.

He should have gone in the summer, stock was high after getting back in to the team and we'd have got a couple of quid for him. He's an atrocious defender.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 02, 2016, 06:03:38 PM
Hutton is beyond garbage and shouldn't be applying his shit trade anywhere us.

He should have gone in the summer, stock was high after getting back in to the team and we'd have got a couple of quid for him. He's an atrocious defender.

Compared to that clown, Richards, he's Franco Baresi.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: curiousorange on January 02, 2016, 06:09:07 PM
If anybody does happen across Micah Richards on their travels, would you mind awfully screaming "you're a right back" in his face please?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ktvillan on January 02, 2016, 06:28:42 PM
Very good news indeed.

Yeah, losing one of the few players that's shown week in, week out, 100% commitment will make it much easier for the lazy, headless chickens like Richards and Bacuna to blend in. If every player showed Hutton's dedication we may have at least 2 more points, maybe even 3.

Exactly right. Hutton has, and always was limited in terms of ability. But FFS, he is one of the FEW players who has given a shit about this club all season.

We've got plenty of spineless, gutless chancers who need booting out of VP before Alan Hutton.

I must have been watching a different Hutton because the one I've seen shows plenty of willing to get forward and spoon a pathetic attempt at a cross into the keeper's hands but very little to get back into position or close down the opposition when they have the ball.  A gentle jog back, or casually ball watching as his winger drifts in behind him to score.  If that's him being 100% committed then the mind boggles at how bad he could be if he started slacking.  Or perhaps you're confusing his obvious enthusiasm for a ruck, inviting red and yellow cards, for commitment?  I think he's been bloody awful this season. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave shelley on January 02, 2016, 06:52:42 PM
Alan Hutton will leave Villa Park in the fullness of time.  When he goes, he goes with my respect for his professionalism, attitude and effort.  That he doesn't measure up to the standard of footballer required at this level and at this club is not his fault.  I can't play the piano but it doesn't stop me trying.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 02, 2016, 06:55:54 PM
Alan Hutton will leave Villa Park in the fullness of time.  When he goes, he goes with my respect for his professionalism, attitude and effort.  That he doesn't measure up to the standard of footballer required at this level and at this club is not his fault.  I can't play the piano but it doesn't stop me trying.

Spot on. I would prefer someone else there, but Hutton is one of the few in the side I have any time for.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: claret and blue blood on January 02, 2016, 07:02:47 PM
Hutton is a terrible player and should be nowhere near the team, likewise Richards who has proved to be a reckless liability , the appearance of Okore alongside Lescott gave a frustratingly brief glimpse of a decent pairing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nelly on January 02, 2016, 07:21:47 PM
If Hutton was always mouthing off, tweeting stupidity or recommending our players to leave he'd get more stick from me. As it is he's a trier but just not the best. I wish more of our players tried.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 02, 2016, 07:25:10 PM
Well we are going to find out soon enough about Richards and playing RB. Looks like Hutton has an injury and Okore should be fit to start next game. Richards should start at RB.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 02, 2016, 07:28:19 PM
I reckon there'll be more chance of seeing Bacuna back there.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 02, 2016, 07:32:47 PM
Moving Micah around all over the shop, or effectively moving him into midfield to keep him out of trouble is a bad idea. We need to decide on his long term position. If that is still CH, he's got to really be worked on. That means giving him a decent partner and perhaps hiring a decent defensive coach because clearly whatever we're doing in training is not making a blind bit of difference as our organisation is non-existent. Four headless chickens and a deer caught in headlights between the sticks.

I'd rather move him out of the exit door to be honest.  Much like a number of the players stealing a living of the club.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 02, 2016, 07:43:24 PM
Richards is no leader if he's willing to see Hutton playing right back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 02, 2016, 07:46:07 PM
Sherwood junior.  Throws everyone else under a bus to save his sorry arse.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on January 02, 2016, 07:49:30 PM
Richards is no leader if he's willing to see Hutton playing right back.

I don't think it's really his decision whether to pick Hutton or not.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 02, 2016, 09:09:08 PM
Alan Hutton will leave Villa Park in the fullness of time.  When he goes, he goes with my respect for his professionalism, attitude and effort.  That he doesn't measure up to the standard of footballer required at this level and at this club is not his fault.  I can't play the piano but it doesn't stop me trying.

Spot on. I would prefer someone else there, but Hutton is one of the few in the side I have any time for.

I agree. (Although in my case it's bass guitar that sends the dog running)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 02, 2016, 11:08:05 PM
We should have a banner based on the Chelsea one for their captain. Words used to describe our defending this evening.

CALAMITOUS, LAUGHABLE, MISTAKE AFTER MISTAKE.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 02, 2016, 11:24:30 PM
Whatever we think of the snake, at least you knew he'd leave nothing on the field.

Richards showed no desire to prevent any of the three goals today.

There's plenty of people whose back I want to see moving though the exit door, and he's one of the main culprits.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 02, 2016, 11:27:27 PM
I didn't think he was too bad at CB in the early weeks but he's mirrored our form big time and has got more hopeless by the weeks, his positional sense has been as bad as I thought it would be and what I remember from when he played there at City and Dunne had to bail him out time and again.

If he has to play it has to be at RB. Him there, Adama also starting out wide and suddenly our team has a bit more pace in wide areas and looks more threatening.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villabear on January 03, 2016, 01:04:31 PM
Micah just on Twitter:
"I just want to say to all of you great Villa fans that I can assure you that me, the whole team and everyone at the club will be giving absolutely everything from now until the end of the season. There are 18 games to go and we will give everything for the badge! #UTV
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Pete3206 on January 03, 2016, 01:07:04 PM
Fuck off. (not you villabear!)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on January 03, 2016, 01:18:45 PM
Micah just on Twitter:
"I just want to say to all of you great Villa fans that I can assure you that me, the whole team and everyone at the club will be giving absolutely everything from now until the end of the season. There are 18 games to go and we will give everything for the badge! #UTV

I'm sick and tired of all these bullshit quotes on social media, just go out there and fucking show us.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 03, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
Micah just on Twitter:
"I just want to say to all of you great Villa fans that I can assure you that me, the whole team and everyone at the club will be giving absolutely everything from now until the end of the season. There are 18 games to go and we will give everything for the badge! #UTV

what a wanker

pity they couldnt be arsed for the first 20 games

if anyone wants him fuck him off in the window
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: itbrvilla on January 03, 2016, 01:26:17 PM
This ****** was one of the worst yesterday.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 03, 2016, 01:33:46 PM
Micah just on Twitter:
"I just want to say to all of you great Villa fans that I can assure you that me, the whole team and everyone at the club will be giving absolutely everything from now until the end of the season. There are 18 games to go and we will give everything for the badge! #UTV

Instead of telling us, why don't you show us you bunch of wet lettuces?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 03, 2016, 01:37:29 PM
Exactly.

Talks the talk but never walks the walk. Acts the tough guy in tunnels or where it doesn't matter.

Do it on the pitch. Be a fucking Captain. Be a fucking leader.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: andyh on January 03, 2016, 01:42:36 PM
If there is one thing I detest more than wastrel footballers, it's patronising, wastrel footballers.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 03, 2016, 01:44:38 PM
If  he played as much attention to his game when  he is not suspended or injured it would be a start.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on January 03, 2016, 01:46:26 PM
Fucking weasel.

Him and Clark a between then 70 international cap pairing. Both utterly useless.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on January 03, 2016, 01:48:05 PM
I didn't think he was too bad at CB in the early weeks but he's mirrored our form big time and has got more hopeless by the weeks, his positional sense has been as bad as I thought it would be and what I remember from when he played there at City and Dunne had to bail him out time and again.

If he has to play it has to be at RB. Him there, Adama also starting out wide and suddenly our team has a bit more pace in wide areas and looks more threatening.

I agree about his first few games, he was great. He has got worse though and it's time to put him back where should be playing. With Hutton out injured by the look of it, it's the ideal time.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on January 03, 2016, 01:48:47 PM
Fucking weasel.

Him and Clark a between then 70 international cap pairing. Both utterly useless.

Seems it is nearer 30 - sorry for misinformaition
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 03, 2016, 01:55:45 PM
Micah just on Twitter:
"I just want to say to all of you great Villa fans that I can assure you that me, the whole team and everyone at the club will be giving absolutely everything from now until the end of the season. There are 18 games to go and we will give everything for the badge! #UTV

I'm sick and tired of all these bullshit quotes on social media, just go out there and fucking show us.

At the very least get it right.

The badge is a piece of fabric that you'll kiss for whoever is paying you the most money.

You're doing it for the fans.  Especially those that invest vast amounts of time and money following you around the country with a return of

F¤¤k all
(SQRT) F¤¤k all.

It must be like being a groupie following your favourite band around.

Turn up at every gig knowing that there's a good chance you're going to get  f¤¤ked by a least one of the band
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: john e on January 03, 2016, 02:00:31 PM
We'll thank goodness
No worries now I feel becalmed by that tweet
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on January 03, 2016, 02:11:24 PM
And there was me fretting.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 03, 2016, 02:15:25 PM
It's great news and I'm sure has given everybody a real lift along with the news about the revenue from kit sponsorship. I look forward to captain fantastic kissing the badge when we secure a much needed point at home to Norwich.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on January 03, 2016, 02:17:37 PM
I feel sorry for the reporter. Take the gum out when you speak Micah.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 03, 2016, 02:27:20 PM
It's great news and I'm sure has given everybody a real lift along with the news about the revenue from kit sponsorship. I look forward to captain fantastic kissing the badge when we secure a much needed point at home to Norwich.

A point at home to Norwich? Oh you mad, crazy, optimistic fool you! 😏
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Proposition Joe on January 03, 2016, 02:28:20 PM
Sunderland's second goal showed why he should not be a centre back.  Stepping out into no man's land and leaving Lescott 1 on 1.  His positioning is all over the place.

Get him at RB, Okore and Lescott in the middle.  If he moans and will only play CB, send him to the U21s.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Singapore Villa on January 03, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
Ban the players from social media and only information based articles on the official website.  Completely fed up with all the nonsense that we are made to read. Show us you care on the f****ng pitch! 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 03, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Exactly.

Talks the talk but never walks the walk. Acts the tough guy in tunnels or where it doesn't matter.

Do it on the pitch. Be a fucking Captain. Be a fucking leader.

I think he's too much of a loose cannon to be captain material.  A good captain should be a calming influence whenever there's any agro on the field, not jumping in and making it worse.

That said, there's nobody in the squad is would consider appropriate as a captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: passport1 on January 03, 2016, 11:55:55 PM
He reacts to situations rather than anticipating them as an experienced centre half would .Infact with his poor reading of the game combined with Guzans it is truly frightening.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 04, 2016, 12:02:29 AM
I feel sorry for the reporter. Take the gum out when you speak Micah.
Take the gum out of your arse Micah when you jump.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on January 04, 2016, 12:08:34 AM
id play him right back until the season end in every minute of every game

maybe just maybe he might play himself into some bit of form for some chump manager to bring this charlatan in their club next season

with the length of his contract, we need rid of him asap in the summer

dont think Micah's ego would take playing in the championship, better playing for fake medals like the one Citeh gave him one year when he hadnt played the required number of games
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: nigel on January 04, 2016, 08:51:47 AM
He reacts to situations rather than anticipating them as an experienced centre half would .Infact with his poor reading of the game combined with Guzans it is truly frightening.

Guzan has the worst back 4 playing in front of him that I've witnessed for a Villa team.
It's little wonder he makes mistakes, he's having to concentrate on four other players games as well as his own.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on January 04, 2016, 08:54:59 AM
Perhaps the back four are unsettled by having such a bag of jelly between the sticks.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 04, 2016, 08:57:55 AM
I'd been frustrated but understanding of both Sherwood's and Garde's reluctance to play him at right back without Okore to fill in at centre back, but Saturday pissed me off.
Especially as the centre pairing that's looked least shit so far is Okore and Lescott.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: nigel on January 04, 2016, 10:59:26 AM
Perhaps the back four are unsettled by having such a bag of jelly between the sticks.

I think that's very unlikely, Brian.

I think we all know that Guzan and Benteke, between them, kept us in the Prem for two or three seasons on their own, so we know that he's a very capable keeper.

I reckon that Peter Shilton and Gordon Banks (arguably the best two ever) would be reduced to shivering wrecks behind our back four    ;D
 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: nigel on January 04, 2016, 11:06:44 AM
I'd been frustrated but understanding of both Sherwood's and Garde's reluctance to play him at right back without Okore to fill in at centre back, but Saturday pissed me off.
Especially as the centre pairing that's looked least shit so far is Okore and Lescott.

I'd read that Okore was carrying a knock, which was why he didnt start.
I can only assume that it's not a bad one as he was on the bench.

At the end of last season the Okore/Clark combo was looking good.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 04, 2016, 11:06:50 AM
I'd been frustrated but understanding of both Sherwood's and Garde's reluctance to play him at right back without Okore to fill in at centre back, but Saturday pissed me off.
Especially as the centre pairing that's looked least shit so far is Okore and Lescott.

I didn't get that either. Why drop Okore when he has been less shit than anyone else in the middle? 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 04, 2016, 11:41:20 AM
I'd been frustrated but understanding of both Sherwood's and Garde's reluctance to play him at right back without Okore to fill in at centre back, but Saturday pissed me off.
Especially as the centre pairing that's looked least shit so far is Okore and Lescott.

I didn't get that either. Why drop Okore when he has been less shit than anyone else in the middle? 

He missed the Norwich game due to inflammation in the knee he's had two operations on which is obviously fair enough. But if he was fit enough to be on the bench, then presumably he was fit enough to start and could have missed Wycombe if necessary.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 04, 2016, 11:52:49 AM
The thought that it might be in his contract that he only plays at Centre half, if this was anyone else but the Aston Villa administration team, better known as the Chuckle Brothers, would be absolutely outrageous, even if it is, tell him this is where he needs to play, right back, if he does not like it he can go forth and multiply in the summer which he will probably do anyhow. Plays crap bomb squad him, it is not as if we have not done that to better players than him before.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 04, 2016, 11:55:08 AM
Oh and by the way stay of Twitter you Twat, do all your talking out on the pitch or under the supervision of a comms / media officer from Villa Park (if we have one) as it seems to be taking you longer after each twatter to get your boots out of your mouth.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 04, 2016, 05:19:33 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.

I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 04, 2016, 06:42:23 PM
fuck the fucker right off if true.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 04, 2016, 06:45:38 PM
I would fuck him off in January if someone takes on his wages. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Irish villain on January 04, 2016, 06:49:16 PM
To go from having captains and natural leaders such as Richardson, Townsend, Southgate, Melberg, Barry, Laursen and Petrov to the ones of recent years (Bent and Gabby were also appointed captains at one time right?) speaks volumes really.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 04, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
To go from having captains and natural leaders such as Richardson, Townsend, Southgate, Melberg, Barry, Laursen and Petrov to the ones of recent years (Bent and Gabby were also appointed captains at one time right?) speaks volumes really.

It just proves that the standard of players we signed over the years was in a steep decline.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 04, 2016, 06:56:47 PM
I'd also like to see him got rid of at the earliest possible opportunity.

In fact, I'd have Stanley the Vitality sausage dog in at full back before Richards.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 04, 2016, 07:06:50 PM
I would fuck him off in January if someone takes on his wages.

seconded

i wouldnt mind if the wanker was any good
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 04, 2016, 07:33:55 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.

I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.

Then he should be dropped and left out of the squad until we can sell him in the Summer. Anyone making any kind of waves at the moment should be kicked to the curb and replaced by the youth team. We have nothing to lose, we have no points anyway, we need to start clamping down on shirkers and wankers now and set the disciplinary scene for next season now. ''Project championship'' needs to start today.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 04, 2016, 07:41:48 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.

