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Offline supertom

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7950 on: August 29, 2015, 11:31:37 PM »
Austin strikes me as one of those types of players who tends to go in the last day or two of the window. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't end up leaving QPR. I'd love to have him here and I'd take the gamble. With the likes of Sinclair, Gil, Traore and Grealish, he should have a field day. He doesn't necessarily have to involve himself in build up play as we have quality players who can take and keep the ball in and around the penalty area. What we don't have, unless more faith is shown in Libor, is a striker who will anticipate the likes of Grealish and make the runs, find space or look to finish a chance ruthlessly.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7951 on: August 29, 2015, 11:34:24 PM »
We must have one of , if not The lowest net spend across The PL this summer which is poor. We clearly need some quality and experience and again the board are looking to stay up on the cheap.
Net spend argument is bunk. We are the 4th biggest spending Club in the division and that's very good.
No that's the illusion , if you're naive enough to be taken in.
We've spent barely £5m which is a travesty and we are short in key areas.
The board have 3 days to get this sorted and properly support the manager .

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7952 on: August 29, 2015, 11:38:06 PM »
But the point is that the clubs insure the player for the transfer fee they're paying, if I understand it correctly? Regardless of how many games he's played in the past few seasons, if Austin really does have a serious knee issue, no club will get insurance on a £15m fee.

So, how did West Ham, Newcastle and Chelsea manage to insure Demba Ba given that he failed a medical with Stoke due to his supposed knee problem?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7953 on: August 29, 2015, 11:40:29 PM »
We must have one of , if not The lowest net spend across The PL this summer which is poor. We clearly need some quality and experience and again the board are looking to stay up on the cheap.
Net spend argument is bunk. We are the 4th biggest spending Club in the division and that's very good.
No that's the illusion , if you're naive enough to be taken in.
We've spent barely £5m which is a travesty and we are short in key areas.
The board have 3 days to get this sorted and properly support the manager .

I don't agree with your slightly excessive interpretation of the spending, but I also agree in that I don't see how the "the net spend argument is bunkum" thing stacks up when it is just a literal description of our ins and outs this summer, and there for all to see. It is a financial fact.

I don't really care too much this way or the other about spending money for the sake of it, I wouldn't want us to do that, ever. I am impressed by a lot of our signings, they show surprising creativity and thought. Something we've lacked for ages.

What I do worry about, though, is that we've sold Benteke, who was disproportionately our main goals supplier in seasons in which we didn't score many goals, and not bought any single player in who suggests he'll supply anything like that many goals.

I see lots of good things in the new players, just not goals.

Sinclair is not going to be relied upon to supply them for the rest of the season. Gestede is an option from the lower leagues, Ayew is not a main goal source player and will take time to settle.

That strikes me as a dangerous risk to be taking, and I hope we bring someone in before Monday.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7954 on: August 29, 2015, 11:45:46 PM »
Thanks for putting words in my mouth but not once have I said "spend for the sake of spending"
I'm saying buy the players we need of the proven quality this league demands in the following areas

Replace Clark (Lescott ?)
Replace Westwood / DCM
Replace  Benteke (Austin ?)

Further down the line
RB
Keeper

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7955 on: August 29, 2015, 11:46:23 PM »
Austin strikes me as one of those types of players who tends to go in the last day or two of the window. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't end up leaving QPR. I'd love to have him here and I'd take the gamble. With the likes of Sinclair, Gil, Traore and Grealish, he should have a field day. He doesn't necessarily have to involve himself in build up play as we have quality players who can take and keep the ball in and around the penalty area. What we don't have, unless more faith is shown in Libor, is a striker who will anticipate the likes of Grealish and make the runs, find space or look to finish a chance ruthlessly.

Completely agree and think that Sinclair has highlighted that very fact this week. A top class poacher would get loads of goals in this team.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7956 on: August 29, 2015, 11:50:42 PM »
But the point is that the clubs insure the player for the transfer fee they're paying, if I understand it correctly? Regardless of how many games he's played in the past few seasons, if Austin really does have a serious knee issue, no club will get insurance on a £15m fee.

