Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[mr underhill]

If we can get N'Zogbia's reputed 68k a week off the books, surely that gives scope for one or two to come in?

[tomd2103]

Ray Wilkins was on Talksport earlier and said that he expects more transfer activity at Villa Park before the close of the window.

Did he say outgoing or incoming

I can't remember how exactly he phrased it, but he did suggest they are still looking to bring players in.

[Hookeysmith]

I commented to a mate yesterday that on the other twosome from moronville, Durham and Thick Northern twat Gough. Monday

"My question is to all United fans, Is United and Rooney finished"

Thursday

"Does this result prove Rooney is back"

Utter wankshite on what is becoming United FM

[pauliewalnuts]

I wonder if it's more likely to be the case that we have a contracts man now who is giving them the hook, rather than Lambert doing everything.

That, basically.

If it really was left to Lambert to do stuff like that, then that's awful organisation. Of exactly the sort we've seen for several years until recently. I find it really hard to believe it's all Lambert's fault.

Wouldn't the fact that the players were not on crazy wages in the first place also be a factor?  The players lambert tried to get rid of were largely on ridiculous contracts - Bent/Hutton/Given - and therefore there's little incentive for them to leave as no club would match their deal.  The fact that Nzogbia is still here even supports this theory.

Ironically Sherwood may have benefitted from Lambert's shrewdness.  Hmmm maybe that's stretching it.

The failure to move players on goes back much further than Lambert, though.

Look at all the shit we had from the MON years on good money but not getting used, whose contracts were just allowed to expire. The waste on people like Heskey, NRC, Habib Beye.

[pauliewalnuts]

I commented to a mate yesterday that on the other twosome from moronville, Durham and Thick Northern twat Gough. Monday

"My question is to all United fans, Is United and Rooney finished"

Thursday

"Does this result prove Rooney is back"

Utter wankshite on what is becoming United FM

The strange thing about Adrian Durham is that if you listen to him when he does their live stuff on a Saturday afternoon, where he isn't forced to fit into some sort of witty pairing with the likes of Darren Gough, he's actually pretty good. He makes me think there's actually a decent journalist in there.

Darren Gough, though, fucking hell. He's surely the thickest person on national radio? Except possibly Micky Quinn. He can barely string a sentence together. Listening to him massacre the English language with all that "the team what started the match" style stuff makes me want to snap something in half.

[Dante Lavelli]

I wonder if it's more likely to be the case that we have a contracts man now who is giving them the hook, rather than Lambert doing everything.

That, basically.

If it really was left to Lambert to do stuff like that, then that's awful organisation. Of exactly the sort we've seen for several years until recently. I find it really hard to believe it's all Lambert's fault.

Wouldn't the fact that the players were not on crazy wages in the first place also be a factor?  The players lambert tried to get rid of were largely on ridiculous contracts - Bent/Hutton/Given - and therefore there's little incentive for them to leave as no club would match their deal.  The fact that Nzogbia is still here even supports this theory.

Ironically Sherwood may have benefitted from Lambert's shrewdness.  Hmmm maybe that's stretching it.

The failure to move players on goes back much further than Lambert, though.

Look at all the shit we had from the MON years on good money but not getting used, whose contracts were just allowed to expire. The waste on people like Heskey, NRC, Habib Beye.

That was kind of my point.  Sherwood has benefitted because players are no-longer on such lucrative contracts.  That policy of more realistic wages probably started under Lambert.  Whereas Lambert was handicapped by the big contracts handed out by MON/Houllier.

[Ads]

Where has this £68k per week figure come from with N'Zogbia?

[footyskillz]

Ray Wilkins was on Talksport earlier and said that he expects more transfer activity at Villa Park before the close of the window.

Did he say outgoing or incoming

I can't remember how exactly he phrased it, but he did suggest they are still looking to bring players in.

Kevin chicken dance Nolan released by west ham and always looked good in claret and blue. Model pro would be useful . who's aboard the Nolan train with me:-)

[Percy McCarthy]

I wonder if it's more likely to be the case that we have a contracts man now who is giving them the hook, rather than Lambert doing everything.

That, basically.

If it really was left to Lambert to do stuff like that, then that's awful organisation. Of exactly the sort we've seen for several years until recently. I find it really hard to believe it's all Lambert's fault.

Wouldn't the fact that the players were not on crazy wages in the first place also be a factor?  The players lambert tried to get rid of were largely on ridiculous contracts - Bent/Hutton/Given - and therefore there's little incentive for them to leave as no club would match their deal.  The fact that Nzogbia is still here even supports this theory.

Ironically Sherwood may have benefitted from Lambert's shrewdness.  Hmmm maybe that's stretching it.