I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.

Then he should be dropped and left out of the squad until we can sell him in the Summer. Anyone making any kind of waves at the moment should be kicked to the curb and replaced by the youth team. We have nothing to lose, we have no points anyway, we need to start clamping down on shirkers and wankers now and set the disciplinary scene for next season now. ''Project championship'' needs to start today.

agree 100%

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 04, 2016, 08:45:35 PM
I don't agree with much of what you say aj2k77 but if cheltenham's info is correct then I think that you're right on that one. We actually look worse with him lining up at centre back, as incredible as that seems.

If his head is so far up his arse that he refuses to play full back then:
1. Drop him. It's not as though we're weakening the team by not playing him at all
2. If it's not in his contract (and regardless of whether Karl or cheltenham are right, they've both heard that it isn't contractual that he can't play fullback) then if he's refusing then surely he's in breach of contract. Hopefully that would result in loss of wages / opening to tear up contract.

If he's actually willing to play there and it was Remi's call on Saturday then to me that's one almighty bollock dropped.

See what the line up is for Wycombe if Hutton's out. If Richards is in the starting 11 and anywhere other than right back then you'll probably hear me scream from there.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 04, 2016, 08:56:44 PM
If it's Bacuna right back and Richardson left back I'll join you in the screaming.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 04, 2016, 08:58:01 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.
I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.
So whilst  not explicitly written in the contract Sherwood must have agreed and convinced him that he will only play centre back. If so it's disgraceful neglect of duty by the then manager.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 04, 2016, 09:06:12 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.
I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.
So whilst  not explicitly written in the contract Sherwood must have agreed and convinced him that he will only play centre back. If so it's disgraceful neglect of duty by the then manager.
You expected anything else from Tim Charlatan?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 04, 2016, 09:07:31 PM
No... the Chisler was only interested in one thing!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 04, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.
I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.
So whilst  not explicitly written in the contract Sherwood must have agreed and convinced him that he will only play centre back. If so it's disgraceful neglect of duty by the then manager.

Without revealing too much, that is about the size of it. And he hasn't stopped playing up like a kid disgusted with what was in his Christmas stocking since Tactics got the boot.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 04, 2016, 09:48:03 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.
I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.
So whilst  not explicitly written in the contract Sherwood must have agreed and convinced him that he will only play centre back. If so it's disgraceful neglect of duty by the then manager.

Without revealing too much, that is about the size of it. And he hasn't stopped playing up like a kid disgusted with what was in his Christmas stocking since Tactics got the boot.

The rumours about the "gentlemen's (ha f##king ha) agreement were circulating around the time he signed.  What a pair of - INSERT EXPLETIVE(S) OF OWN CHOICE.

If he wants maybe we could send some of the more prolific posters from the shithouse thread to leave something in his stockings.  They say actions speak louder than words.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on January 04, 2016, 09:48:54 PM
Like I said over on the the other thread, it doesn't sound like the kind of thing Garde would stand for. I'm trying not to come across that i'm doubting cheltenhamlion, just putting a different slant on it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on January 04, 2016, 09:50:01 PM
If true get rid ASAP.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 04, 2016, 09:58:13 PM
Like I said over on the the other thread, it doesn't sound like the kind of thing Garde would stand for. I'm trying not to come across that i'm doubting cheltenhamlion, just putting a different slant on it.

Doubt me all you like. I won't take it personally.

More than one person I rate for ITK has told me the same about Richards. Malignant is where we come back to.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 04, 2016, 10:05:56 PM
It says so much about the lack of discipline around Villa Park these days when you've got the bloody captain picking fights with people on twitter.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: four fornicholl on January 04, 2016, 10:19:44 PM
I maybe stating the obvious but he wont play fullback because he is an overpaid righteous lazy batarde
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Fasth56 on January 04, 2016, 10:26:00 PM
So it appears Delph may have been telling the truth about Richards encouraging him to jump ship.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 04, 2016, 10:40:55 PM
If I was manager and he refused to play full back he'd be in the reserves faster than you could say ******
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: glasses on January 04, 2016, 10:43:49 PM
It isn't in his contract I spoke to someone on Monday who has a long association with Micah and he is open to playing RB if it helps the team.

I heard different. There is nothing in his contract to say where he plays but he pointedly refuses to play at full back. A pretty bad egg around the club as well so I am told.
This seems believable to me. For some fuel for the fire I'd also watch a replay of his goal vs watford. A massive goal for us at the time, and boy did he celebrate.

Nobody celebrated with him. It always struck me as odd, that the captain scored, went ballistic, and none of his teammates seemed to give a shit. Remember thinking that was very telling
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 04, 2016, 10:49:53 PM
Seeing one or two things on twitter about Richards taking the piss out of Garde behind his back.

No proof of course, but is this really the behaviour expected of the captain of Aston Villa?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ian. on January 04, 2016, 10:52:04 PM
What is it with these Man City rejects and their so we're told behind the scenes attitudes? Dunne, Ireland, Richards...

I just hope Lescott does not develop one, what with being well past it and shit as well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: four fornicholl on January 04, 2016, 11:00:35 PM
he openly slagged off the French contingent as long ago as November when kmac was looking after us,
wanker
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 04, 2016, 11:05:16 PM
Seeing one or two things on twitter about Richards taking the piss out of Garde behind his back.
No proof of course, but is this really the behaviour expected of the captain of Aston Villa?
No it's the expected behaviour from Richards and it's unfortunate that some c*** appointed him as our captain.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: exigo on January 04, 2016, 11:11:17 PM
Strip him of the captaincy, fine him the maximum two weeks wages and show every other waste of a shirt that enough is enough.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 04, 2016, 11:16:13 PM
I'm suspicious about Richards.  It's no coincidence that we actually started to look a bit more solid at Newcastle and home to spam without him and as soon as he's back in the circus style defending has returned.  The issue is with him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: achilles on January 04, 2016, 11:22:41 PM
Can someone explain where Richards was for Sunderland's third goal?
He was nowhere to be seen when MOTD showed the goal, right from Bacuna's throw in till the goal, nowhere in sight!

This is a serious question as I would have expected our captain and CH to be in the vicinity of our penalty area, perhaps he was injured and off the pitch?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 04, 2016, 11:24:05 PM
So it appears Delph may have been telling the truth about Richards encouraging him to jump ship.
No matter how bad Richards is that slithering wanker two faced lying c*** will always trump him IMO. So we don't need to listen to him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 04, 2016, 11:26:20 PM
I'm convinced he's heavily involved in a dressing room split.  He came out with that article a while ago which was wholly ill advised effectively criticising the characters in the dressing room.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 04, 2016, 11:27:10 PM
Can someone explain where Richards was for Sunderland's third goal?


On twitter having an internet fight.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 04, 2016, 11:29:07 PM
I'm convinced he's heavily involved in a dressing room split.  He came out with that article a while ago which was wholly ill advised effectively criticising the characters in the dressing room.

The article where from memory he claimed the other players aren't trying as hard as he is? We have 8 pts, 8 measly points, of course there is a dressing room problem, a big one. This fucker will be there or there abouts.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Olof's Beard on January 04, 2016, 11:29:37 PM
Can someone explain where Richards was for Sunderland's third goal?
He was nowhere to be seen when MOTD showed the goal, right from Bacuna's throw in till the goal, nowhere in sight!

This is a serious question as I would have expected our captain and CH to be in the vicinity of our penalty area, perhaps he was injured and off the pitch?

You can see him in one of the replays, standing up on the half way line.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ian. on January 04, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
Can someone explain where Richards was for Sunderland's third goal?
He was nowhere to be seen when MOTD showed the goal, right from Bacuna's throw in till the goal, nowhere in sight!

This is a serious question as I would have expected our captain and CH to be in the vicinity of our penalty area, perhaps he was injured and off the pitch?
He was on his mobile tweeting Wrighty.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 04, 2016, 11:36:12 PM
I think Newcastle and West Ham showed that we are better at the back without him. West Ham the goal only came from the defensive re-organisation post Sanchez going off injured. Hutton was his usual liability but we at least held a back 4 for much of the game.

Richards is back and we concede comedy goal after comedy goal. I have never gone off a player so fast watching Villa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 04, 2016, 11:38:52 PM
Can someone explain where Richards was for Sunderland's third goal?
He was nowhere to be seen when MOTD showed the goal, right from Bacuna's throw in till the goal, nowhere in sight!

This is a serious question as I would have expected our captain and CH to be in the vicinity of our penalty area, perhaps he was injured and off the pitch?

I asked this on the match thread. He was literally no where to be seen. Bacuna ends up closest to Defoe.

What the feck was he doing, we had not just been laying siege the other end or anything.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: David_Nab on January 04, 2016, 11:42:30 PM
I think Newcastle and West Ham showed that we are better at the back without him. West Ham the goal only came from the defensive re-organisation post Sanchez going off injured. Hutton was his usual liability but we at least held a back 4 for much of the game.

Richards is back and we concede comedy goal after comedy goal. I have never gone off a player so fast watching Villa.

Combination of Richards returning and Sanchez being out

Just seems crazy we keep playing him at CB when all the video evidence shows he is causing us issues with his positioning and when at RB his good attributes speed and strength would easily make him a better option than Hutton
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Drummond on January 04, 2016, 11:44:43 PM
If all this is true then why the fuck are we giving him a game?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Bully2345 on January 05, 2016, 07:20:43 AM
Richards spent the last ten minutes on Saturday going on his mad dashes up front with little effort to get back. By the time of the goal, I think he was playing up front
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on January 05, 2016, 09:08:11 AM
Richards being constantly out of position is bad enough but when Hutton does the same you can see as clear as day how we concede so many soft goals.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on January 05, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
I think Newcastle and West Ham showed that we are better at the back without him. West Ham the goal only came from the defensive re-organisation post Sanchez going off injured. Hutton was his usual liability but we at least held a back 4 for much of the game.

Richards is back and we concede comedy goal after comedy goal. I have never gone off a player so fast watching Villa.

Agree I'd punt him at right back for a couple of games though to see if he is any better than Hutton.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Quiet Lion on January 05, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
Even when he played at right back his positioning and concentration were his weakest points. Only a total idiot of Sherwoodesque proportions would think anyone with these specific deficiencies should play in the centre of defence.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 05, 2016, 01:22:41 PM
If all this is true then why the fuck are we giving him a game?

Because nobody as far as I can tell knows if it is true or not
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: SamTheMouse on January 05, 2016, 01:23:40 PM
When he first made it into the Man City first team, I thought he looked a decent right-back, as he liked to go on rampaging runs forward and frequently caused havoc.

Then he played at CB and looked total rubbish, with no positional sense.

Plus ça change...
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Bad English on January 05, 2016, 03:57:13 PM
I have just asked him (on Twitter) if he fancies playing left LB a bit. But I asked him in French.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 05, 2016, 05:46:37 PM
he probably knows more French than english
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: eamonn on January 05, 2016, 06:24:08 PM
Seeing as we're all sticking the boot in for him being a tool - at City he used to impress the youth players (an old neighbour of mine being one of them) by doing handbrake turns in the car park at Citeh's old(?) training ground. At least he didn't stub Jamie Tandy's eye with a cigar, I guess. (Here's Joey's take on the latter incident if you're inclined to read it http://www.joeybarton.com/jamie-tandy-and-the-cigar/
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 05, 2016, 09:59:42 PM
Ian Taylor was really scathing about Richards on the radio last night.  Basically told him to shut up.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 06, 2016, 09:22:52 AM
I believe Alan Hutton is contributing to the poor form of Richards.

Take a look at the average position of Hutton v Sunderland.

Look at the space Richards has to cover.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2015/matches/803352/team-stats/7/OVERALL_01#tabs-wrapper-anchor#:V8H3olfJfUXDVA

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Proposition Joe on January 06, 2016, 10:46:40 AM
I believe Alan Hutton is contributing to the poor form of Richards.

Take a look at the average position of Hutton v Sunderland.

Look at the space Richards has to cover.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2015/matches/803352/team-stats/7/OVERALL_01#tabs-wrapper-anchor#:V8H3olfJfUXDVA



Maybe, but Sunderland's second made me think it was the other way round.  The left side of defence drops back but Richards moves forward.  Hutton takes his lead from his captain and defensive "organiser" and also stays forward.  Meaning Lescott, who did the correct thing, was left all on his lonesome.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: achilles on January 06, 2016, 11:23:23 AM
I believe Alan Hutton is contributing to the poor form of Richards.

Take a look at the average position of Hutton v Sunderland.

Look at the space Richards has to cover.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2015/matches/803352/team-stats/7/OVERALL_01#tabs-wrapper-anchor#:V8H3olfJfUXDVA



Hutton is supposed to get forward and play slightly in front of the centre halves, Richards just does his own thing (i.e. awol for the 3rd goal)!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 06, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
I believe Alan Hutton is contributing to the poor form of Richards.

Take a look at the average position of Hutton v Sunderland.

Look at the space Richards has to cover.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2015/matches/803352/team-stats/7/OVERALL_01#tabs-wrapper-anchor#:V8H3olfJfUXDVA



Maybe, but Sunderland's second made me think it was the other way round.  The left side of defence drops back but Richards moves forward.  Hutton takes his lead from his captain and defensive "organiser" and also stays forward.  Meaning Lescott, who did the correct thing, was left all on his lonesome.

Whilst still not good enough, the defensive was noticeably less Keystone Cops like when Richards was out, with Hutton still playing at right back.

Neither of them are good enough as individuals where they're currently playing, but together they're the antithesis of being greater than the sum of your parts, they actually amplify each other's deficiencies.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: andyh on January 06, 2016, 12:19:44 PM
Didn't the West Ham goal come from a massive hole left by Hutton who had gone walkabout at that point? 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 06, 2016, 12:25:50 PM
It did, but also because Gil had come on down the right, where Westwood had been covering back for Hutton. Westwood moved, so there was a big hole.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 06, 2016, 01:16:52 PM
I believe Alan Hutton is contributing to the poor form of Richards.

He is, because despite putting in a lot of effort he's crap going forwards and defending, just as Richards is totally crap in the middle. The opposition don't mind him having the ball and bombing up the wing as they know there will be no end product which inevitably means they'll get the ball back and be able to attack down that side knowing he's stranded up the pitch or blowing out of his arse trying to get back

It's so glaringly obvious what needs doing
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 06, 2016, 01:34:06 PM
Hutton can't cross, so it's pointless him crossing the half way line.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 06, 2016, 06:39:11 PM
I sometimes wonder if we might be better off if none of them venture across the half way line.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on January 06, 2016, 06:47:32 PM
I sometimes wonder if we might be better off if none of them venture across the half way line.

TSM1 and TSM2 Version 2 had a damn good bash at that tactic.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 06, 2016, 08:37:55 PM
and we were never bottom
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 06, 2016, 10:16:00 PM
I sometimes wonder if we might be better off if none of them venture across the half way line.

We'd be better off if they didn't venture across the touch line.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on January 06, 2016, 11:01:26 PM
and we were never bottom

They knew a thing or two about a thing about or two.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on January 07, 2016, 11:52:07 AM
I sometimes wonder if we might be better off if none of them venture across the half way line.

We'd be better off if they didn't venture across the touch line.

Bravo
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: RussellC on January 07, 2016, 12:07:20 PM
Hutton isn't helped by the fact that that we don't keep possession very well in midfield or upfront. He's being asked to get forward and back constantly, but lose the ball so frequently and so quickly that he's often the fall guy when the whole team are caught out of shape.

I agree with the general consensus that he's still not good enough, but I think Richards at centre-half is more of a pressing concern.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: berneboy on January 07, 2016, 12:09:10 PM
Hutton isn't helped by the fact that that we don't keep possession very well in midfield or upfront. He's being asked to get forward and back constantly, but lose the ball so frequently and so quickly that he's often the fall guy when the whole team are caught out of shape.

