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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4170 on: July 20, 2015, 02:42:26 PM »
no, he came, he saw,  and he conquered from Belgium. It's got to be Obbi Oulare!

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4171 on: July 20, 2015, 02:59:18 PM »
If Austin had just had the season he has had in italy, Spain or even Holland, people on here would be boffing their pants over the youtube show reel of him.

But because he did it for unfashionable QPR, he's an over rated one season wonder.

Personally I thought his movement and finishing was outstanding last year and would love to see him sign.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4172 on: July 20, 2015, 03:04:08 PM »
If Austin had just had the season he has had in italy, Spain or even Holland, people on here would be boffing their pants over the youtube show reel of him.

But because he did it for unfashionable QPR, he's an over rated one season wonder.

Personally I thought his movement and finishing was outstanding last year and would love to see him sign.

Depends what you mean by that though. I think plenty of people would be skeptical if they heard we were being linked to a striker who, while scoring 18 goals in a good league like Spain or Italy, was being described as fairly limited outside of his ability to put the ball in the net.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4173 on: July 20, 2015, 03:07:37 PM »
If Austin had just had the season he has had in italy, Spain or even Holland, people on here would be boffing their pants over the youtube show reel of him.

But because he did it for unfashionable QPR, he's an over rated one season wonder.

Personally I thought his movement and finishing was outstanding last year and would love to see him sign.

I don't anyone is saying that, just raising it as a possibility.  The difference from him being Spanish or Italian is that we know a little more about the player.  I'd like to think that if his name was Carlos Austinio we'd raise the same concerns after doing a bit of research on him.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4174 on: July 20, 2015, 03:09:38 PM »
I think with the positon we're in at the minute, Austin is an obvious signing. We can afford him, he's as close to guaranteed performer as we can realistically get in a positon we really need stregnthening.

£15m is a lot for him, and he's over-priced and he is limited, but it's a vital area that could be the difference. I'd feel a lot more confident about staying up if we were to sign him as opposed to Adebayor or the 18 year old at Monaco.

Hypothetically speaking - say all of the strikers we're linked with signed for Villa tomorrow. Who would you back to score the most between by the end of the season? It'd be Austin every time for me.
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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4175 on: July 20, 2015, 03:22:46 PM »
If Austin had just had the season he has had in italy, Spain or even Holland, people on here would be boffing their pants over the youtube show reel of him.

But because he did it for unfashionable QPR, he's an over rated one season wonder.

Personally I thought his movement and finishing was outstanding last year and would love to see him sign.

I don't anyone is saying that, just raising it as a possibility.  The difference from him being Spanish or Italian is that we know a little more about the player.  I'd like to think that if his name was Carlos Austinio we'd raise the same concerns after doing a bit of research on him.

not much....

I think Austin would be a shit signing.
 


I'm inclined to agree.

In the summer of 2012, Yakubu had just scored 17 goals for Blackburn and Holt had scored 15 for Norwich. Lambert could easily have taken the easy route and gone with "well, we shouldn't take a risk and just spend our £7m on somebody who has proven they can score in the Premier League", but fortunately he didn't. I'm pretty certain that there were plenty of people at the time saying that we shouldn't be taking a risk in spending so much of our meagre budget on someone who hardly anybody had heard of.

Austin might not necessarily go on the same downward career spiral as the two examples at the top, but I'd be perfectly happy to take our chances on somebody who might be the next Benteke but might turn out to be less than that, over somebody that we know is going to be Charlie Austin.

Austin's PL experience is limited to one season.  One season wonder and found out next or does he have more to his game?

Just as long as that new striker isn't Charlie Austin who, every time I look at him, makes me think of Marcus Stewart.

Don't want Adebayor, don't want Austin. Overpriced and mediocre. They're only being touted because Sherwood knows the former personally, and the latter is one of a tiny number of English strikers who scored a goal in the Premier League last season.


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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4176 on: July 20, 2015, 03:23:33 PM »
At what point does 'overpriced' become the going rate?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4177 on: July 20, 2015, 03:24:41 PM »
At what point does 'overpriced' become the going rate?

At the point we are selling.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4178 on: July 20, 2015, 03:26:15 PM »
At what point does 'overpriced' become the going rate?

This is the other thing, players regularly go for £10-£15 million now.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4179 on: July 20, 2015, 03:27:35 PM »
If Austin had just had the season he has had in italy, Spain or even Holland, people on here would be boffing their pants over the youtube show reel of him.

But because he did it for unfashionable QPR, he's an over rated one season wonder.

Personally I thought his movement and finishing was outstanding last year and would love to see him sign.

I don't anyone is saying that, just raising it as a possibility.  The difference from him being Spanish or Italian is that we know a little more about the player.  I'd like to think that if his name was Carlos Austinio we'd raise the same concerns after doing a bit of research on him.

not much....

I think Austin would be a shit signing.
 


I'm inclined to agree.

In the summer of 2012, Yakubu had just scored 17 goals for Blackburn and Holt had scored 15 for Norwich. Lambert could easily have taken the easy route and gone with "well, we shouldn't take a risk and just spend our £7m on somebody who has proven they can score in the Premier League", but fortunately he didn't. I'm pretty certain that there were plenty of people at the time saying that we shouldn't be taking a risk in spending so much of our meagre budget on someone who hardly anybody had heard of.

Austin might not necessarily go on the same downward career spiral as the two examples at the top, but I'd be perfectly happy to take our chances on somebody who might be the next Benteke but might turn out to be less than that, over somebody that we know is going to be Charlie Austin.

Austin's PL experience is limited to one season.  One season wonder and found out next or does he have more to his game?

Just as long as that new striker isn't Charlie Austin who, every time I look at him, makes me think of Marcus Stewart.

Don't want Adebayor, don't want Austin. Overpriced and mediocre. They're only being touted because Sherwood knows the former personally, and the latter is one of a tiny number of English strikers who scored a goal in the Premier League last season.



Those quotes aren't particularly controversial, though. People who don't rate a player?

I think one criticism most people would have is that he errs towards the Bent a bit too much - ie doesn't do much outside the box.

I think for the right money, he'd be a decent signing, but I can also see where people are coming from if they don't rate him so much.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4180 on: July 20, 2015, 03:33:38 PM »
Strikers thrive on decent service - give Austin the right service, he scores! Simple really isn't it? Austin is a proven goalscorer in the PL. You can pay big bucks for a highly rated foreign player and he doesn't cut it in the PL.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4181 on: July 20, 2015, 03:38:09 PM »
At what point does 'overpriced' become the going rate?

Wasn't it the day Ellis sold up?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4182 on: July 20, 2015, 03:39:19 PM »
There was quite a lot of Liverpool fans who don't think Benteke is any good.

I understand peoples concerns on Austin, but given the season he's just had in an utterly shit team, I am hopeful he would also do well in our not quite so shit team.  I'd certainly like him ahead of Gabby and the other options (excluding Benteke) that we had last year

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4183 on: July 20, 2015, 03:44:42 PM »
There was quite a lot of Liverpool fans who don't think Benteke is any good.

I understand peoples concerns on Austin, but given the season he's just had in an utterly shit team, I am hopeful he would also do well in our not quite so shit team.  I'd certainly like him ahead of Gabby and the other options (excluding Benteke) that we had last year

You would think that he absolutely destroys them every time he plays them, would make them think he is a good player.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #4184 on: July 20, 2015, 03:45:25 PM »
Well good for you pal.

I still think he's shit though.

 


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