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Offline villan from luton

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3915 on: July 19, 2015, 12:23:56 AM »
Embolo really does look the bollocks on youtube, I'd be happy with him as the only incoming striker this summer and seeing if Gabby and Kozak can step up, if not look to get someone else in in Jan and try to move one or both of them on.

Same in midfield I think, Sign Praet and then see if Sanchez, Gueye, Praet, Westwood, Gardner and Grealish can form a decent unit between them.  If not look for replacements and move on the weaker links.

I'd quite like a genuine right winger and another right back (I'd let Hutton go and keep Bacuna as competition with the new guy)

So 4 signings to compete for starts would be ok by me (and maybe a couple of 18-19 year olds to give us some quality in reserve ready for when the likes of Senderos, Nzogbia and Cole all leave next summer). I think it's easy to go a bit crazy and start calling for 8-9 new starters but I don't think we can or should do that much business.
Regardless of whether we could do that amount of business, integrating more than 4 maybe 5 starters to create a well functioning / drilled team is problematic.

Benteke hasn't gone, but I can't help thinking how our starting XI would be looking like with him, Delph and Vlaar lining up with our new signings. 

If they want to go off, feck em and move on

Offline peter w

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3916 on: July 19, 2015, 12:25:30 AM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-plan-transfer-charlie-6093436?

"Aston Villa plan transfer of Charlie Austin from QPR using their Christian Benteke windfall

With £32.5m coming in after Liverpool met the Belgian's release clause Tim Sherwood is in a position to meet Hoops' £15m asking price

Aston Villa will move for Charlie Austin to replace Liverpool-bound striker Christian Benteke.

Boss Tim Sherwood hopes to use his relationship with QPR director of football Les Ferdinand, who he worked with at Tottenham, to smooth the way for a £15million deal that will leave Newcastle, Palace and Leicester disappointed.

Austin, 25, scored 18 goals in 35 appearances in his first year in the Premier League to force his way into Roy Hodgson’s England squad.

A move to Tyneside has stalled so far because the Geordies would not match QPR’s asking price.

But with £32.5m coming in after Benteke’s release clause was triggered by Liverpool plus a further £8m from Fabian Delph’s move to Man City, Sherwood wants to spend a sizeable lump of that on a new striker.

He has been keen on Spurs’ Emmanuel Adebayor but has so far failed to tie up a deal.

Elsewhere, the Villans have signed France U21 defender Jordan Amavi — French club Nice confirmed they had accepted a bid that could total £10m.

The left-back was left out of a friendly to come to the UK for a medical."


£10m yes £15m no

I'm not sold on Austin but we can't say to clubs 32.5 or nothing for our player and then quibble too much when another club says our valuation or nothing regarding their player.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2015, 12:31:22 AM by peter w »

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3917 on: July 19, 2015, 12:26:53 AM »
The Embolo video I've watched is here:



The encouraging thing is that he scored different types of goals so it's not like he's just quicker or stronger than the teams he's faced (by the looks of it he's both, and a lot more besides), he's just generally a level above them and ready to play in a much tougher league, for an 18 year old that's pretty impressive.  I'd be well happy with this, he's the right sort of target to be looking at to replace Benteke, much more so that Austin or Adebayor.

He looks good.

However, while I'm no expert on hip-hop, I'll give a million pounds to the next person to wank me off if the 'rapper' on that soundtrack isn't an annoying, middle-class, overweight white man with anger issues. The G has no flow.

I am that man, but am still aspiring to be middle class :-(

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3918 on: July 19, 2015, 12:28:46 AM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-plan-transfer-charlie-6093436?

"Aston Villa plan transfer of Charlie Austin from QPR using their Christian Benteke windfall

With £32.5m coming in after Liverpool met the Belgian's release clause Tim Sherwood is in a position to meet Hoops' £15m asking price

Aston Villa will move for Charlie Austin to replace Liverpool-bound striker Christian Benteke.

Boss Tim Sherwood hopes to use his relationship with QPR director of football Les Ferdinand, who he worked with at Tottenham, to smooth the way for a £15million deal that will leave Newcastle, Palace and Leicester disappointed.

Austin, 25, scored 18 goals in 35 appearances in his first year in the Premier League to force his way into Roy Hodgson’s England squad.

A move to Tyneside has stalled so far because the Geordies would not match QPR’s asking price.