I agree with the general consensus that he's still not good enough, but I think Richards at centre-half is more of a pressing concern.

I agree. Richards worries me. He seems to lack calmness and a real football brain. Strength and athleticism isn't enough.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 07, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
Hutton isn't helped by the fact that that we don't keep possession very well in midfield or upfront. He's being asked to get forward and back constantly, but lose the ball so frequently and so quickly that he's often the fall guy when the whole team are caught out of shape.

I agree with the general consensus that he's still not good enough, but I think Richards at centre-half is more of a pressing concern.

I agree. Richards worries me. He seems to lack calmness and a real football brain. Strength and athleticism isn't enough.

His positional sense and ability to "cover", seeing as he is the leading defender, is complete shite.

When I can muster the strength to watch any highlights I am consistently amazed at where he finds himself as the opposition - Sunderland ffs! - tear us apart with ease.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 07, 2016, 02:44:01 PM


With Hutton seemingly out, and Okore fit. If he doesn't play at right back this weekend i'll probably have a coronary

But unlike most i'd partner Okore with Clark in the hope they can recapture that partnership they started last season. Lescott can sit on his arse
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: AVH87 on January 07, 2016, 02:49:58 PM


With Hutton seemingly out, and Okore fit. If he doesn't play at right back this weekend i'll probably have a coronary

But unlike most i'd partner Okore with Clark in the hope they can recapture that partnership they started last season. Lescott can sit on his arse

I'd go with Lescott. Clark has had half a season where he has looked good enough out of about the last 6, Lescott had years of being a solid defender at Everton and Man City but is just a bit past it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 09, 2016, 12:09:43 AM
I can't remember the last time I disliked a Villa player as much as I do Richards.

Since he first rocked up and started recommending Man City to Delph he hasn't stopped gobbing off to the media and has been bloody annoying.

He has been bloody awful at centre half, constantly out of position and dropping clangers and keeping better players out of the team.

It also seems he has been a bad influence in the dressing room, with him being anti the french players in the press.

I really dislike him, and hope he gets sold pronto.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 09, 2016, 12:12:37 AM
I just think he's never been and never will a centre half. I think he'd be a really good right back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on January 09, 2016, 12:50:18 AM
I just think he's one of those horribly overrated players who lives off a couple of good seasons early on in his career - see also Stephen Ireland (although that wasmore like a good 6 months).

He's shown zero, nothing, zilch to suggest he's anywhere near Captain material and has largely been a liability. And that's before we start to mention his big mouth.

A bad influence allround.

Get rid if an offer comes along.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mister E on January 09, 2016, 07:27:06 AM
I just think he's one of those horribly overrated players who lives off a couple of good seasons early on in his career - see also Stephen Ireland (although that wasmore like a good 6 months).

He's shown zero, nothing, zilch to suggest he's anywhere near Captain material and has largely been a liability. And that's before we start to mention his big mouth.

A bad influence allround.

Get rid if an offer comes along.
CNZ is another example of a player living off one 6 month period.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 09, 2016, 08:58:06 AM
We seem to buy them too often
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 09, 2016, 09:01:37 AM


With Hutton seemingly out, and Okore fit. If he doesn't play at right back this weekend i'll probably have a coronary

But unlike most i'd partner Okore with Clark in the hope they can recapture that partnership they started last season. Lescott can sit on his arse

this

we need to be planning for the future and lescott isnt part of it
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on January 09, 2016, 02:52:48 PM
Micah Richards this season - Poor captain, poor centre back and now a poor right back.
A waste of resources
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 09, 2016, 02:56:07 PM
Blimey, just seen the footage of him "in a heavy conversation" with fans after the game.

Looks like fans were having a right pop at him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 09, 2016, 02:59:46 PM
He's shit. Doesn't deserve to captain a club like this.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ajdainty89 on January 09, 2016, 03:02:10 PM
I couldn't believe it when we signed him, it felt like we just re-brought Larsson. Since then Iv'e been wishing for him to go back to a right back,
Right back today now i'm wishing him to go back.



Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: bob on January 09, 2016, 03:04:50 PM
Terrible footballer
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villafirst on January 09, 2016, 03:10:17 PM
Disagree.....The shit Management and people running the club have destroyed the players confidence. All these players look decent anywhere than Villa. Need new ownership desperately. Most of it boils down to confidence which is completely shot with most of players with defeat after defeat.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: tomd2103 on January 09, 2016, 03:13:27 PM
Seemed to want to play his own game today and as a result, spent most of the game upfield.  We would get murdered against top flight opposition with him playing like that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ads on January 09, 2016, 03:16:36 PM
He's wank.

They showed the Man United goal this morning, he's jumping in an falling on his backside. That's fuck all to do with confidence, he's just shit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 09, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
Disagree.....The shit Management and people running the club have destroyed the players confidence. All these players look decent anywhere than Villa. Need new ownership desperately. Most of it boils down to confidence which is completely shot with most of players with defeat after defeat.

Disagree, the players aren't playing for the manager (whichever one it is) and that means a rotten dressing room to me. Garde's fighting an un winnable battle to my mind
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 09, 2016, 03:38:40 PM
so who are they playing for?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Walmley_Villa on January 09, 2016, 03:40:49 PM
so who are they playing for?

They aren't playing full stop.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 09, 2016, 03:41:27 PM
so who are they playing for?

clearly nobody
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 09, 2016, 03:59:56 PM
obviously but the implication was that they were specifically against Garde and reading between the lines pining for Tim
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: myf on January 09, 2016, 04:04:22 PM
Looks like hes been pumping weight and way too top heavy as well. Just a bit of a cock really. Theres no way he should be a captain. Thought his goal was lucky as well - didnt see many celebrating with him either
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 09, 2016, 04:07:19 PM
Looks like hes been pumping weight and way too top heavy as well. Just a bit of a cock really. Theres no way he should be a captain. Thought his goal was lucky as well - didnt see many celebrating with him either

Not much captain material in the squad though.
I thought he took his goal quite well, and I wouldn't look too deeply in the lack of celebration either. It's Division 4 Wycombe in the Cup not a PL match.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 09, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
Looks like hes been pumping weight and way too top heavy as well. Just a bit of a cock really. Theres no way he should be a captain. Thought his goal was lucky as well - didnt see many celebrating with him either

Not much captain material in the squad though.
I thought he took his goal quite well, and I wouldn't look too deeply in the lack of celebration either. It's Division 4 Wycombe in the Cup not a PL match.
There may or may not be anything in it, but it was similar when he scored against Watford.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 09, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
Looks like hes been pumping weight and way too top heavy as well. Just a bit of a cock really. Theres no way he should be a captain. Thought his goal was lucky as well - didnt see many celebrating with him either

Not much captain material in the squad though.
I thought he took his goal quite well, and I wouldn't look too deeply in the lack of celebration either. It's Division 4 Wycombe in the Cup not a PL match.
There may or may not be anything in it, but it was similar when he scored against Watford.

Well put it this way, I'd hope they'd be nothing in it. That's all we need.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 09, 2016, 04:21:03 PM
Who was it who, when he scored once, bent down and picked a bit of mud off his boot while ignoring everyone?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 09, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
Atkinson?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on January 09, 2016, 04:25:14 PM
He made a massive deal about Gil not running on to his pass too - way over the top.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Smirker on January 09, 2016, 04:25:31 PM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/micah-richards-speaks-to-furious-aston-villa-fans-after-the-draw-at-wycombe-video/

Video of confrontation. Apologies if posted already.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 09, 2016, 04:26:39 PM
Who was it who, when he scored once, bent down and picked a bit of mud off his boot while ignoring everyone?

No idea but I never saw Sid celebrate a goal he'd scored.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: passport1 on January 09, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
Post goal celebrations this season. That could be the shortest thread ever.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on January 09, 2016, 04:29:56 PM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/micah-richards-speaks-to-furious-aston-villa-fans-after-the-draw-at-wycombe-video/

Video of confrontation. Apologies if posted already.
At least he faced them
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 09, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
Looks like hes been pumping weight and way too top heavy as well. Just a bit of a cock really. Theres no way he should be a captain. Thought his goal was lucky as well - didnt see many celebrating with him either

Not much captain material in the squad though.
I thought he took his goal quite well, and I wouldn't look too deeply in the lack of celebration either. It's Division 4 Wycombe in the Cup not a PL match.
There may or may not be anything in it, but it was similar when he scored against Watford.

Well put it this way, I'd hope they'd be nothing in it. That's all we need.

I have a nasty feeling that that's where we've been pretty much from day 1 and the shit hit  the fan after Leicester. That was where Sherwood started the "nothing to do with me" routine and Richards was quoted about dressing room splits, whilst also managing to paint it all onto the French recruits.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 09, 2016, 04:38:51 PM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/micah-richards-speaks-to-furious-aston-villa-fans-after-the-draw-at-wycombe-video/

Video of confrontation. Apologies if posted already.
At least he faced them

Yep, fair play to him for that. Didn't seem much of a heated confrontation, although hard to hear what Richards is saying in reply.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on January 09, 2016, 04:38:59 PM
Is it possible to hear what he actually said?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on January 09, 2016, 04:41:19 PM
Is it possible to hear what he actually said?

"I could be in Barbados you ungrateful plebs"
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Richard on January 09, 2016, 04:43:22 PM
Nothing to see here move on - thought it was a frank but not heated discussion about a lack of passion from the whole team
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Taylor on January 09, 2016, 04:43:38 PM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/micah-richards-speaks-to-furious-aston-villa-fans-after-the-draw-at-wycombe-video/

Video of confrontation. Apologies if posted already.
At least he faced them

Yep, fair play to him for that. Didn't seem much of a heated confrontation, although hard to hear what Richards is saying in reply.
It all looks quite amicable to me, still would be interesting to hear what was said.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 09, 2016, 04:44:30 PM
Bournemouth reserves winning at the Sty.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Bollocks, wrong thread!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 09, 2016, 04:45:22 PM
Is it possible to hear what he actually said?

Which one of you wants to chauffeur me home?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 09, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Bournemouth reserves winning at the Sty.

Bit of good news today after all!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 09, 2016, 04:47:17 PM
Looks like hes been pumping weight and way too top heavy as well. Just a bit of a cock really. Theres no way he should be a captain. Thought his goal was lucky as well - didnt see many celebrating with him either

Not much captain material in the squad though.
I thought he took his goal quite well, and I wouldn't look too deeply in the lack of celebration either. It's Division 4 Wycombe in the Cup not a PL match.
There may or may not be anything in it, but it was similar when he scored against Watford.

Well put it this way, I'd hope they'd be nothing in it. That's all we need.

I have a nasty feeling that that's where we've been pretty much from day 1 and the shit hit  the fan after Leicester. That was where Sherwood started the "nothing to do with me" routine and Richards was quoted about dressing room splits, whilst also managing to paint it all onto the French recruits.

What a mess. I hate all this.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Duncan Shaw on January 09, 2016, 04:48:07 PM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/micah-richards-speaks-to-furious-aston-villa-fans-after-the-draw-at-wycombe-video/

Video of confrontation. Apologies if posted already.
At least he faced them

Yep, fair play to him for that. Didn't seem much of a heated confrontation, although hard to hear what Richards is saying in reply.

It all looks quite amicable to me, still would be interesting to hear what was said.
This for me too, he's actually gone up in my estimation here as I thought I was going to see him having a go in a heated exchange.  He seems to be agreeing and debating calmly.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: itbrvilla on January 09, 2016, 04:59:39 PM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/micah-richards-speaks-to-furious-aston-villa-fans-after-the-draw-at-wycombe-video/

Video of confrontation. Apologies if posted already.
At least he faced them

Yep, fair play to him for that. Didn't seem much of a heated confrontation, although hard to hear what Richards is saying in reply.

It all looks quite amicable to me, still would be interesting to hear what was said.
This for me too, he's actually gone up in my estimation here as I thought I was going to see him having a go in a heated exchange.  He seems to be agreeing and debating calmly.
He still fucking shit.  And a baby. Why worry what Ian Wright has to say? Get on with it and prove him wrong... sorry,   you actually can't cause your fucking shit and certainly not a leader by example Micah.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 09, 2016, 05:11:04 PM
He did stay calm but can you imagine if he hadn't with cameras everywhere would've been the end for him he ain't that stupid.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 09, 2016, 05:15:14 PM
Garde has come out and defended him also which will go a long way in their relationship and in the dressing room. The fans have every right to be heard and feel the way they do especially the ones who follow the club around the country. But Richards handles it well and doesn't get into it with them.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: lovejoy on January 09, 2016, 05:22:09 PM
Micah Ricahrds has gone up in my estimations today, respect to him for facing the fans like that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 09, 2016, 05:23:51 PM
Micah Ricahrds has gone up in my estimations today, respect to him for facing the fans like that.

Yeah, he's my new Villa hero.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mellin on January 09, 2016, 05:26:47 PM
He's not the most intelligent footballer, but I do think the effort's there. His weakness is positional, not work rate. Fair play to him for talking to the fans. Doesn't make him a hero, but there's a middle ground and it was a nice touch.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: curiousorange on January 09, 2016, 05:35:10 PM
Although I couldn't follow the exchange, Richards did the right thing by engaging with the fans. At a time when the whole country is laughing at us, the last thing you want is to feel the side aren't hearing how much it hurts.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 09, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Micah Ricahrds has gone up in my estimations today, respect to him for facing the fans like that.

yep  better than running off like the others



I thought he did ok at RB actually , looked more threatening than Hutton.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on January 09, 2016, 05:37:47 PM
But what about his positioning as a right back?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 09, 2016, 05:38:15 PM
and yes I know his positioning  at times was poor but Mcgrath , sometimes Hutton is playing on Mars at the same time .
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on January 09, 2016, 05:39:27 PM
In fairness we are talking about today
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 09, 2016, 05:40:01 PM
Id prefer Richards , Okore , Lescott and Aly to be honest.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 09, 2016, 05:42:13 PM
In fairness we are talking about today

I know

and Hutton as cost us lots of points this season

I saw one bad time but he did get back to sort it .

Its not the answer but I just prefer him at RB than Hutton as Huttons final ball is awful and hes costing us more goals and Richards will cost us more at CB.

 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on January 09, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
I agree about Hutton and have been wanting Richards at right back from day one but his positioning today was awful, on more than your one occasion
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Eigentor on January 09, 2016, 05:53:41 PM
Today he was a liability in defence -- against Wycombe. Attackingly he wasn't so poor, maybe he can play in midfield (for 60 minutes). I'm not sure he would be worse than Westwood or Bacuna.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on January 09, 2016, 06:55:42 PM
I wouldn't fuck with him, he's a big lad.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Olof's Beard on January 09, 2016, 07:18:01 PM
But what about his positioning as a right back?

The exchange with the fans came before he was taken off.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Quiet Lion on January 09, 2016, 07:24:39 PM
But what about his positioning as a right back?

The exchange with the fans came before he was taken off.

Excellent
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: themossman on January 09, 2016, 07:39:41 PM
Micah Ricahrds has gone up in my estimations today, respect to him for facing the fans like that.

Yeah, he's my new Villa hero.

Lol'd.

I also respect him slightly more for getting amongst the fans. Fact remains he's a crap centre back and a crap leader. He thinks 'straight talking' is leadership and that talking shit on Twitter is the same thing, also that petulance = passion. I actually think if he could be put in his place, literally and figuratively, he could be good for us. But he's clearly thought he's doing us all a favour by being here since the day he rocked up and I can't see that changing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 09, 2016, 08:03:47 PM
At least the fans who confronted Richards appeared to be attempting a reasonable discussion with him.  Compared to the moronic behaviour of the ones outside the coach......
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: tomd2103 on January 09, 2016, 08:06:37 PM
At least the fans who confronted Richards appeared to be attempting a reasonable discussion with him.  Compared to the moronic behaviour of the ones outside the coach......

