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Offline Lobsterboy

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7740 on: August 27, 2015, 02:03:22 PM »
It looks like Tonev has officially left the building!

Sherwood is not doing a bad job at all of getting rid of some of the rubbish - safe to say we won't need to dip into the transfer market to replace this particular individual


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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7741 on: August 27, 2015, 02:20:25 PM »
Mellberg did ok if you don't mind square pegs in round holes.  The point is that the role of full back requires a player to be athletic and pacy, with the ability to overlap and cross the ball and contribute offensively.  It's why Amavi will be a success at Villa, it's why Cuellar and Mellberg looked limited in the role, it's why Cissokho looked bloody awful last season and it's why Okore should not be considered for the role this season. 

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7742 on: August 27, 2015, 02:30:40 PM »
Mellberg did ok if you don't mind square pegs in round holes.  The point is that the role of full back requires a player to be athletic and pacy, with the ability to overlap and cross the ball and contribute offensively.  It's why Amavi will be a success at Villa, it's why Cuellar and Mellberg looked limited in the role, it's why Cissokho looked bloody awful last season and it's why Okore should not be considered for the role this season.

You don't necessarily need both fullbacks to do that though, unless your system is dependent on them to provide width and create goalscoring opportunities. Amavi can be the more forward-thinking of the fullbacks and I think our attacking options are OK: so I don't mind having a RB that stays at home, providing that they do their job properly and comfortable in possession. Hutton's alright, but he's a bit slow for me and I don't trust him with ball at feet. Bacuna, well, there will be some occasions which suit him more than others, but his performance against Palace was almost as bad as Gabby's.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7743 on: August 27, 2015, 02:32:50 PM »
It looks like Tonev has officially left the building!

Sherwood is not doing a bad job at all of getting rid of some of the rubbish - safe to say we won't need to dip into the transfer market to replace this particular individual

I think that's 13 out of the door now.

10 that we wanted out of the door / were nonplussed as to stay or go
Given
Lowton
Vlaar
Cissokho
Stevens
Sylla
Weimann
Helenius
Bent
Tonev

2 that we wanted to keep
Benteke
Delph

1 we didn't know enough about
Burke.


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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7744 on: August 27, 2015, 02:37:50 PM »
Kevin Nolan is available on a free.

**Runs off**

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7745 on: August 27, 2015, 02:41:04 PM »
Kevin Nolan is available on a free.

**Runs off**

Wonder what odds you'd get on him joining Sam Allardyce at Sunderland within the next few weeks?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7746 on: August 27, 2015, 02:49:25 PM »
Antalyaspor have sign Jean Makoun. and Helen George, who stars in Call the Midwife, and SCD is a Villa fan!

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7747 on: August 27, 2015, 02:50:36 PM »
Allardyce would be a really good appointment for Sunderland because they wouldn't be in relegation trouble again. Allardyce has a very definite ceiling but he also has a pretty stable lowest point in his ability. A better version of Pulis so to speak. Can certainly see that happening not too long after we pan them this weekend and they lose a few more after. Advocaat will just walk deciding he doesn't need the grief.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7748 on: August 27, 2015, 02:52:05 PM »
I'd like a keeper more than a winger.

True mate, but if we are going to go with a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 then we are short on wide options with only Traore, Sinclair and possibly Ayew to choose from.  I think sticking Grealish or Gil out there doesn't do them any favours, so I would look for an addition in that area, even if it's only on loan.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7749 on: August 27, 2015, 02:54:18 PM »
Antalyaspor have sign Jean Makoun. and Helen George, who stars in Call the Midwife, and SCD is a Villa fan!

How much did they pay for her?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7750 on: August 27, 2015, 03:33:13 PM »
Mellberg did ok if you don't mind square pegs in round holes.  The point is that the role of full back requires a player to be athletic and pacy, with the ability to overlap and cross the ball and contribute offensively.  It's why Amavi will be a success at Villa, it's why Cuellar and Mellberg looked limited in the role, it's why Cissokho looked bloody awful last season and it's why Okore should not be considered for the role this season.

You don't necessarily need both fullbacks to do that though, unless your system is dependent on them to provide width and create goalscoring opportunities. Amavi can be the more forward-thinking of the fullbacks and I think our attacking options are OK: so I don't mind having a RB that stays at home, providing that they do their job properly and comfortable in possession. Hutton's alright, but he's a bit slow for me and I don't trust him with ball at feet. Bacuna, well, there will be some occasions which suit him more than others, but his performance against Palace was almost as bad as Gabby's.

With Adama marauding down the right and not appearing to be someone who's looking for an overlapping fullback as support, there's no need for Villa's right back to be attack minded.

I'm not saying that McCafu is great, but he should be able to do a job as a stay-at-home defender.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7751 on: August 27, 2015, 03:36:34 PM »
Allardyce would be a really good appointment for Sunderland because they wouldn't be in relegation trouble again. Allardyce has a very definite ceiling but he also has a pretty stable lowest point in his ability. A better version of Pulis so to speak. Can certainly see that happening not too long after we pan them this weekend and they lose a few more after. Advocaat will just walk deciding he doesn't need the grief.

 I was surprised when Advocaat re-signed for this season. I can understand older managers staying/joining successful teams (eg Wenger and Siralex) but, at 67, I wouldn't want the hassle of managing a struggling/rebuilding team like Sunderland (or Villa, for that matter)

Offline RussellC

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7752 on: August 27, 2015, 03:53:26 PM »
It's odd that Sunderland would want a manager for just one year too. I can't imagine it being very attractive to prospective new signings. I quite like Sunderland as a club, but there's a part of me that think they deserve to go down this year, based on just how poor they were at times last season, and at the beginning of this. I felt a little bit sorry for Hull, who never had periods of shipping loads of goals in the way that Sunderland did, but still managed to finish just below them.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7753 on: August 27, 2015, 04:02:12 PM »
It looks like Tonev has officially left the building!

Sherwood is not doing a bad job at all of getting rid of some of the rubbish - safe to say we won't need to dip into the transfer market to replace this particular individual

I think that's 13 out of the door now.

10 that we wanted out of the door / were nonplussed as to stay or go
Given
Lowton
Vlaar
Cissokho
Stevens
Sylla
Weimann
Helenius
Bent
Tonev

2 that we wanted to keep
Benteke
Delph

1 we didn't know enough about
Burke.


You could probably add Luna and Herd to the list of players gone that we're not losing any sleep over...

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7754 on: August 27, 2015, 04:05:22 PM »
You only have to look at Advocaats recent interviews to know that he isn't a happy man at Sunderland particularly with the lack of decent funds for transfers. He'll walk by the end of October...if not sooner.

 


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