But with £32.5m coming in after Benteke’s release clause was triggered by Liverpool plus a further £8m from Fabian Delph’s move to Man City, Sherwood wants to spend a sizeable lump of that on a new striker.

He has been keen on Spurs’ Emmanuel Adebayor but has so far failed to tie up a deal.

Elsewhere, the Villans have signed France U21 defender Jordan Amavi — French club Nice confirmed they had accepted a bid that could total £10m.

The left-back was left out of a friendly to come to the UK for a medical."


£10m yes £15m no

I'm not sold on Austin be can't say to clubs 32.5 or nothing for our player and then quibble too much when another club says our valuation or nothing regarding their player.

I read elsewhere that Sherwood don't want Austin and agree with you. I think we may get better value

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3919 on: July 19, 2015, 12:37:53 AM »
Austin scores goals, which without Benteke we might not! However, if we are going to play in a different style, then he may not be the answer. I quite like Wilson from Bournemouth but £10m seems quite high. Although if he were coming from abroad we would probably not be as concerned. Adebayor on a loan or cheap deal looks a safe bet for Sherwood due to their relationship. Him and a more untested, much younger option make sense.

More concerned with getting midfield and defence sorted.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3920 on: July 19, 2015, 12:43:57 AM »
For me Austin is a lot like Bent, he can score goals but that's all he does, last season he scored for fun but QPR as a whole were gash and his part in that can't be played down purely because of the goals he scored.

Adebayor has the potential to be a good player but I just don't trust him, too many times and for too many clubs he's half-arsed his way through important periods and looked every bit the mercenary his reputation suggests.

Both would bring goals, which is why they have any appeal but I don't think either is what we need.  Add the fee for one and the wages for the other into the mix and it just doesn't feel like a good idea.  I'd genuinely rather we pick up someone who comes in seeing us as a stepping-stone, it's frustrating when they leave but at least you get the sackful of cash to find a replacement, I'm fed up of us being a club who sees first team players leave every season for free or nominal fees and want to see any summer where we need to replace first-teamers become one where we get a replacement and 2-3 other decent players without spending any of our own money.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3921 on: July 19, 2015, 01:00:49 AM »
For me Austin is a lot like Bent, he can score goals but that's all he does, last season he scored for fun but QPR as a whole were gash and his part in that can't be played down purely because of the goals he scored.

Adebayor has the potential to be a good player but I just don't trust him, too many times and for too many clubs he's half-arsed his way through important periods and looked every bit the mercenary his reputation suggests.

Both would bring goals, which is why they have any appeal but I don't think either is what we need.  Add the fee for one and the wages for the other into the mix and it just doesn't feel like a good idea.  I'd genuinely rather we pick up someone who comes in seeing us as a stepping-stone, it's frustrating when they leave but at least you get the sackful of cash to find a replacement, I'm fed up of us being a club who sees first team players leave every season for free or nominal fees and want to see any summer where we need to replace first-teamers become one where we get a replacement and 2-3 other decent players without spending any of our own money.

Thing is we definitely need someone who is right at the top of their profession up front, and we're not in the market for that top of player, or we get someone in who has experience of the top flight in England. It's a tough call and one that could make or break Sherwood with us.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3922 on: July 19, 2015, 06:35:53 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3166673/Aston-Villa-look-loan-stars-James-Wilson-Patrick-Bamford-replace-Fabian-Delph-Christian-Benteke.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

"Aston Villa may look to loan stars such as James Wilson and Patrick Bamford to replace Fabian Delph and Christian Benteke
By LAURIE WHITWELL FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:31, 18 July 2015 | UPDATED: 22:31, 18 July 2015

Tim Sherwood will scour the loan market as part of his efforts to rebuild Aston Villa after the departures of Fabian Delph and Christian Benteke. Players such as James Wilson, the 19-year-old Manchester United striker, and Patrick Bamford, Chelsea’s 21-year-old forward, could be available. Sherwood is also keen on Emmanuel Adebayor, who he had success with at Tottenham, and Bournemouth striker Callum Wilson.
‘There will be players at other clubs where they want their players to go out and play some games,’ said Sherwood. ‘We can be that club.’
Villa completed the £10million signing of left back Jordan Amavi, 21, from Nice.
'He's someone we’ve been tracking for a long time,' said Sherwood.
'He’s dynamic, gets forward, had good delivery, and is a decent size for a left-back.
'He’s quick and aggressive and will be suited to the Premier League. He plays at a high tempo. French football is quite close to English.'