The fact that there was no pane of glass in between them and the player might explain that one!!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on January 09, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
The bloke is a grade A twunt.  Listening to him when we signed talking about his time in italy, I thought we might be getting somebody special, somebody who had moved to a foreign league to better themselves and expand their understanding of the game.  But no, he's just your usual thick as pig shit English footballer, and he's crap as well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 09, 2016, 09:19:16 PM
He is the player I most dislike in this team (saying something). A piss poor central defender, trouble maker and a total gobshite in the media.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 09, 2016, 09:33:32 PM
He is the player I most dislike in this team (saying something). A piss poor central defender, trouble maker and a total gobshite in the media.

As disappointed as I am with Micah, kudos to him for speaking to those fans.

I certainly hate Bacuna far more, smiling away and not caring one shit about anything to do with our football club.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Dave on January 09, 2016, 10:28:47 PM
I certainly hate Bacuna far more, smiling away and not caring one shit about anything to do with our football club.

I remember reading on here somebody who did work at his house and apparently it's basically a shrine to Aston Villa. And that he's extremely aware about how lucky he is to play for us.

Doesn't make him any better a footballer, but I don't see why him not being very good means he doesn't care. At the very least, I'd expect he'd care about his reduced wages next season in the Championship.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Harte on January 09, 2016, 10:33:14 PM
I certainly hate Bacuna far more, smiling away and not caring one shit about anything to do with our football club.

I remember reading on here somebody who did work at his house and apparently it's basically a shrine to Aston Villa. And that he's extremely aware about how lucky he is to play for us.

Doesn't make him any better a footballer, but I don't see why him not being very good means he doesn't care. At the very least, I'd expect he'd care about his reduced wages next season in the Championship.
Are people's reactions being weighted by Stan Collymore's comments about Bacuna's instagram from yesterday? I don't see what he'd done wrong, unless saying (to paraphrase) "try to take the positives from the negative stuff" is a bad thing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 09, 2016, 10:38:37 PM
He is the player I most dislike in this team (saying something). A piss poor central defender, trouble maker and a total gobshite in the media.

As disappointed as I am with Micah, kudos to him for speaking to those fans.

I certainly hate Bacuna far more, smiling away and not caring one shit about anything to do with our football club.

Some people react that way when they're nervous, stressed, under pressure or know that they've f##ked up.

It's called a nervous smile.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: bob on January 10, 2016, 01:26:12 AM
I don't respect him any more for speaking to those fans.

Their exchange is worth precisely the square root of fuck all.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 10, 2016, 01:30:02 AM
He is the player I most dislike in this team (saying something). A piss poor central defender, trouble maker and a total gobshite in the media.

As disappointed as I am with Micah, kudos to him for speaking to those fans.

I certainly hate Bacuna far more, smiling away and not caring one shit about anything to do with our football club.

Some people react that way when they're nervous, stressed, under pressure or know that they've f##ked up.

It's called a nervous smile.

I think Bacuna is smiling much of the time because it is his way of dealing with it. He works as hard as anyone, as ineffective as he may be.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: peter w on January 10, 2016, 01:35:58 AM
I like bacuna. he's not good enough for the Prem and it's 50/50 whether he is good enough for the Championship but you can see playing for us really means something to him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt C on January 10, 2016, 02:22:59 AM
I'd agree with that; it certainly doesn't look like he's not trying, he's just not very good - like a lot of them.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Hoppo on January 10, 2016, 02:53:27 AM
Bacuna is crap. Utility player because he is crap everywhere.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 10, 2016, 02:59:03 AM
The other day I watched the season review DVD for last season (well I do love me some horror!) surprised me how many of our goals Bacuna was involved in during our all too brief spell of playing well under Sherwood.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 10, 2016, 06:37:42 AM
Richards I believe is the person who is the main divider in the dressing room and if Garde had any balls that Captains armband would be taken off him in a nano second. Poisonous self indulging twat.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on January 10, 2016, 07:08:00 AM
Agree Kuwait. All the signs are, and have been since his encouragement of Delph to leave, that he is a massively disruptive influence.

All the social media twittering, the tunnel fighting, the Norwich shoveathon, the fan scrum by the dug out at Wycombe is a cover for his rabble rousing and refusal to follow instructions.  In the not so distant past he would be in the Bomb Squad.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: peter w on January 10, 2016, 08:09:08 AM
I too think he has been a force for no good and from thinking he was coup when signing, I welcome his departure.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: passport1 on January 10, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
If he genuinely cares perhaps as captain he could get the players to subsidise the travel and ticket costs of the away supporters for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 10, 2016, 09:26:47 AM
I dont want his money passport , I just want to see him shifted from the matchday squad and left to rot
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 10, 2016, 09:50:41 AM
Richards I believe is the person who is the main divider in the dressing room and if Garde had any balls that Captains armband would be taken off him in a nano second. Poisonous self indulging twat.

he cost us nothing so i would just fuck him off

no way is he captain material or defender material for that matter
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 10, 2016, 09:54:50 AM
totally agree fuck the fucker right off. The football equivalent of Liam G.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on January 10, 2016, 10:50:51 AM
Agree Kuwait. All the signs are, and have been since his encouragement of Delph to leave, that he is a massively disruptive influence.

All the social media twittering, the tunnel fighting, the Norwich shoveathon, the fan scrum by the dug out at Wycombe is a cover for his rabble rousing and refusal to follow instructions.  In the not so distant past he would be in the Bomb Squad.

Completely agree.  He's like a playground bully who uses his physical presence to make up for the fact that he's not very good at anything.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithe on January 10, 2016, 11:05:51 AM
But what about his positioning as a right back?

The exchange with the fans came before he was taken off.

Bravo Sir, bravo. In a sea of shite that's really made me laugh.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 10, 2016, 12:11:46 PM
The other thing about him is that because he's a "big name" there's excessive focus on him by the media. The entirety of MOTD's analysis was about him. Summary: he got forward a lot and scored a goal but didn't perform the defensive part of his role. Howevere he's Trevor Sinclair's mate so on that basis he will be a decent right back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: UK Redsox on January 10, 2016, 12:37:44 PM
Micah looked like he wanted to come off as soon as he'd scored. I was surprised that he stayed in there as long as he did.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 10, 2016, 01:49:23 PM
The picture caption of the exchange with supporters in the Observer today describes him as Captain Courageous. Captain Calamity would be more apt, imagine how bad things would be if the players couldn't be arsed and weren't putting in the effort.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Monty on January 10, 2016, 01:54:47 PM
Late to this one, but I was vaguely impressed. Obviously the players are trying - it's such a boring cliche to say they're not, as if everything in football is decided not by skill, or tactics, or teamwork, or luck, but just by 'trying hardest'. Everyone is trying in the sport with a few notable exceptions, and you can really really tell when they're not. The players have been unfit, they've played badly, they're mentally about as tough as snowflakes, they've been a bit unlucky sometimes and they've been let down by management decisions, but for the most part they've obviously been trying. They're just shit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: tomd2103 on January 10, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
The other thing about him is that because he's a "big name" there's excessive focus on him by the media. The entirety of MOTD's analysis was about him. Summary: he got forward a lot and scored a goal but didn't perform the defensive part of his role. Howevere he's Trevor Sinclair's mate so on that basis he will be a decent right back.

It was quite obvious that he didn't want to be at RB, so he basically went out and played his own game.  I lost count of the number of times in the first half he was in the opposition penalty box.  He got us a goal yesterday, but we would get torn apart by decent teams if he played like that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 10, 2016, 02:05:12 PM
Late to this one, but I was vaguely impressed. Obviously the players are trying - it's such a boring cliche to say they're not, as if everything in football is decided not by skill, or tactics, or teamwork, or luck, but just by 'trying hardest'. Everyone is trying in the sport with a few notable exceptions, and you can really really tell when they're not. The players have been unfit, they've played badly, they're mentally about as tough as snowflakes, they've been a bit unlucky sometimes and they've been let down by management decisions, but for the most part they've obviously been trying. They're just shit.

I thought Gestede was 'trying' to employ a drastic economy of effort. Why does Ayew currently stand out from the rest if they are all busting a gut?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Monty on January 10, 2016, 02:08:53 PM
Late to this one, but I was vaguely impressed. Obviously the players are trying - it's such a boring cliche to say they're not, as if everything in football is decided not by skill, or tactics, or teamwork, or luck, but just by 'trying hardest'. Everyone is trying in the sport with a few notable exceptions, and you can really really tell when they're not. The players have been unfit, they've played badly, they're mentally about as tough as snowflakes, they've been a bit unlucky sometimes and they've been let down by management decisions, but for the most part they've obviously been trying. They're just shit.

I thought Gestede was 'trying' to employ a drastic economy of effort. Why does Ayew currently stand out from the rest if they are all busting a gut?

Because he's better than them?

As for Gestede, he's still trying his utmost - it's just that he has the mobility of an arthritic giraffe.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 10, 2016, 02:22:11 PM
Late to this one, but I was vaguely impressed. Obviously the players are trying - it's such a boring cliche to say they're not, as if everything in football is decided not by skill, or tactics, or teamwork, or luck, but just by 'trying hardest'. Everyone is trying in the sport with a few notable exceptions, and you can really really tell when they're not. The players have been unfit, they've played badly, they're mentally about as tough as snowflakes, they've been a bit unlucky sometimes and they've been let down by management decisions, but for the most part they've obviously been trying. They're just shit.

I thought Gestede was 'trying' to employ a drastic economy of effort. Why does Ayew currently stand out from the rest if they are all busting a gut?

Because he's better than them?

As for Gestede, he's still trying his utmost - it's just that he has the mobility of an arthritic giraffe.

I am not just referencing Ayew's technical ability or professional effectiveness though Monty. His demeanour suggests to me a higher level of pride and desire. As for Gestede, those who played any part in his recruitment are most culpable.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Monty on January 10, 2016, 02:25:22 PM
I think that's just a style thing. Ayew is sprinting around a lot but he does get out of position a bit through following the ball. The others may look like they're not trying as hard, but perhaps they're just trying to stay in position more.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 10, 2016, 02:31:23 PM
Players like Gestede, Sinclair, Gana are all trying very hard. They are just awful players.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Jockey Randall on January 10, 2016, 02:33:20 PM
Late to this one, but I was vaguely impressed. Obviously the players are trying - it's such a boring cliche to say they're not, as if everything in football is decided not by skill, or tactics, or teamwork, or luck, but just by 'trying hardest'. Everyone is trying in the sport with a few notable exceptions, and you can really really tell when they're not. The players have been unfit, they've played badly, they're mentally about as tough as snowflakes, they've been a bit unlucky sometimes and they've been let down by management decisions, but for the most part they've obviously been trying. They're just shit.

Spot on. I find it puzzling when so many people in football point to a lack of effort in situations like this when surely after our performances over the last 3 or 4 years the most likely reason for our failure is just because we've got too many players who simply aren't good enough for the level they're at. You could hardly say we've seen enough from them previously to say that they've clearly got the ability locked away somewhere and they just can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 10, 2016, 02:37:29 PM
Late to this one, but I was vaguely impressed. Obviously the players are trying - it's such a boring cliche to say they're not, as if everything in football is decided not by skill, or tactics, or teamwork, or luck, but just by 'trying hardest'. Everyone is trying in the sport with a few notable exceptions, and you can really really tell when they're not. The players have been unfit, they've played badly, they're mentally about as tough as snowflakes, they've been a bit unlucky sometimes and they've been let down by management decisions, but for the most part they've obviously been trying. They're just shit.

Spot on. I find it puzzling when so many people in football point to a lack of effort in situations like this when surely after our performances over the last 3 or 4 years the most likely reason for our failure is just because we've got too many players who simply aren't good enough for the level they're at. You could hardly say we've seen enough from them previously to say that they've clearly got the ability locked away somewhere and they just can't be arsed.

There were a couple of instances yesterday where players were hiding from the ball when we were in possession. Looked like they were scared to take responsibility.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 10, 2016, 02:37:39 PM
I think that's just a style thing. Ayew is sprinting around a lot but he does get out of position a bit through following the ball. The others may look like they're not trying as hard, but perhaps they're just trying to stay in position more.

They're actually trying to stay in position? I might concede they are trying to stay in 20th position. If Bacuna and Gestede amongst others are giving the full 100% to the cause I'm Rembrandt.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on January 10, 2016, 02:43:29 PM

As for Gestede, he's still trying his utmost - it's just that he has the mobility of an arthritic giraffe.

Is he balls.  I can't remember who it was, but one of our players absolutely tore him a new one when he just lazily loped into the box, then just stopped as the ball came in.  He's crap, AND he's lazy.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on January 10, 2016, 03:05:44 PM

As for Gestede, he's still trying his utmost - it's just that he has the mobility of an arthritic giraffe.

Is he balls.  I can't remember who it was, but one of our players absolutely tore him a new one when he just lazily loped into the box, then just stopped as the ball came in.  He's crap, AND he's lazy.
I don't think Gestede is actually as bad as he has looked (bad I admit) I think his confidence is totally shot and we're not helping him with our style of play (style??) we're certainly not playing to his strengths. I think that has contributed to him being unable to do the simple/basic things.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: john e on January 10, 2016, 03:26:35 PM
I'd rather have Marlon  or Ivanhoe instead of Gestede, that's how crushingly bad he is
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 10, 2016, 03:29:01 PM
I'd rather have Marlon  or Ivanhoe instead of Gestede, that's how crushingly bad he is

Indeed for all the criticism of Heskey he at least put himself about, he was a completely different level to Gestede. Gestede is the least imposing 'targetman' I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Jockey Randall on January 10, 2016, 03:31:02 PM
Late to this one, but I was vaguely impressed. Obviously the players are trying - it's such a boring cliche to say they're not, as if everything in football is decided not by skill, or tactics, or teamwork, or luck, but just by 'trying hardest'. Everyone is trying in the sport with a few notable exceptions, and you can really really tell when they're not. The players have been unfit, they've played badly, they're mentally about as tough as snowflakes, they've been a bit unlucky sometimes and they've been let down by management decisions, but for the most part they've obviously been trying. They're just shit.

Spot on. I find it puzzling when so many people in football point to a lack of effort in situations like this when surely after our performances over the last 3 or 4 years the most likely reason for our failure is just because we've got too many players who simply aren't good enough for the level they're at. You could hardly say we've seen enough from them previously to say that they've clearly got the ability locked away somewhere and they just can't be arsed.

There were a couple of instances yesterday where players were hiding from the ball when we were in possession. Looked like they were scared to take responsibility.


I think that might be more to do with an individual's mentality rather than a blatent lack of effort. Everyone reacts differently to situations of adversity and obviously we have too many players who when their confidence is rock bottom start thinking 'I'm not good enough, I don't want the ball' when really we need a few more big characters who will back their ability regardless of how good they actually are.

More than anything though I can't really understand what a player would be looking to achieve with deliberately not trying? A move to a worse team on less wages? Especially doing it in full view of their colleagues, family, fans etc. I think the mental side of football is still massively overlooked and perhaps we should look a bit deeper in these situations rather than the usual 'he's lazy, he's not trying' line. A lot of the players aren't Premier League level in terms of footballing ability, but too many of them are also mentally weak as well imo.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 10, 2016, 03:50:17 PM

I'm sure it'd help a LOT if we had a leader/voice out on the pitch. As it is we have a collection of individuals with little communication or direction.

Giving Richards the armband is one thing, but that doesn't mean he's comfortable being the voice/leader, it doesn't come naturally to him clearly, and Lescott is the same.

