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Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5325 on: July 29, 2015, 01:15:46 PM »
Yes but they had a strong spine: clyne, fonte, schneiderlin, wanyama

We've lost ours

Not saying it won't work but it must be a risk / might take some adjusting to

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5326 on: July 29, 2015, 01:21:55 PM »
Yes but they had a strong spine: clyne, fonte, schneiderlin, wanyama

We've lost ours

Not saying it won't work but it must be a risk / might take some adjusting to

Wanyama is a bit rubbish. And they lost their centre forward, main centre back and attacking midfielder, which is all pretty Spiney. 

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5327 on: July 29, 2015, 01:27:36 PM »
Yes but they had a strong spine: clyne, fonte, schneiderlin, wanyama

We've lost ours

Not saying it won't work but it must be a risk / might take some adjusting to

Wanyama is a bit rubbish. And they lost their centre forward, main centre back and attacking midfielder, which is all pretty Spiney. 

Wanyama is very good...

They also replaced an ageing Lambert with Pelle (an upgrade), Lovren with Alderwield (an upgrade), Lallana with Tadic and Mane (an upgrade).

While I am excited by our signings we are currently probably in the position where we haven't really replaced Benteke and Gueye is something of an unknown quantity so may not be the answer to replacing Judas.

Having said that, Ayew, Richards and (hopefully) Veretout are all upgrades.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5328 on: July 29, 2015, 01:33:29 PM »
Yes but they had a strong spine: clyne, fonte, schneiderlin, wanyama

We've lost ours

Not saying it won't work but it must be a risk / might take some adjusting to

Wanyama is a bit rubbish. And they lost their centre forward, main centre back and attacking midfielder, which is all pretty Spiney. 

Wanyama is very good...

They also replaced an ageing Lambert with Pelle (an upgrade), Lovren with Alderwield (an upgrade), Lallana with Tadic and Mane (an upgrade).

While I am excited by our signings we are currently probably in the position where we haven't really replaced Benteke and Gueye is something of an unknown quantity so may not be the answer to replacing Judas.

Having said that, Ayew, Richards and (hopefully) Veretout are all upgrades.

Got to disagree there, I really don't think he's all that.

I think the point that was being made is that Southamptons signings were also unknown quantities. 

And replacing somebody who either scored or assisted almost all our goals is basically impossible.  I think it's the best course to use the money to improve all areas of the team.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5329 on: July 29, 2015, 01:36:59 PM »
It is exciting but I am a bit concerned about integrating everyone - both footballing wise and into re group

I'm sure there'll be a lot of French spoken at BMH. We're also really short on dependable premier league experience. Really really short

My concern too.

Some of these players look like they would add the final flourish to an already solid core.

But we don't have that. 

There is a balance to be found between Martin O'No's myopic Prem only approach and Newcastle Château.  Cliques have formed at other English clubs when there has been a collection of foreigners all of the same nationality (or speak the same language, as per the African Francophones). 

So it is a risk.

As is giving a manager who has never signed his own players before so much to spend. 

Moan when we don't spend, moan when we do.  Moan moan moan.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2015, 02:31:25 PM by KevinGage »

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5330 on: July 29, 2015, 01:43:11 PM »

Wanyama is a bit rubbish. And they lost their centre forward, main centre back and attacking midfielder, which is all pretty Spiney.


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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5331 on: July 29, 2015, 01:45:39 PM »
Yes but they had a strong spine: clyne, fonte, schneiderlin, wanyama

We've lost ours

Not saying it won't work but it must be a risk / might take some adjusting to

Wanyama is a bit rubbish. And they lost their centre forward, main centre back and attacking midfielder, which is all pretty Spiney. 

Wanyama is very good...

They also replaced an ageing Lambert with Pelle (an upgrade), Lovren with Alderwield (an upgrade), Lallana with Tadic and Mane (an upgrade).

While I am excited by our signings we are currently probably in the position where we haven't really replaced Benteke and Gueye is something of an unknown quantity so may not be the answer to replacing Judas.

Having said that, Ayew, Richards and (hopefully) Veretout are all upgrades.