The failure to move players on goes back much further than Lambert, though.

Look at all the shit we had from the MON years on good money but not getting used, whose contracts were just allowed to expire. The waste on people like Heskey, NRC, Habib Beye.

That was kind of my point.  Sherwood has benefitted because players are no-longer on such lucrative contracts.  That policy of more realistic wages probably started under Lambert.  Whereas Lambert was handicapped by the big contracts handed out by MON/Houllier.

And McLeish. The mad thing is we were supposedly in full-on cut the wages at all costs mode by the time he came, and we let him spend nearly twenty million on - and give ridiculous contracts to - CNZ, Given and Hutton. Talk about muddled thinking.

[dave shelley]

I've often wondered how Alan Brazil is still employed on national radio, he's so bad. He's basically a moron who happens to have a radio-friendly voice.

That's just it Russel, I believe he's employed because he is a moron.  People probably tune in just to listen and laugh, it's good comedy,  there will, of course be those that believe in the shite that is spouted; but as we all know it's listeners to generate  the advertising revenue that is paramount not journalistic nous.  I have never heard Talksport btw.  See also Franksy.

[KRS]

Kevin chicken dance Nolan released by west ham and always looked good in claret and blue. Model pro would be useful . who's aboard the Nolan train with me:-)

No...you're on your own and you can buy your own ticket.

[warleyboy]

Seriously can't compare franksey with Brazil.
Yes, both idiot radio presenters in there own right, but at least Brazil was a pretty good footballer.
Franksey is just a villa hating bafoon, who should be working at the glee club, cos he is a joke.

[passitsideways]

I wonder if it's more likely to be the case that we have a contracts man now who is giving them the hook, rather than Lambert doing everything.

That, basically.

If it really was left to Lambert to do stuff like that, then that's awful organisation. Of exactly the sort we've seen for several years until recently. I find it really hard to believe it's all Lambert's fault.

Wouldn't the fact that the players were not on crazy wages in the first place also be a factor?  The players lambert tried to get rid of were largely on ridiculous contracts - Bent/Hutton/Given - and therefore there's little incentive for them to leave as no club would match their deal.  The fact that Nzogbia is still here even supports this theory.

Ironically Sherwood may have benefitted from Lambert's shrewdness.  Hmmm maybe that's stretching it.

The failure to move players on goes back much further than Lambert, though.

Look at all the shit we had from the MON years on good money but not getting used, whose contracts were just allowed to expire. The waste on people like Heskey, NRC, Habib Beye.

That was kind of my point.  Sherwood has benefitted because players are no-longer on such lucrative contracts.  That policy of more realistic wages probably started under Lambert.  Whereas Lambert was handicapped by the big contracts handed out by MON/Houllier.

And McLeish. The mad thing is we were supposedly in full-on cut the wages at all costs mode by the time he came, and we let him spend nearly twenty million on - and give ridiculous contracts to - CNZ, Given and Hutton. Talk about muddled thinking.

I don't think he was exactly in charge of any of them, except for maybe Hutton. We were being strongly linked with N'Zogbia even before McLeish arrived. I agree on the muddled thinking though: I think the reasoning was that we needed at least one player to replace Downing/Young, a new keeper since Friedel had left on a free transfer, and from what I recall we brought in Hutton as a like-for-like replacement of Luke Young, on a slightly-lower wage packet. It's fair enough that we needed to buy a winger, GK and RB that summer, but we treated it like they had to be PL-proven, which has consequences on the kinds of wages you would have to pay.

I guess this would sound like a crazy opinion, but I do think Martinez turning us down that summer set us back a ridiculous amount (yeah, easy to say in hindsight given the TSMs we had in succession.) Sure, he's not that great of a manager, but I think even with our impending austerity measures he could've built well off the Houllier season, as we still had some decent players who I think would've kicked on under his style of play: Makoun, Albrighton, Bannan, Delph, even Weimann and Gardner who showed up later in that season.

[pauliewalnuts]

Ray Wilkins was on Talksport earlier and said that he expects more transfer activity at Villa Park before the close of the window.

Did he say outgoing or incoming

I can't remember how exactly he phrased it, but he did suggest they are still looking to bring players in.

Kevin chicken dance Nolan released by west ham and always looked good in claret and blue. Model pro would be useful . who's aboard the Nolan train with me:-)

Just you and Sam Allardyce.

[Clampy]

Kevin chicken dance Nolan released by west ham and always looked good in claret and blue. Model pro would be useful . who's aboard the Nolan train with me:-)

No...you're on your own and you can buy your own ticket.

At least he's finally got off the Altidore Express.