That said, i've no idea how in our side it would come naturally to. But we need someone to do the talking out there ASAP
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: hipkiss92 on January 10, 2016, 03:53:28 PM

I'm sure it'd help a LOT if we had a leader/voice out on the pitch. As it is we have a collection of individuals with little communication or direction.

Giving Richards the armband is one thing, but that doesn't mean he's comfortable being the voice/leader, it doesn't come naturally to him clearly, and Lescott is the same.

That said, i've no idea how in our side it would come naturally to. But we need someone to do the talking out there ASAP

You only have to look at the side when they come out for the start of either half, when we concede a goal, or if there are breaks in play for injuries that there is no leadership in the team, no one to cajole the rest of the players to bounce back from a set-back. This is the biggest problem with the team, there's no leadership and no fight to drag the team through bad spells (albeit this bad spell has lasted between 20 games and five years, depending on how you look at it).
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 10, 2016, 06:39:54 PM
I'm torn on Richards. Sometimes I like him, sometimes I think he's a gobshite. I give him credit for going to the fans yesterday, knowing full well he'd get an earful.

Keep him at right back and get in a decent coaching team to ensure he's in a more cohesive backline. He needs to improve his awareness and concentration tenfold but beyond that I think he should be fine. He at least shows passion. That is something I do like about him. He's got the fire and vocals to be a captain, just not the consistency or temperament. But he's far and away the best option we have. Probably the only option. Lescott could be but he's just so done at this level it's not funny. Gabby has hopefully played his last game for the club.
We need to buy a decent skipper for one thing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on January 10, 2016, 06:46:51 PM
I'm torn on Richards. Sometimes I like him, sometimes I think he's a gobshite. I give him credit for going to the fans yesterday, knowing full well he'd get an earful.

Keep him at right back and get in a decent coaching team to ensure he's in a more cohesive backline. He needs to improve his awareness and concentration tenfold but beyond that I think he should be fine. He at least shows passion. That is something I do like about him. He's got the fire and vocals to be a captain, just not the consistency or temperament. But he's far and away the best option we have. Probably the only option. Lescott could be but he's just so done at this level it's not funny. Gabby has hopefully played his last game for the club.
We need to buy a decent skipper for one thing.

Richards attitude on the pitch is a joke, mighty Wycombe's best chances all came from him going walkabout

will help us create more on the right than Hutton though. Hutton is a crap defender too really
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 10, 2016, 07:06:32 PM
I'm torn on Richards. Sometimes I like him, sometimes I think he's a gobshite. I give him credit for going to the fans yesterday, knowing full well he'd get an earful.

Keep him at right back and get in a decent coaching team to ensure he's in a more cohesive backline. He needs to improve his awareness and concentration tenfold but beyond that I think he should be fine. He at least shows passion. That is something I do like about him. He's got the fire and vocals to be a captain, just not the consistency or temperament. But he's far and away the best option we have. Probably the only option. Lescott could be but he's just so done at this level it's not funny. Gabby has hopefully played his last game for the club.
We need to buy a decent skipper for one thing.

Richards attitude on the pitch is a joke, mighty Wycombe's best chances all came from him going walkabout

will help us create more on the right than Hutton though. Hutton is a crap defender too really

I don't think him going walkabout is necessarily his attitude, more the fact he's probably got shit for brains. He still plays like he's 18 years old and can't concentrate.

The sad part is, Richards and Hutton are probably two of the very few players here who have even a smidgen of character. They both should be vying for one position, and as you say, Hutton's a bit shit.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 10, 2016, 08:20:29 PM

I'm sure it'd help a LOT if we had a leader/voice out on the pitch. As it is we have a collection of individuals with little communication or direction.

Giving Richards the armband is one thing, but that doesn't mean he's comfortable being the voice/leader, it doesn't come naturally to him clearly, and Lescott is the same.

That said, i've no idea how in our side it would come naturally to. But we need someone to do the talking out there ASAP

You only have to look at the side when they come out for the start of either half, when we concede a goal, or if there are breaks in play for injuries that there is no leadership in the team, no one to cajole the rest of the players to bounce back from a set-back. This is the biggest problem with the team, there's no leadership and no fight to drag the team through bad spells (albeit this bad spell has lasted between 20 games and five years, depending on how you look at it).

No better example than the Watford game.
Get back level just before half time. Come out in second half and are completely on top. Then their keeper gets injured and we were never in it again. The whole team switched off during those 9 minutes.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 10, 2016, 09:23:26 PM
Seems Lescott and Guzan were swearing at fans behind dugout and promoted clash with Richards.

Admittedly it's Nursey who runs the story, but not good to hear.

I think the atmosphere behind the scenes is even more toxic than anyone realises.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on January 10, 2016, 09:29:01 PM
Seems Lescott and Guzan were swearing at fans behind dugout and promoted clash with Richards.

Admittedly it's Nursey who runs the story, but not good to hear.

I think the atmosphere behind the scenes is even more toxic than anyone realises.

This was posted earlier on FB by a fan who was at the game .

The Papers are portraying that it was fans being upset over the performance when it was in fact down to 2 senior players messing around on the bench clearly in view trying to see which one can spit there chewing gum the closest to the touch line and laughing with no interest in the game.

Lescott & Guzan who are supposed to be so called senior players were approached by a fan who knocked the dug out and they both told him to F**K Off

IT WAS THEN RICHARDS came out to talk to the fan and others that then gathered.

For me get rid of the lot and let's have a go with players who are proud to wear the shirt!!!!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 10, 2016, 09:39:18 PM
It isn't right though that the fan comes down to the dugout. And I bet he didn't just knock on it politely and ask if they wanted to join him for a cuppa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LTA on January 10, 2016, 09:42:37 PM
Pretty obvious now there's state of civil war between the club and the fans. 

I can't believe how toxic a club we have become.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Jimbo on January 10, 2016, 09:53:19 PM
When things really fall apart, I happens fast.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 10, 2016, 10:28:47 PM
And it's what happens when things are papered over and the majority of the communication with the fans is complete bullshit or sales patter. You can only insult peoples intelligence for so long before they think fuck it, I've had enough.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on January 10, 2016, 10:33:11 PM
And it's what happens when things are papered over and the majority of the communication with the fans is complete bullshit or sales patter. You can only insult peoples intelligence for so long before they think fuck it, I've had enough.

Good point. That time is now. I hope we don't lose against Palace or else. Leicester on the box next week could be even worse.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 11, 2016, 05:19:47 AM
the probability is that we'll loose both given our record this season and I'm more than a little surprised that fans' frustration has taken this long to really start to manifest itself
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 11, 2016, 05:46:49 AM
Diablo I think you may have a very valid point there, I see in Gestede a player who is totally shot of confidence, a player who is not sure what his role in the team is supposed to be, his team mates are wary of involving him as his first touch is awful, he is afraid to try anything apart from the bare basics, but and there is always a but , if that is the case and we can see it, why can't the manager.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ad@m on January 11, 2016, 06:21:38 AM
Not sure if it's already been posted but at the other end of the fan interaction scale Jonjo Shelvey offered one of the Swansea fans to have a chat with him in the car park after the game. Bring reported by the Mirror but I can't link the story on my phone for some reason.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Oscar Arce on January 11, 2016, 03:38:58 PM
Whatever you think of him as a player, and I personally think he is poor with no positional sense and no concentration, you have to admire him for putting his neck on the line and talking to those guys like that. There is a cancer in our club that will get even worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on January 11, 2016, 04:01:50 PM
Whatever you think of him as a player, and I personally think he is poor with no positional sense and no concentration, you have to admire him for putting his neck on the line and talking to those guys like that. There is a cancer in our club that will get even worse before it gets better.

I don't admire him for it at all. As he has shown lots lately, he just loves mouthing off. I'd have had some respect for him if he'd used his position as captain to tell that pair of twats Guzan and Lescott to grow up.

I can't think of a time in my life, where almost to a man, I despise each and every player.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 11, 2016, 04:52:38 PM
And that's one of the reasons the fans have turned Risso, there's no one left at the club that the fans have any good memories of or goodwill towards. There's no link from the team to the support. No leader we rally behind, no Striker who's scored memorable goals that won us important matches, no Defender who's put his head on the line and kept the opposition at bay. They're either nobodies like the Westwoods and Richardsons we have or goons like Gabby, Nzog, Bacuna.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 11, 2016, 05:54:50 PM
Whatever you think of him as a player, and I personally think he is poor with no positional sense and no concentration, you have to admire him for putting his neck on the line and talking to those guys like that. There is a cancer in our club that will get even worse before it gets better.

I don't admire him for it at all. As he has shown lots lately, he just loves mouthing off. I'd have had some respect for him if he'd used his position as captain to tell that pair of twats Guzan and Lescott to grow up.

I can't think of a time in my life, where almost to a man, I despise each and every player.

This. As captain, he should spend more time using that gob of his ON the pitch, sending a rocket up Bacuna's ass where he misplaces 'another' pass or doesn't track his man, or screaming at Westwood for bottling 'another' challenge, or Gestede for basically just being Gestede.

Yes, I suppose it's good that he's not shying away from the abuse.... but for Christ's sake, we'd be better off if he (and the rest of em) did their talking on the pitch.
The only players worth their salt in Villa shirts at the moment are the 2 Jordans (would probably be 3 if Amavi wasn't injured) and Carles Gill. The rest of them can do one.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CJ on January 11, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Central News have picked up on the story now so presumably the club will have to make a statement and hopefully take action against Guzan and Lescott
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 11, 2016, 07:19:05 PM
Central News have picked up on the story now so presumably the club will have to make a statement and hopefully take action against Guzan and Lescott

selling the to some mugs another team would be a good start
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LukeJames on January 11, 2016, 10:39:53 PM
Central News have picked up on the story now so presumably the club will have to make a statement and hopefully take action against Guzan and Lescott
I've just caught this on the late edition of central news, its pissed me off that they're making Richards out to be some sort of hero thats approached some neandothol fans, the fans, especially the main bloke that was talking came across as well spoken and calm and was asking a sensible question in the circumstances, if anything the fans side of it should be whats reported on.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 12, 2016, 05:17:49 PM
Central News have picked up on the story now so presumably the club will have to make a statement and hopefully take action against Guzan and Lescott
Guzan has to go ASAP. He's a complete liability and if he's gonna start being a piss-take merchant like some of the others I'd sooner put Bunn in goal.

If Steer is out on loan it might be worth recalling him if we can.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on January 12, 2016, 05:21:03 PM
I would prefer the midget.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 12, 2016, 09:37:14 PM
That's good from Richards at the end of the game, he looks delighted.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 12, 2016, 09:59:53 PM
That's good from Richards at the end of the game, he looks delighted.

I saw that too. There were a lot from the bench that looked the same.

There was someone, I think Sinclair, that looked like he'd been told he got to wash Chamakh's hair with his tongue. And the hair gel he'd got to get rid of was as promoted in There's Something About Mary.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on January 12, 2016, 11:27:10 PM
Diablo I think you may have a very valid point there, I see in Gestede a player who is totally shot of confidence, a player who is not sure what his role in the team is supposed to be, his team mates are wary of involving him as his first touch is awful, he is afraid to try anything apart from the bare basics, but and there is always a but , if that is the case and we can see it, why can't the manager.
I think Remi could and quite rightly took Gestede out of the firing line today which paid dividends (as he said we need 11 players at 100% to get a win). Hopefully Gestede will return to the first team all the better for a break and hopefully some rebuilt confidence (and possibly into a team that doesn't have major difficulty remembering its last win).
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villafirst on January 13, 2016, 07:13:22 PM
I'd still put Richards in ahead of Bacuna at RB against Leicester. A back line of Richards, Okore, Lescott & Cissokho looks really strong to me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 13, 2016, 08:38:57 PM
And Bacuna ahead of Westwood in midfield. I imagine Richards wasn't played because of the injury he picked up at the weekend. Either way, and fair play to him, he looked absolutely delighted for the other players.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 21, 2016, 11:40:46 PM
I see Richards has deleted all his tweets about giving it all for the rest of the season! Yes Micah, what's it been like... 3 weeks? Leave the one of the two fools doing some shit dance on a hoverboard up though. ::)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 22, 2016, 08:50:34 AM
Whilst he always looks like a good player, the team seems to do better when isn't playing. I'd leave him on the bench and stick with Lescott and Okore.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
Whilst he always looks like a good player, the team seems to do better when isn't playing. I'd leave him on the bench and stick with Lescott and Okore.

Me too.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: AVH87 on January 22, 2016, 10:12:14 AM
Either plays Right Back or not at all for me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 22, 2016, 10:34:25 AM
I see Richards has deleted all his tweets about giving it all for the rest of the season! Yes Micah, what's it been like... 3 weeks? Leave the one of the two fools doing some shit dance on a hoverboard up though. ::)

Is he off?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 22, 2016, 11:06:42 AM
I see Richards has deleted all his tweets about giving it all for the rest of the season! Yes Micah, what's it been like... 3 weeks? Leave the one of the two fools doing some shit dance on a hoverboard up though. ::)

Is he off?

If we got a fee for him I'd take it. Bad influence.

Replace him with a loan till the end of the season, or promote Senderos back into the squad (better centre half anyway).

If we drop we have Baker to come back, who has done well in the championship this season, and Still have Clark, Okore and Lescott who would all be in the top 10% at Championship level. if we stay up then we can replace with a better player.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mattjpa on January 22, 2016, 11:19:34 AM
I see Richards has deleted all his tweets about giving it all for the rest of the season! Yes Micah, what's it been like... 3 weeks? Leave the one of the two fools doing some shit dance on a hoverboard up though. ::)

Is he off?

If we got a fee for him I'd take it. Bad influence.

Replace him with a loan till the end of the season, or promote Senderos back into the squad (better centre half anyway).

If we drop we have Baker to come back, who has done well in the championship this season, and Still have Clark, Okore and Lescott who would all be in the top 10% at Championship level. if we stay up then we can replace with a better player.

What possible reasoning have you got to back up he is a bad influence? From what ive seen he has been quite a positive influence, hence why he was made captain. The problem with him is he probably isnt a good enough player to back it up. Physically impervious, he has only cost us points through rushes of blood to the head and lack of positional discipline. If anything, some of his mistakes have been from trying too hard to compensate for others and ultimately not doing his own job.

I dont know whether he is too far gone to have it drilled into him but a CB needs to be focussed and disciplned for the whole match. Thats why, as others above have said, I think he needs moving back to RB. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 22, 2016, 11:21:56 AM
I got the feeling he was made Captain as a promise from Dim to convince him to sign. Nothing he's done so far has shown him as good captain material.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 22, 2016, 11:23:04 AM
What possible reasoning have you got to back up he is a bad influence? From what ive seen he has been quite a positive influence, hence why he was made captain. The problem with him is he probably isnt a good enough player to back it up. Physically impervious, he has only cost us points through rushes of blood to the head and lack of positional discipline. If anything, some of his mistakes have been from trying too hard to compensate for others and ultimately not doing his own job.

I dont know whether he is too far gone to have it drilled into him but a CB needs to be focussed and disciplned for the whole match. Thats why, as others above have said, I think he needs moving back to RB. 