So, how did West Ham, Newcastle and Chelsea manage to insure Demba Ba given that he failed a medical with Stoke due to his supposed knee problem?

Either by passing A medical at those clubs, or by those clubs choosing to run the risk of not having his transfer fee insured, I would imagine. I'm not suggesting that Austin can't be signed, just that clubs appear to be bulking at his asking price because of this issue. It wouldn't surprise me to see a number of clubs try their luck with lower bids as the deadline approaches.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2015, 11:56:13 PM by RussellC »

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7958 on: August 30, 2015, 12:14:16 AM »
Thanks for putting words in my mouth but not once have I said "spend for the sake of spending"
I'm saying buy the players we need of the proven quality this league demands in the following areas

Replace Clark (Lescott ?)
Replace Westwood / DCM
Replace  Benteke (Austin ?)

Further down the line
RB
Keeper

I'm not sure we need a midfielder, if we're playing 4231 the options for the 2 are: Sanchez, Gueye, Westwood, Veretout and Gardner.  I'm happy enough with that.

I can understand the defender, I'd like to see Senderos go and I think he'd need to be replaced and I'm then happy enough with the defence.  I'd then have a keeper next, I like Guzan but his distribution is becoming a big problem.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7959 on: August 30, 2015, 12:49:42 AM »
Let's make a bid for Arsenal's current top scorer - Own Goal.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7960 on: August 30, 2015, 12:51:26 AM »
Thanks for putting words in my mouth but not once have I said "spend for the sake of spending"

I didn't say you did say that.

I was making a general point about spending for the sake of it in that it doesn't have to be purely about figures, but about who you get in.

I like Amavi, but I'd like him more if he'd cost 1m rather than 9m, for example.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2015, 12:54:35 AM by pauliewalnuts »

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7961 on: August 30, 2015, 12:56:35 AM »
Lescott played left back for wba so maybe he will be competitive good for amavis place

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7962 on: August 30, 2015, 01:17:42 AM »
Thats just silly footyskillz.

Lescott was only brought back in to the Baggies team because Brunt was injured, and for whatever reason, Pulis like to play 4x CBs in defence rather than buy a modern LB and RB. Having signed Chester and Evans, they now have 5x CBs plus Brunt who will be there adventurous defensive lineup this season as they set up 10 men behind the ball every game...unless the take a risk playing 2 men up front when the opposition go down to 10 or 9 men.

Chester
Evans
Olsson
McAuley
Dawson
Brunt

...pretty much tells you everything you need to know about Pulis and Baggies.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7963 on: August 30, 2015, 08:34:27 AM »
Austin strikes me as one of those types of players who tends to go in the last day or two of the window. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't end up leaving QPR. I'd love to have him here and I'd take the gamble. With the likes of Sinclair, Gil, Traore and Grealish, he should have a field day. He doesn't necessarily have to involve himself in build up play as we have quality players who can take and keep the ball in and around the penalty area. What we don't have, unless more faith is shown in Libor, is a striker who will anticipate the likes of Grealish and make the runs, find space or look to finish a chance ruthlessly.

Completely agree and think that Sinclair has highlighted that very fact this week. A top class poacher would get loads of goals in this team.
With Sinclair ghosting in from the left, and someone like Austin finding pockets in the penalty area (as long as they don't step on each others toes) I think we'll be scoring significantly more than we have in recent seasons.
I think between Gil, Grealish, Troare, Amavi, Veretout, we've got plenty of supply line. And Sinclair when he's not getting on the end of them.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7964 on: August 30, 2015, 08:35:08 AM »
Lescott played left back for wba so maybe he will be competitive good for amavis place

bugger  me did you see him at left back in the quarter final? a pallet of bricks would have been more mobile

 


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