That's a good use of hindsight there but very few people were seeing that business as a bunch of upgrades at the time.

For me if we add Adebayor and Veretout I think the squad is stronger than last season.  If we can add a couple more youngsters to bring through slowly then I'll be very happy.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5332 on: July 29, 2015, 01:47:47 PM »
It is exciting but I am a bit concerned about integrating everyone - both footballing wise and into re group

I'm sure there'll be a lot of French spoken at BMH. We're also really short on dependable premier league experience. Really really short

Is there really something concrete which shows that "dependable premier league experience" helps keep teams up? Because it sounds to me like a lazy cliche trotted out because it seems like it should make sense. I mean, it sure didn't help keep QPR up last season. Personally, I think that players of such ilk often correlate too closely with half-arsed, middle-of-the-road veterans looking to attain themselves one last full contract from a PL team.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5333 on: July 29, 2015, 01:50:24 PM »
It is exciting but I am a bit concerned about integrating everyone - both footballing wise and into re group

I'm sure there'll be a lot of French spoken at BMH. We're also really short on dependable premier league experience. Really really short

My concern too.

Some of these players look like they would add the final flourish to an already solid core.

But we don't have that. 

There is a balance to be found between Martin O'No's myopic Prem only approach and Newcastle Château.  Cliques have formed at other English clubs when there has been a collection of foreigners all of the same nationality (or speak the same language, as per the African Francophones. 

So it is a risk.

As is giving a manager who has never signed his own players before so much to spend. 

Moan when we don't spend, moan when we do.  Moan moan moan.

For me Sherwood has acted more like an experienced football manager than Lambert did in his past two years. Or even McLeish for that matter. And not talking about signings but more about the staff he put together to help him in areas where he is inexperienced. That and Fox has acted to add to people to the club to help with the administration. Fox and Sherwood or Faulkner and Lambert?

As for player spend, Lambert was generally fine there when he spent decent money. The jury will be out any any purchase until we see them blend, and it doesn't have to happen immediately. It might take a few weeks. But the quality of acquisition is better, not from what we know but written by those who observe French or European football as profession. I hope the days of signing Bennett and Bowery are long past us.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5334 on: July 29, 2015, 01:56:27 PM »
Put it this way, Richards is a big upgrade on Vlaar, Amavi is a big upgrade on Cissokho, Gueye will probably be at least as good as Delph, we have Kozak back who will score goals along with a continually increasing number of options up front (so overall will be stronger there, especially when you consider Benteke was injured a lot), and I think players such as Sanchez, Gill and J Cole if he stays fit, will offer more than they did last season. Plus an emerging Grealish and a better manager and assistant. Sorry if I sound like I'm getting carried away but I really can't see us struggling at all next season.


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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5336 on: July 29, 2015, 02:12:41 PM »
I know we have a lot of Benteke money but does anyone else think that we are spending as though money isn't an issue?

I think we're spending like staying comfortably in the top division is the plan - for once.

with the new tv money kicking in next season, it is more important to stay up than it was before, hence the spending I would imagine. I notice that Middlesboro are also spending big, presumably gambling on getting promotion and gaining from the new found riches

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5337 on: July 29, 2015, 02:17:46 PM »
Im excited
Im loving these signings even If we are spending a bit . Great isnt it

beats signing the likes of shorey , harewood and Beye

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5338 on: July 29, 2015, 02:26:27 PM »
We finished seventeenth. Plenty of scope for improvement and promise too

But even in our good run last year we were shit at the back and benteke scored about 70% of our goals while the cleverly / Delph axis was crucial to getting on top of games

I haven't seen anything in pre season to suggest we've really figured out how we want to play yet either

I think he's making some excellent signings but the premier league is both an unforgiving and mediocre place - which makes it really hard to predict how we're going to do

Bournemouth a and Man U home isn't the start I'd wish for a team that's going to be somewhat thrown together at late notice

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5339 on: July 29, 2015, 02:29:48 PM »
Blimey Matt. When did you get into that machine from The Fly and become part Silhilvilla?

 


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