Never out of the press, usually spouting bollocks. He had barely been at the club a week before he was recommending to our best midfielder (Delph) that he join Man City. When Sherwood got the boot he was widely quoted as blaming the foreign signings.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 22, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
has he improved the defence? no
is he captain material? no
does he keep spouting bollocks? yes

never mind getting a fee for him, he cost us nothing and thats what i would let him go for
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 22, 2016, 08:31:04 PM
he's another fucker who ought to be fucked right off fucking quick
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Bad English on January 23, 2016, 05:13:12 PM
If I were Garde, I would do unto Richards as he has done unto Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia. We are down, why persist with that half-arsed waste of a shirt?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ger Regan on January 23, 2016, 05:18:19 PM
Agreed. He plays for himself and nobody else.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on January 23, 2016, 05:21:47 PM
A fuckwit without portfolio.  Cheers, Timah.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on January 23, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
As I have said before, poor Centre Back, poor Right Back, not Captain material
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 23, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
Crap player, summer time bye bye hopefully.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 23, 2016, 06:27:07 PM
theres still time for him to fuck off this window

fingers crossed
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on January 23, 2016, 06:43:35 PM
He seems as though he is another player that does not want to put the hard work in.  He looked as though he wanted to just stroll around all afternoon.  I had no problems with his defensive display today but a fullback needs to be more than that.  Considering how he used to play at fullback at Man City, he can do it but looks like he can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 23, 2016, 11:58:54 PM
Some how for all his pluses in the  game, he is always one step away for a "switch off" and a sending off. 

Plenty of players of this ilke have played in the top division but not for long.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT Villan on January 24, 2016, 04:13:12 PM
I thought he did well in the aerial challenges, but was crap with the ball at his feet or when trying to move off-the-ball...and he could easily have seen red.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 24, 2016, 05:45:51 PM
He seems as though he is another player that does not want to put the hard work in.  He looked as though he wanted to just stroll around all afternoon.  I had no problems with his defensive display today but a fullback needs to be more than that.  Considering how he used to play at fullback at Man City, he can do it but looks like he can't be arsed.

Thank you. That saved me writing exactly the same words!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 24, 2016, 08:21:26 PM
He just looks like he has reached an age where he cannot be arsed to run anymore.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on January 25, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
He looked to me on Saturday like he knew his days were numbered, was willing to do the job asked of him but lacked the application because his heart isn't in it anymore.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: UK Redsox on January 25, 2016, 02:58:44 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on January 25, 2016, 03:22:07 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on January 25, 2016, 03:26:50 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.

Ah, Patpong ping pong.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 25, 2016, 03:48:27 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.

I think I might then
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: chrisw1 on January 25, 2016, 03:54:10 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.

I think I might then
Yep.  I'd be sky+ing that one.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on January 25, 2016, 04:03:14 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.

I think I might then
Yep.  I'd be sky+ing that one.

I'd wait for the Youtube clip.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 25, 2016, 04:04:43 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.

I think I might then
Yep.  I'd be sky+ing that one.

Yes, let's not be hasty. I'd record it and fast-forward through Corden.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: chrisw1 on January 25, 2016, 04:12:18 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.

I think I might then
Yep.  I'd be sky+ing that one.

I'd wait for the Youtube clip.

I'd want full HD on this to be honest.  Maybe even borrow a mates 3D TV.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: nodge on January 25, 2016, 04:23:13 PM
Last week flicking through the channels and that came on.  Corden , Whitehall, Redknapp, Flintoff and Ashley Cole, a bigger bunch of twats you'd struggle to find.  I'd have put my foot through the telly if it wasn't mine. Cue endless hilarious jokes from Whitehall about what Cole would do for money.  I say endless, for the 10 minutes I could stomach it it was.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: chrisw1 on January 25, 2016, 04:29:33 PM
Last week flicking through the channels and that came on.  Corden , Whitehall, Redknapp, Flintoff and Ashley Cole, a bigger bunch of twats you'd struggle to find.  I'd have put my foot through the telly if it wasn't mine. Cue endless hilarious jokes from Whitehall about what Cole would do for money.  I say endless, for the 10 minutes I could stomach it it was.

but would it have been improved by some Knightley vs Minogue ping pong?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on January 25, 2016, 04:45:24 PM
Last week flicking through the channels and that came on.  Corden , Whitehall, Redknapp, Flintoff and Ashley Cole, a bigger bunch of twats you'd struggle to find.  I'd have put my foot through the telly if it wasn't mine. Cue endless hilarious jokes from Whitehall about what Cole would do for money.  I say endless, for the 10 minutes I could stomach it it was.

but would it have been improved by some Knightley vs Minogue ping pong?

Now that's moving the goalposts a bit, nobody had factored Minogue in. That's a game changer.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 25, 2016, 04:47:58 PM
Last week flicking through the channels and that came on.  Corden , Whitehall, Redknapp, Flintoff and Ashley Cole, a bigger bunch of twats you'd struggle to find.  I'd have put my foot through the telly if it wasn't mine. Cue endless hilarious jokes from Whitehall about what Cole would do for money.  I say endless, for the 10 minutes I could stomach it it was.

but would it have been improved by some Knightley vs Minogue ping pong?

Now that's moving the goalposts a bit, nobody had factored Minogue in. That's a game changer.
I don't think there's a ping-pongonging punani on the planet that could make Whitehall bearable to watch.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on January 25, 2016, 05:32:00 PM
Micah is on A League of their Own this week.

I've never watched the programme. Is it worth tuning in just to see Villa's on-field captain ?

Doesn't that have James Corden on it? If so, I wouldn't watch it if Keira Nightly had promised to fire ping pong balls from her snatch live on air.

I think I might then
Yep.  I'd be sky+ing that one.

I'd wait for the Youtube clip.

I'd want full HD on this to be honest.  Maybe even borrow a mates 3D TV.

What channel is this on?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ger Regan on January 26, 2016, 01:56:01 PM
Not the greatest review, truth be told (http://www.balls.ie/football/why-a-league-of-their-own-is-a-load-of-insufferable-nonsense/322237)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 26, 2016, 02:25:35 PM
I think it's about right though. Whitehall is by a distance one of the most annoying people on TV. How he is with the lovely Gemma Chan from humans is beyond my understanding.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 26, 2016, 02:32:03 PM
Am I the only hot blooded male who doesn't find Kylie Minogue in the slightest bit attractive. She's got a fucking terrible singing voice as well.

Think I've just done the equivalent of drowning a sack of puppies.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 26, 2016, 02:32:10 PM
Has anyone else been laughing at "Flintoff: Lord of the Fries" on Sky. Freddie tours Britain in a mobile fish and chip van. One of those series where someone obviously thought of the title first ( a Partridge fan, probably) and built the show around it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on January 26, 2016, 03:13:45 PM
Not the greatest review, truth be told (http://www.balls.ie/football/why-a-league-of-their-own-is-a-load-of-insufferable-nonsense/322237)
Loved this line: "On the face of it, it seems as if it has no idea of how wholesomely dire it is, displaying about as much self-awareness as Nicklas Bendtner."
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: peter w on January 26, 2016, 03:31:59 PM
Am I the only hot blooded male who doesn't find Kylie Minogue in the slightest bit attractive. She's got a fucking terrible singing voice as well.

Think I've just done the equivalent of drowning a sack of puppies.

I've never got it either. Her "dimunitive" figure and constant views of her backside just make me feel like a paedophile. Pretty enough but nothing else.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: serbentoflight on January 26, 2016, 03:47:05 PM
If Kylie signed for the Villa, I'd renew my season ticket.  And she might score more than our strikers.  Lets sign her up
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Risso on January 26, 2016, 03:59:48 PM
Am I the only hot blooded male who doesn't find Kylie Minogue in the slightest bit attractive. She's got a fucking terrible singing voice as well.

Think I've just done the equivalent of drowning a sack of puppies.

I've never got it either. Her "dimunitive" figure and constant views of her backside just make me feel like a paedophile. Pretty enough but nothing else.

She's more attractive than Keira Knightly though, who has all the feminine charm of the gardening tools section of B&Q.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: itbrvilla on January 26, 2016, 05:59:36 PM
Fuck him off
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Bad English on January 26, 2016, 06:43:32 PM
Am I the only hot blooded male who doesn't find Kylie Minogue in the slightest bit attractive. She's got a fucking terrible singing voice as well.

Think I've just done the equivalent of drowning a sack of puppies.

I've never got it either. Her "dimunitive" figure and constant views of her backside just make me feel like a paedophile. Pretty enough but nothing else.

She's more attractive than Keira Knightly though, who has all the feminine charm of the gardening tools section of B&Q.
But would you or not?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 26, 2016, 07:12:11 PM
Kylie is lovely! Take her over knightly any day.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villan For Life on January 26, 2016, 07:17:29 PM
I much prefer Keira to Kylie. I always thought Danni was the better looking Minogue sister.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on January 26, 2016, 07:35:28 PM
I'd quite like to be the filling in a Minogue sandwich tbh , or is that being greedy?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on January 26, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
I much prefer Keira to Kylie. I always thought Danni was the better looking Minogue sister.

Totally agree with this. Danni is fecking lovely. I used to fancy that Natalie Imbruglia until she puffed her face and lips up too. Saying that, Charlize will do for me.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 30, 2016, 05:13:48 PM
His performance today was summed up perfectly by Ozzjim who said "Richards is about as bothered about playing for Villa as I am for Blues".

I can only guess he's heard about us signing Debuchy on loan and knows he won't be playing for us again. I'm praying he never wears the Villa shirt again. The man's an utter disgrace to the club and himself.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 30, 2016, 05:15:27 PM
I thought he'd be a good signing, I've found myself really disliking him very quickly.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 30, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
My disliking him has now moved on to hate, Chris. I can put up with players that lack ability but players that don't give a shit really annoy the fuck out of me. I'm not sure he even has the ability but one thing is for sure, he's completely taking the piss.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 30, 2016, 05:19:48 PM
Am I the only hot blooded male who doesn't find Kylie Minogue in the slightest bit attractive. She's got a fucking terrible singing voice as well.

Think I've just done the equivalent of drowning a sack of puppies.

I've never got it either. Her "dimunitive" figure and constant views of her backside just make me feel like a paedophile. Pretty enough but nothing else.

She's more attractive than Keira Knightly though, who has all the feminine charm of the gardening tools section of B&Q.

I've seen more contours on a sheet of glass. She's as skinny as a rake too, so your gardening tools analogy is appropriate. Kylie all day

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: SamTheMouse on January 30, 2016, 05:20:54 PM
Off-topic: Kylie is fucking amazing, and I invite all of you to fight me outside!

Back on-topic: Micah Richards is a useless moron. I bet he doesn't fancy Kylie either.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: myf on January 30, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
He'll be in the papers tomorrow spotted drinking in Manchester with the snake
Title: Re: Micah Richards
Post by: brontebilly on January 30, 2016, 05:34:20 PM
Awful signing, another injury prone has been at the back who gave up playing the game seriously a few years ago. Fits in nicely with the likes of Cole and Senderos.

Im counting this as a winner, although he hasnt missed many game through injury

Got Gestede spectacularly wrong though, thought he would be decent for us
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 30, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
My disliking him has now moved on to hate, Chris. I can put up with players that lack ability but players that don't give a shit really annoy the fuck out of me. I'm not sure he even has the ability but one thing is for sure, he's completely taking the piss.

Hate is probably the word I should have used to be honest!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 30, 2016, 05:36:08 PM
It won't shock me at all to see Richards sold in the summer. He's not the player we all hoped he could be again and critically not remotely the leader we needed him to be.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: curiousorange on January 30, 2016, 05:37:53 PM
But he spoke to the fans, so that's okay.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT Villan on January 30, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
N'Zogbia > Richards
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ger Regan on January 30, 2016, 05:47:17 PM
I truly loath him. Most of the time it's as if he thinks he's playing 5-a-side with his mates.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on January 30, 2016, 05:47:26 PM
This man is not fit to replicate the work of Dennis Mortimer, Kevin Richardson, Andy Townsend, Allan Evans, etc. All of whom wore the armband with honesty and pride. You sir, are a cheat. Your barely fit to wear the shirt never mind the armband.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 30, 2016, 05:48:34 PM
It won't shock me at all to see Richards sold in the summer.

We'll no doubt end up having to pay him compensation as he takes a drop in salary at his next victims.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 30, 2016, 05:49:59 PM
It won't shock me at all to see Richards sold in the summer.

We'll no doubt end up having to pay him compensation as he takes a drop in salary at his next victims.

hopefully he'll think better of it that stay with us on his relegation clause affected pay.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
Like many of us I thought he could be a decent signing, but he's been wank.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ger Regan on January 30, 2016, 05:54:34 PM
This man is not fit to replicate the work of Dennis Mortimer, Kevin Richardson, Andy Townsend, Allan Evans, etc. All of whom wore the armband with honesty and pride. You sir, are a cheat. Your barely fit to wear the shirt never mind the armband.
He hasn't got a drop of the integrity of someone like Petrov, either.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 30, 2016, 05:56:33 PM
I was criticised for calling him a poseur.
Any one disagree with this now?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 30, 2016, 06:05:21 PM
It won't shock me at all to see Richards sold in the summer. He's not the player we all hoped he could be again and critically not remotely the leader we needed him to be.
I hope he is but I can see another addition to our famous bomb squad.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 30, 2016, 06:06:14 PM
I was criticised for calling him a poseur.
Any one disagree with this now?

Yeah! He's not a poseur, he's a gutless, money grabbing, pathetic excuse for a footballer, lazy, pointless twat.

There were times in the 2nd half today when I'm sure his objective was to get as close to the Man City fans as possible so he could hear them singing his name, regardless of what was happening on the pitch.

I'm really struggling to remember a Villa player show such a lack of interest in a game. I even think Hodge showed more interest in that infamous Norwich game. All the talk about moving him to right back - Hutton's ten times the player and 100 times the man Richards is. An absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT Villan on January 30, 2016, 06:08:30 PM
hopefully he'll think better of it that stay with us on his relegation clause affected pay.

If he can't be bothered to turn it on for the Premier League stage, I think he'll be even less interested in the Championship. I would sell him (now if possible !)
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 30, 2016, 06:09:16 PM
I was criticised for calling him a poseur.
Any one disagree with this now?

Yeah! He's not a poseur, he's a gutless, money grabbing, pathetic excuse for a footballer, lazy, pointless twat.

There were times in the 2nd half today when I'm sure his objective was to get as close to the Man City fans as possible so he could hear them singing his name, regardless of what was happening on the pitch.

I'm really struggling to remember a Villa player show such a lack of interest in a game. I even think Hodge showed more interest in that infamous Norwich game. All the talk about moving him to right back - Hutton's ten times the player and 100 times the man Richards is. An absolute disgrace.
OK, got that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 30, 2016, 06:12:29 PM
I just know he thinks he's doing us a favour being here....
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: A|C on January 30, 2016, 06:34:05 PM
He's an utter fuckwit, how he is captain I have no idea.  A disgrace to the club, I truly detest this man.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on January 30, 2016, 06:37:43 PM
I have to say, when we signed him I thought it was the beginning of our new dawn. A player who was used to being a winner - I thought it was an excellent signing.

As we stand now, I'll be happy if he leaves in the next two days or at least never plays for us again.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 30, 2016, 06:40:35 PM
I have to say, when we signed him I thought it was the beginning of our new dawn. A player who was used to being a winner - I thought it was an excellent signing.

As we stand now, I'll be happy if he leaves in the next two days or at least never plays for us again.

Agreed
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 30, 2016, 06:43:43 PM
I have to say, when we signed him I thought it was the beginning of our new dawn. A player who was used to being a winner - I thought it was an excellent signing.

As we stand now, I'll be happy if he leaves in the next two days or at least never plays for us again.

I think we all looked at the good points, the fact he looked good when Man City won the league and he seemed vocal and over looked the now obvious bad points, that he hasn't really played much football since 2011/12.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 30, 2016, 06:50:08 PM
Even at RB he is incompetent of doing his job in the most basic form properly, get rid.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: myf on January 30, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
Didnt he score against us under DOL in the cup on his debut in the dying minutes?  Had bad vibes about him ever since
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2016, 07:43:11 PM
Didnt he score against us under DOL in the cup on his debut in the dying minutes?  Had bad vibes about him ever since

Yep, 5th round to force a replay at their place. There was only about 23K there that day as well.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy65 on January 30, 2016, 07:45:51 PM
Didnt he score against us under DOL in the cup on his debut in the dying minutes?  Had bad vibes about him ever since

Yep, 5th round to force a replay at their place. There was only about 23K there that day as well.