Happy with James Wilson, and Patrick Bamford

But no more loans .......We are not a feeder club



Sounds to me like we're not getting the Delph, Benteke money

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3923 on: July 19, 2015, 06:50:52 AM »
in which case we are well and truly fucked, but I don't believe for one moment that further investment won't be made.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3924 on: July 19, 2015, 06:51:04 AM »
For me Austin is a lot like Bent, he can score goals but that's all he does, last season he scored for fun but QPR as a whole were gash and his part in that can't be played down purely because of the goals he scored.

Adebayor has the potential to be a good player but I just don't trust him, too many times and for too many clubs he's half-arsed his way through important periods and looked every bit the mercenary his reputation suggests.

Both would bring goals, which is why they have any appeal but I don't think either is what we need.  Add the fee for one and the wages for the other into the mix and it just doesn't feel like a good idea.  I'd genuinely rather we pick up someone who comes in seeing us as a stepping-stone, it's frustrating when they leave but at least you get the sackful of cash to find a replacement, I'm fed up of us being a club who sees first team players leave every season for free or nominal fees and want to see any summer where we need to replace first-teamers become one where we get a replacement and 2-3 other decent players without spending any of our own money.

Thing is we definitely need someone who is right at the top of their profession up front, and we're not in the market for that top of player, or we get someone in who has experience of the top flight in England. It's a tough call and one that could make or break Sherwood with us.

I would sooner look for better targets. If forced between Austin and Adebayor then it would be Austin every day. At least his value could go up. Adebayor's will not and we just finished running down the contract of a proven 31 year old striker who was on high wages. It would be madness to sign another one right after.


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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3925 on: July 19, 2015, 07:24:27 AM »
Don't have any problem with Wilson and/or Bamford coming in on loan as a one season stopgap to supplement Kozak, providing that it means we're spending proper money everywhere else (we still could use a right winger and a CB - a 10 million player to fill both positions sounds good to me.)

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3926 on: July 19, 2015, 07:54:24 AM »
Austin and Kozac up front wouldn't be bad. Kozac if he can come back as strong as he was before the legbreak will score goals. I'm greedy now with all this money,  get Adebayor as well on some class of a deal that doesn't leave us too exposed if he decides that he's not interested. 

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3927 on: July 19, 2015, 07:55:46 AM »
I'd like to see Matt Phillips come in. Add another goal scorer (assuming Benteke is actually going) to supplement Kozak - wouldn't recommend Austin or loanees: get in someone whom we can develop and add value to; and another decent midfielder.
Job done.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3928 on: July 19, 2015, 08:01:24 AM »
Tbh, I wouldn't be counting our chickens where Kozac is concerned. He's coming back from a terrible injury and has suffered setbacks and not played for 17 months. That could go either way.

A loan deal and young up and coming quality to supplement him but with the view that whatever we'll get from Kozac now is a bonus.

Austin over Adeboyour no contest.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #3929 on: July 19, 2015, 08:15:02 AM »
For me Austin is a lot like Bent, he can score goals but that's all he does, last season he scored for fun but QPR as a whole were gash and his part in that can't be played down purely because of the goals he scored.

Adebayor has the potential to be a good player but I just don't trust him, too many times and for too many clubs he's half-arsed his way through important periods and looked every bit the mercenary his reputation suggests.

Both would bring goals, which is why they have any appeal but I don't think either is what we need.  Add the fee for one and the wages for the other into the mix and it just doesn't feel like a good idea.  I'd genuinely rather we pick up someone who comes in seeing us as a stepping-stone, it's frustrating when they leave but at least you get the sackful of cash to find a replacement, I'm fed up of us being a club who sees first team players leave every season for free or nominal fees and want to see any summer where we need to replace first-teamers become one where we get a replacement and 2-3 other decent players without spending any of our own money.

Adebayor has the potential to be a good player Paul? He was a good player in his youth for arsenal but that was some years ago. He is now in his thirties with more personal baggage than Tiger Woods and Antler combined! Not only that he will be unfit.God I hope we don't sign him on more than a short term loan.We may already may have one Billy Big Potatoes in Richards on the books,surely we don't want another one?

 


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