And then swore on a live after match interview....
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ads on January 30, 2016, 08:06:33 PM
I wouldn't be bothered if he went without us getting a fee for him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 30, 2016, 08:08:58 PM
I just know he thinks he's doing us a favour being here....

That is a very good assesment
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 30, 2016, 08:12:59 PM
He's not the brightest tool in the box! 

What pisses me off most about him is the fact that he has a personal crusade against one of the opposition every game.  Instead of winning a personal  battle of football with his opponent we have all the Joey Barton attributes  - he is a car crash.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on January 30, 2016, 08:43:15 PM
Doesn't it just sum up the malaise at the club that the 2 club captains for the last 3 years have been Gabby and Richards. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on January 30, 2016, 08:50:02 PM
Even at RB he is incompetent of doing his job in the most basic form properly, get rid.

Agree with your second point but not the first. I just don't think he is putting any effort in.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 30, 2016, 08:54:54 PM
He's not the brightest tool in the box! 

What pisses me off most about him is the fact that he has a personal crusade against one of the opposition every game.  Instead of winning a personal  battle of football with his opponent we have all the Joey Barton attributes  - he is a car crash.

I see it more as a fraudulent deception to make you think he's been in the game and he cares.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 30, 2016, 09:04:53 PM
The Swansea match summed him up, he was more interested in continuing a bit of push and shove in the Swansea box after a corner than getting back to help his team out. No doubt some thought he was showing a bit of 'passion' at the time, I just thought he was being a duck and very unprofessional. Seems he continued it after the final whistle too.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on January 30, 2016, 09:07:56 PM
So let's get this right;

We signed him and the very first thing he does is sell his old club to our club captain and arguably most influential player resulting in him leaving,

He then becomes a divisive force in the dressing room tweeting about the work rate and ability of our new signing (who turn out to be our best players),

The are rumours (that's all) that he refuses to play RB for at least the first half of the season,

His performances have been woefully inadequate when he's played and the side look much better without him in it.

He's most probably one of our highest earners at the club.

He has in part Captained us to our worst league performance in nearly 30 years.

If we do no other business, this bloke and N'Zog would be the first out the door this week for me, absolute cancers in the club. 




Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 30, 2016, 09:45:01 PM
He's an utter fuckwit, how he is captain I have no idea.  A disgrace to the club, I truly detest this man.

Better ask Nice but Tim about the deal behind Mickey taking Richards' arrival.

I think he's still sulking about Tim's departure.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: David_Nab on January 30, 2016, 11:28:19 PM
Like Gabby his physical attributes have got him to this level but mentally he ,especially at CB is not prem standard.

How a player who barely played for 3 years came in as our first choice CB  ( a position he has never regularly played ) on a huge contract and was made captain is beyond belief.Arrogance on Tims behalf in that IMO he wanted to prove English talent was better and he could nurture him into a England player again ....

Like Gabby once his pace goes he will be utterly useless
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 30, 2016, 11:40:38 PM
Like others thought on paper at least and on a free transfer he was a very decent signing and certainly an upgrade in defence.

But he has turned out to be a total disaster and every time he comes back into the team with the exception of a league 2 side we have looked absolutely feckin woeful in defence.  It cannot be a coincidence so I wouldn't play him as first choice again.  Let him go and get a job at Notcutts as their Santa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Fasth56 on January 30, 2016, 11:46:59 PM
Couldn't believe the space he had on the right hand side in the second half, he had more than I had in the top of the Holte, but every time he received the ball instead of bombing forward he played the ball back, when we lost the ball he ambles back towards our defence. He shirks all responsibility and doesn't help out team mates, a complete disaster on all accounts.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 31, 2016, 01:58:04 AM
It won't shock me at all to see Richards sold in the summer. He's not the player we all hoped he could be again and critically not remotely the leader we needed him to be.

I could never work out why anybody thought he would be good for us. He has never been a centre half and has been out of regular football for a few years now.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 31, 2016, 02:00:01 AM
Couldn't believe the space he had on the right hand side in the second half, he had more than I had in the top of the Holte, but every time he received the ball instead of bombing forward he played the ball back, when we lost the ball he ambles back towards our defence. He shirks all responsibility and doesn't help out team mates, a complete disaster on all accounts.

He was like that at right back last week.

If Debuchy signing means we see a back 5 of Bunn, Debuchy, Okore, Lescott, Cissokho until the last ball is kicked, then happy days.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 31, 2016, 06:46:51 AM
Him and CNZ are all that is rotten about modern day prem football, it says more about us than him, that we have on a consistent basis allowed this sort of player to ever pull on the shirt of Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on January 31, 2016, 07:18:24 AM
Him and CNZ are all that is rotten about modern day prem football, it says more about us than him, that we have on a consistent basis allowed this sort of player to ever pull on the shirt of Aston Villa.

I don't think that's a comparison that can be made. Richards is a poor footballer but his attitude cannot be questioned, whereas CNZ is just a mercenary who has no interest in playing football and is happy to milk the club dry.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 31, 2016, 07:29:57 AM
Richards is so far up his own arse, his dentists is a gynecologist and I would also ask you to think back, did CNZ cause this sort of disruption after such a short time at the club, the answer was no.
Richards has had far to much influence from day one, he is a billy big bollocks and I am a 100% sure that if no one wants him come the end of the season, we will again be stuck with a high earning parasite.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on January 31, 2016, 08:45:46 AM
We'd only reported back from training one week before Richards started tweeting about how great it was at Citeh and then started selling them to our club captain.  In their rightful fury at Snake many forgot about Richards role in that, turns out it was just par for the course.

We have to start to make a stand against this sort of rubbish, Berger did it with Barry regards the Redscouse and he was awarded a new contract, Richards did it with Delph and he was awarded the Capataincy. FFS Villa.

Fuck him off, he's shit.



Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ROBBO on January 31, 2016, 09:13:06 AM
 If Debuchy signs it gives us another few months to find a right back for next season and Garde will ditch Richards
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2016, 09:15:48 AM
We'd only reported back from training one week before Richards started tweeting about how great it was at Citeh and then started selling them to our club captain.  In their rightful fury at Snake many forgot about Richards role in that, turns out it was just par for the course.

We have to start to make a stand against this sort of rubbish, Berger did it with Barry regards the Redscouse and he was awarded a new contract, Richards did it with Delph and he was awarded the Capataincy. FFS Villa.

Fuck him off, he's shit.

Berger wasn't awarded a new contract after the Barry stuff. He had a one year extension at the end of 2007. 2008 was the Barry stuff, his contract expired that summer and he went back to Prague.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: claret and blue blood on January 31, 2016, 09:23:18 AM
O'Neil slated Berger for that and kicked him out, love or loathe MON he didn't let players rule the roost.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on January 31, 2016, 09:38:11 AM
Happy to stand corrected on the timeline re Berger but the point remains.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on January 31, 2016, 09:42:59 AM
Richards can fuck off

And take (for varying reasons) CNZ, Gabby, Sinclair, Guzan, Clark, Richardson, Westwood and that may not be the end of it.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on January 31, 2016, 09:47:22 AM
Him and CNZ are all that is rotten about modern day prem football, it says more about us than him, that we have on a consistent basis allowed this sort of player to ever pull on the shirt of Aston Villa.

I don't think that's a comparison that can be made. Richards is a poor footballer but his attitude cannot be questioned, whereas CNZ is just a mercenary who has no interest in playing football and is happy to milk the club dry.

Richards attitude is a disgrace imo
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 31, 2016, 08:44:58 PM
Like Gabby his physical attributes have got him to this level but mentally he ,especially at CB is not prem standard.

How a player who barely played for 3 years came in as our first choice CB  ( a position he has never regularly played ) on a huge contract and was made captain is beyond belief.Arrogance on Tims behalf in that IMO he wanted to prove English talent was better and he could nurture him into a England player again ....

Like Gabby once his pace goes he will be utterly useless

At least Gabby waited until his pace had gone before turning into a completely useless squad member.

Richards to me is blatantly sulking when he's playing at right back and blatantly shit when playing centre back.

There's a reason why he got no game time in Italy when they switched to 352.  Not trusted as centre back and not good enough going forward to play wing back.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 31, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
I was hoping we would get rid during January, I don't want him stinking the place out next season. Terrible signing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on January 31, 2016, 09:15:45 PM
I would try and sell him at the end of the season if we can find a buyer.  I hope he has a reduced wages clause in his contract just in case we cannot sell him.  I would then consider loaning him out and paying half his wages.  It might cost us £20k a week but it might be worth it and I am sure a PL club would take him off our hands for about £30k a week wages.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: David_Nab on January 31, 2016, 11:25:51 PM
According to Daily Mail Sunderland have made offer for him
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 31, 2016, 11:27:15 PM
Drive him up there if they're offering 5m.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2016, 11:27:50 PM
It could be a great transfer window after all then.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on January 31, 2016, 11:27:54 PM
Please let it be true and I will take a day off work and drive him up there.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2016, 11:28:49 PM
Please let it be true and I will take a day off work and drive him up there.

I call shotgun!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: curiousorange on January 31, 2016, 11:29:38 PM
If his replacement's signed and sealed, Sunderland can have him for nothing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on January 31, 2016, 11:31:06 PM
£5m would be a great deal, his replacement can be a Yorkshire terrier.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2016, 11:31:54 PM
His replacement could be Nathan Baker and we'd be no worse off.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 31, 2016, 11:40:13 PM
If we manage to fuck this donkey off tomorrow and still don't get anyone in, at least we'll have a reason to celebrate something.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on January 31, 2016, 11:44:28 PM
Genuinely if we could pull that Sane and loan Debuchy tomorrow and then fuck Richards off we would be miles better off.

If we could do that, AND sign striker, it would be the best day of the season so far!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on January 31, 2016, 11:55:34 PM
Genuinely if we could pull that Sane and loan Debuchy tomorrow and then fuck Richards off we would be miles better off.

If we could do that, AND sign striker, it would be the best day of the season so far!

If we could get £5m for Richards, Debuchy to the end of the season would be fine.  I would take the money now, rather than risk not being able to sell later.  We would also save about £200k on wages.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 01, 2016, 02:51:36 AM
Sell. Bad egg but I imagine there are plenty who would fall for his bullshit still.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on February 01, 2016, 03:07:56 AM
Rearrange this commonly used saying:  off hand bite their.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 01, 2016, 03:34:16 AM
Rearrange this commonly used saying:  off hand bite their.

Yep. If we get Debuchy in, Debuchy - Okore - Lescott - Cissokho should be our back four for the rest of the season. If we need a back-up CH, Clark is adequate cover. Cash in now, he won't be here next season anyway.

Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 01, 2016, 07:29:02 AM
Please let it be true and I will take a day off work and drive him up there.

I call shotgun!

I'll fly over just make sure he gets in the car, but I'm not going to Sunderland. 3 trips is enough for this lifetime thank you.

If he does go anywhere, cue at least a week's worth of "My Villa Hell" headlines as "Micah Lifts The Lid On A Club in Meltdown" along with by lines such as "It was hard to motivate myself after Tim left, he never stood a chance with that French Clique in the dressing room."
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on February 01, 2016, 07:32:47 AM
isnt the debuchy deal dead?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: mr underhill on February 01, 2016, 09:10:45 AM
I don't know but check with Goldman Sachs?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Duncan Shaw on February 01, 2016, 09:45:37 AM
You can bet Fat Sam would get him playing like a world-beater!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 01, 2016, 01:31:30 PM
Can we christen him as "The Aussie"

The f##ker goes walkabout more often than Crocodile Dundee.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT Villan on February 01, 2016, 01:44:24 PM
We should bite off Sunderland's hand for that offer...we get £5m and at the same time weaken a relegation rival...do it now.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: class-of-82 on February 01, 2016, 07:32:24 PM
Think debuchy gone to bordeaux
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on February 01, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
Fuck him off and promote a kid.
I actually think Richards is the shittest center-half we've had in ages, possibly since I can remember (since football began). Why? He's quick, he's strong as an ox. He's leaps like a salmon. He's good on the ball for a defender...so why is he so fucking awful? Because despite having every attribute. I've never known a defender so utterly fucking hopeless at playing as part of a unit, as part of a team. He has no awareness of what others are doing. He's got no idea where he's supposed to position himself. Half the time he doesn't even seem to care. He just plays by himself. His own game. He's an awful choice as captain. He's also got a poor attitude and temperament.

Sell him now. He's awful. Simply fucking terrible. It's understandable why some players are shit. But why would a player who's built for it and has every physical and skill attribute so terrible? Inexcusable. Pathetic excuse for a defender.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on February 01, 2016, 07:57:08 PM
Fuck him off and promote a kid.
I actually think Richards is the shittest center-half we've had in ages, possibly since I can remember (since football began). Why? He's quick, he's strong as an ox. He's leaps like a salmon. He's good on the ball for a defender...so why is he so fucking awful? Because despite having every attribute. I've never known a defender so utterly fucking hopeless at playing as part of a unit, as part of a team. He has no awareness of what others are doing. He's got no idea where he's supposed to position himself. Half the time he doesn't even seem to care. He just plays by himself. His own game. He's an awful choice as captain. He's also got a poor attitude and temperament.

Sell him now. He's awful. Simply fucking terrible. It's understandable why some players are shit. But why would a player who's built for it and has every physical and skill attribute so terrible? Inexcusable. Pathetic excuse for a defender.

Wholeheartedly agree, and just down to his shitty attitude for me. He thinks he's made it already, earning 65k a week, probably too good for us. The fact he's been Captain sums the club up. A player who gives the bare minimum of effort. Only beaten by another for effort, that being Gabby.

Oh, he's been Captain too. Sigh.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 01, 2016, 08:03:29 PM
Fuck him off and promote a kid.
I actually think Richards is the shittest center-half we've had in ages, possibly since I can remember (since football began). Why? He's quick, he's strong as an ox. He's leaps like a salmon. He's good on the ball for a defender...so why is he so fucking awful? Because despite having every attribute. I've never known a defender so utterly fucking hopeless at playing as part of a unit, as part of a team. He has no awareness of what others are doing. He's got no idea where he's supposed to position himself. Half the time he doesn't even seem to care. He just plays by himself. His own game. He's an awful choice as captain. He's also got a poor attitude and temperament.

Sell him now. He's awful. Simply fucking terrible. It's understandable why some players are shit. But why would a player who's built for it and has every physical and skill attribute so terrible? Inexcusable. Pathetic excuse for a defender.

Bravo.

Shame he's still here
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on February 01, 2016, 08:12:19 PM
he cost us nothing so i would let the c*** go for nothing
 
we are calling out for strong leader on the pitch and someone to lead by example and we have this useless fuckwit
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on February 01, 2016, 08:36:23 PM
isnt the debuchy deal dead?
It is now.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on February 01, 2016, 08:49:58 PM
I'm not on Twitter but I'm hoping he's put out a message of solidarity, urging us to stick together and promising he'll be giving 100% to the cause.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: supertom on February 01, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
One thing that I feel in my gut about Richards more than anything is, that when the inevitable happens, he'll be the first rat to try and desert. I think it's written all over him. He'll come out with a few lines about wanting to be in the elite of the Premier League. He'll probably go as far as handing in a request and someone will probably buy him in the misguided belief that he's a good player. I don't envision him having a shred of loyalty at all.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 01, 2016, 10:31:04 PM
There's no way he'll hand in a transfer request as long as the earth spins round the sun and Jim White spouts bollocks on transfer deadline day.

Ask for a transfer and kiss goodbye to 3½ years of £60K per week in "loyalty bonus?" There's more chance of us staying up than that.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: curiousorange on February 02, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
I have to say, I thought he really put in a shift tonight. To be honest, I'd have pushed him further forward after the first goal went in.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 02, 2016, 09:40:51 PM
Thought he did alright tonight.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 03, 2016, 12:18:08 AM
Arguably his best performance for us. All too little too late.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on February 03, 2016, 06:18:37 AM
Richards will have more good games than bad ones for the rest of the season, because Mr. Richards only cares about Mr. Richards he will take it as a chance to put himself in the window, if Sunderland stop up , long shot I know they will come back with an offer, probably around 5 mill and he will be gone.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2016, 06:38:56 AM
The sooner the better. He epitomises every dubious character defect in all the long list of players who have taken so much from us and given back so little.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on February 03, 2016, 06:52:07 AM
That appears to be a professional footballer your describing there Brian, or should I say the ones attracted to Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2016, 07:04:56 AM
Yes, I am cynical I confess where the upper echelons of the game are concerned.  They receive so much and put back so little.  What they put back is invariably only part of a PR charm offensive to either mask a record of self interest or to achieve some sort of unearned reputation.  I have more respect for Paul Birch who became a postman and died young than I do for the likes of Richards.  At least Paul is immortalised in song.  More than Richards will ever be.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villabear on March 04, 2016, 11:19:53 PM
Apparently he's got a buy out clause in his contract.

Bye then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/12184243/Micah-Richards-deal-lets-club-captain-leave-doomed-Aston-Villa-for-a-paltry-5-million.html

It'll be interesting to find out who's leaking all this to the Telegraph.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: andyh on March 04, 2016, 11:25:25 PM
He cost us fuck all.
He is a disruptive prima donna.
He's one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in.
We'll get £5m for him.
He ain't that good.

No biggie....bye.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 04, 2016, 11:30:05 PM
Paltry? £8m for Delph was paltry. £5m for Richards is the crime of the century.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: old man villa fan on March 04, 2016, 11:30:09 PM
At last, some good news.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Stirchley Villain on March 04, 2016, 11:33:50 PM
I'd get rid for £5M now. He's absolute gash. In fact I'll drive him myself to Stoke or wherever the fuck whenever he likes.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ads on March 04, 2016, 11:59:54 PM
I'd take £5. Get him gone.

Awful defender.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt C on March 05, 2016, 12:23:13 AM
£5m for a defender with the positional sense of a Labrador is great business.

More interesting is who is talking to the Telegraph because either the club or the players (/their agents) are talking, this stuff isn't appearing by chance.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Pete3206 on March 05, 2016, 12:29:16 AM
Who on earth is going to stump up £5 mil for Richards?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on March 05, 2016, 12:31:51 AM
This is like when you hear of a Brazilian player and his club have placed a £75m release clause on him and you think who the fuck is going to pay that, why bother.

This blokes a clown.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Gregorys Boy on March 05, 2016, 01:04:31 AM
He has been poor, but as long as we could at least 15 matches out of him in the Championship I'd say he might be worth keeping.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Mellin on March 05, 2016, 08:04:32 AM
Absolutely not. Our biggest problem ahead of a lack of quality is the disgraceful attitude of a decent percentage of the squad. We need to show in no uncertain terms that isn't acceptable. N'Zogbia's gone anyway, Richards needs to be shipped too. Gabby and the remainder can be fired from a cannon.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Ormy Droid on March 05, 2016, 08:56:19 AM
At first I thought it must be the club briefing Percy to let other clubs know that Richards was available for £5m, but then the phrase 'Cut Price' got stuck in my head. £5m for him isn't 'Cut Price' at any stretch of the imagination, so I can only assume it's come from his agent.

There's so much money coming into the Prem this year, it's likely that someone might feel he's worth a gamble even as back up, which would be at least one saving grace.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: passport1 on March 05, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
I doubt there will a queue around the block for him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brian green on March 05, 2016, 09:08:43 AM
Which manager in his right mind wants a trouble maker in the dressing room?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: phantom limb on March 05, 2016, 09:11:25 AM
This is where I would normally think it'll be just our luck that he will go on to another club and be great for them, but I just can't see it happening. He's absolute gash.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Clampy on March 05, 2016, 09:18:35 AM
I thought he was great in his first few games under Sherwood. His last good game though was West Ham away, he was excellent that night.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on March 05, 2016, 09:23:14 AM
£5m for a defender with the positional sense of a Labrador is great business.

More interesting is who is talking to the Telegraph because either the club or the players (/their agents) are talking, this stuff isn't appearing by chance.

It's easy to train Labradors though and get them to do what you want them to. Not sure that equates to Richards being like a Labrador. A cat maybe? They just wander wherever they like and won't have anyone tell them what to do.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Neil Hawkes on March 05, 2016, 09:34:47 AM
£5m for a defender with the positional sense of a Labrador is great business.

More interesting is who is talking to the Telegraph because either the club or the players (/their agents) are talking, this stuff isn't appearing by chance.

It's easy to train Labradors though and get them to do what you want them to. Not sure that equates to Richards being like a Labrador. A cat maybe? They just wander wherever they like and won't have anyone tell them what to do.
Perfect "Cat Richards"
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 05, 2016, 09:36:10 AM
Is this supposed to be bad news? Can't see anyone paying that kind of money for him. Must be a misprint.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Drummond on March 05, 2016, 11:12:47 AM
He will end up as another one that we can't shift, even on a free.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nelly on March 05, 2016, 11:18:20 AM
I'd ship him out for £5.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on March 05, 2016, 11:25:58 AM
I'm quote happy to someone boot the underperforming cretiin to wherever the fuck he wants to go next.

Poor technique, poor positional play, undermotivated and overpaid
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 05, 2016, 11:26:43 AM
I'd ship him out for £5.

Done, will you take a cheque?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villafirst on March 05, 2016, 11:56:25 AM
A fully committed Micah Richards is worth £5M. He was terrific at Man City. But the the whole culture at Villa from top to bottom is a shambles and breeds a couldn't care less attitude amongst many of the players.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Nelly on March 05, 2016, 12:09:30 PM
I'd ship him out for £5.

Done, will you take a cheque?

I'd take a dog-eared IOU scribbled on a bit of loo roll. So long as you take him!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 05, 2016, 01:14:25 PM
When I think of someone giving us £5m for him.

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Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Yossarian on March 05, 2016, 01:22:18 PM
Apparently he's got a buy out clause in his contract.

Bye then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/12184243/Micah-Richards-deal-lets-club-captain-leave-doomed-Aston-Villa-for-a-paltry-5-million.html

It'll be interesting to find out who's leaking all this to the Telegraph.

That'll be his agent. Only his agent could think that he might possibly be worth five million quid. Perhaps his mom might as well. But nobody else.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: rob_bridge on March 05, 2016, 01:30:49 PM
Apparently he's got a buy out clause in his contract.

Bye then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/12184243/Micah-Richards-deal-lets-club-captain-leave-doomed-Aston-Villa-for-a-paltry-5-million.html

It'll be interesting to find out who's leaking all this to the Telegraph.

That'll be his agent. Only his agent could think that he might possibly be worth five million quid. Perhaps his mom might as well. But nobody else.

Dome mug punter will think he is thankfully. After all Villa's problems are all down to signing inexperienced French speaking players. The English players have been fighting as hard those on D-Day. That's the difference - don't you know?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: LeeB on March 05, 2016, 01:50:04 PM
Apparently he's got a buy out clause in his contract.

Bye then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/12184243/Micah-Richards-deal-lets-club-captain-leave-doomed-Aston-Villa-for-a-paltry-5-million.html

It'll be interesting to find out who's leaking all this to the Telegraph.

That'll be his agent. Only his agent could think that he might possibly be worth five million quid. Perhaps his mom might as well. But nobody else.

Dome mug punter will think he is thankfully. After all Villa's problems are all down to signing inexperienced French speaking players. The English players have been fighting as hard those on D-Day. That's the difference - don't you know?

That's a good point Rob. This misinformation peddled by the national media could actually work in our favour.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on March 05, 2016, 02:12:15 PM
Amazing that the likes of Richards have got away with it lightly despite being woeful most weeks, yet Veretout, Gana etc who are statistically and clearly the better players each week have taken the blame for the poor season.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: myf on March 05, 2016, 04:23:25 PM
Wilm anyone pay 5m for that shithouse?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: aj2k77 on March 05, 2016, 04:24:55 PM
Abortion of a defender.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: CT on March 05, 2016, 04:26:17 PM
Shit attitude and appalling defender.

What a combination.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 05, 2016, 04:27:24 PM
He's flying up the Hodgeometer.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 05, 2016, 04:48:16 PM
He's flying up the Hodgeometer.

He's gone beyond it for me.

Bet he's enjoying watching his beloved City today.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 05, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
He's flying up the Hodgeometer.

He's gone beyond it for me.

Bet he's enjoying watching his beloved City today.

Same here. I don't think he's given a shit since he's been here.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2016, 05:02:07 PM
He's flying up the Hodgeometer.

The mere fact he's in the conversation is an indictment unto itself. You have to be old enough to remember off course, but he is fast become Hodge incarnate.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: DaveD on March 05, 2016, 05:05:55 PM
At least Hodge had some decent games before he became a c***
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: in exile on March 05, 2016, 05:10:07 PM
I hope he is the first one out the door
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: brontebilly on March 05, 2016, 05:13:55 PM
A fully committed Micah Richards is worth £5M. He was terrific at Man City. But the the whole culture at Villa from top to bottom is a shambles and breeds a couldn't care less attitude amongst many of the players.

He was never anything but a typical bang average English player with a reputation that far exceeded his ability.

He gave up the game pretty much when Zabaleta took his place at City in 2011/12. Look at his pathetic playing record since. The come and get me plea via the Torygraph this week sums up this delusional moron.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: olaftab on March 05, 2016, 05:20:06 PM
C***!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: myf on March 05, 2016, 08:01:56 PM
Why is garde playing him?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on March 05, 2016, 09:32:04 PM
he is poor signing and think he is worse signing of the season in premier league. Is there any evidence he is a Villa fan. As we don't seem to have good luck with them especially with him, Agbonlahor or Collymore. But they can't all be like Sir Ian Taylor.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on March 05, 2016, 09:33:41 PM
he is poor signing and think he is worse signing of the season in premier league. Is there any evidence he is a Villa fan. As we don't seem to have good luck with them especially with him, Agbonlahor or Collymore. But they can't all be like Sir Ian Taylor.


Richards was born in Birmingham, but I don't think he was raised here - no evidence of him being a Villa fan.

Lescott supposedly is.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: villabear on March 05, 2016, 10:05:36 PM
he is poor signing and think he is worse signing of the season in premier league. Is there any evidence he is a Villa fan. As we don't seem to have good luck with them especially with him, Agbonlahor or Collymore. But they can't all be like Sir Ian Taylor.




Richards was born in Birmingham, but I don't think he was raised here - no evidence of him being a Villa fan.

Lescott supposedly is.

I always discounted him as a Villa fan especially after the sweary post match interview he did when he scored against us for Man City.  I thought after that there were stories of him being a nose.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 05, 2016, 10:12:41 PM
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I was born in Birmingham but I grew up in Leeds and, although I liked Leeds United, I supported Arsenal as well because of Ian Wright.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ozzjim on March 06, 2016, 12:37:03 AM
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I was born in Birmingham but I grew up in Leeds and, although I liked Leeds United, I supported Arsenal as well because of Ian Wright.

But what about Richards PWS?

Seriously though, we should have taken the money when Sunderland came in on deadline day.

My list of "outs" for this summer is huge!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2016, 12:41:14 AM
It's very rare for me to dislike players when they are with us. Him and Gabby are two that I am beginning to hate being here.
Players like Bacuna, Westwood, even Bowery type players, I may want them to leave the club but I don't dislike them. It's not their fault they aren't good enough or keep getting picked.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Steve67 on March 06, 2016, 12:55:04 AM
Richards was too busy giving the Man City players a hand up off the floor to bother with defending properly. We let in four cheap goals. The volleyed effort for Aguero's goal was a nice move and finish but Hutton and Richards were diabolical in that move. I hope Richards was embarrassed with his performance, doubt it though. I also wonder if it's him releasing bits of info to the press?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: David_Nab on March 06, 2016, 01:05:24 AM
Useless again today , why he Garde Playing him ?

He is a utter liability he must be involved in 90% of the goals we concede with his useless positioning.He isn't a CB by a long shot being quick and strong isn't enough but at the same time he is not much better at RB where his lack of ability on ball makes him a passenger.

5mil I'd snap the hands off anyone offering that
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 06, 2016, 02:16:43 AM
Nobody will pay £5 million for Richards, we are lumbered with him.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: adrenachrome on March 06, 2016, 02:44:05 AM
The 5 Million clause is based on a figure at which we must let him go I would venture, hard as that may to believe.

We will let him go for considerably less to a club for whom he may fulfill a role, as long as the role does not having any defensive discipline or a a longer attention span than a cocker spaniel with a lackadaisical owner when there are rabbits about.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 06, 2016, 03:42:03 AM
He was a signing I really thought would make a difference, he's made a difference alright, he's turned our crap defence into a really crap defence.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Matt C on March 06, 2016, 05:57:20 AM
He was at fault for every goal today, all four of them.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: pbavfckuwait on March 06, 2016, 06:11:24 AM
I think we are all agreed that the player Micah Richards is crap and has no redeeming features, yet he still trots onto the pitch with the captains arm band, that to me sums up Aston Villa this season.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Alex77 on March 06, 2016, 07:19:42 AM
& to prove his commitment to the cause, he was absolutely shit faced by 9pm on Thursday night at a bar in Wetherby!
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: OzVilla on March 06, 2016, 07:36:41 AM
Tbf at least he's consistant, he's been fucking us over from day 1. Many thought he was being a bit naive advising Fibian about Citeh and discussing it in public.  We're just a cash cow to him, he's taken the piss all year.

Can't believe he's still gets picked let alone being our Captain. Him and Gabby, fucking arseholes the pair of them.


Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2016, 01:55:55 PM
& to prove his commitment to the cause, he was absolutely shit faced by 9pm on Thursday night at a bar in Wetherby!

Less of the allegations, unless you can afford a better lawyer than he can.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 06, 2016, 01:57:06 PM
& to prove his commitment to the cause, he was absolutely shit faced by 9pm on Thursday night at a bar in Wetherby!

Wasn't the same one that O'Leary frequents by any chance was it?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Diablo on March 06, 2016, 03:07:22 PM
& to prove his commitment to the cause, he was absolutely shit faced by 9pm on Thursday night at a bar in Wetherby!

How do you know this?
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 07, 2016, 01:27:19 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micah_Richards
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 07, 2016, 01:34:00 PM
Childish but amusing and oddly satisfying.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 07, 2016, 02:20:34 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: tomd2103 on March 07, 2016, 02:24:23 PM
Nobody will pay £5 million for Richards, we are lumbered with him.

Seeing as we didn't pay a fee for him, I would accept anything anyone is willing to pay. 
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 07, 2016, 02:59:50 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Agbonlahor

I can't believe people find this sort of thing amusing.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: Smirker on March 07, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
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Agbonlahor in typical playing position (stationary) for Aston Villa

 ;D
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: DaveD on March 07, 2016, 04:09:15 PM
They've both been wound back now, but you can still see the revisions. I do like 'Lescottius Laziarse'.
Title: Re: Micah Richards signed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 07, 2016, 05:58:32 PM
I can't remember the last time I disliked one of our players s much as I do Micah Richards.  We can only dream of his ridiculous £5m clause being activated! I n reality we would be lucky to get someone to take him off our hands on a free transfer without us coughing up part of