Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[KRS]

I'd be interested to know what you guys think what Townsends valuation is in the current market if you think £12m is too much for him? You should also consider and compare the valuations that are being placed on better and worse players than him.

He hasn't been a regular in the Spuds team this season, but he's still making the England squad and was briefly the new media darling when Bale left...dare I say it, but he's nowhere as bad as some of you are making him out to be. He's actually a decent player with skills, attacking intent, an eye for goal and would improve the team.

[cdbearsfan]

If you want to compare prices, a fairer one, fairer anyway than the laughable Weimann comparison, would be Young. Who actually plays in the same position as Townsend.

£9.6 million for a completely unproven player about three television deals ago. That turned out okay.

£12 million for Townsend is probably a bit steep, who cares though if he comes good? It's not our money, it's Sky/BT's.

[cdbearsfan]

Anyhow. We probably won't even bloody sign him after all this bickering!

I reserve the right to say I always agreed with Dave if he ends up signing for someone else!

[adrenachrome]

If you want to compare prices, a fairer one, fairer anyway than the laughable Weimann comparison, would be Young. Who actually plays in the same position as Townsend.

£9.6 million for a completely unproven player about three television deals ago. That turned out okay.

£12 million for Townsend is probably a bit steep, who cares though if he comes good? It's not our money, it's Sky/BT's.

The concept of Opportunity Cost has been relevant for centuries, even in these days of the death throws of the bankrupt, degenerate capitalist  system, and the same rules apply. 

[KRS]

Well this is what you get if we do sign Townsend...£12m is a fair price if you ask me.

[pauliewalnuts]

£12 million for Townsend is probably a bit steep, who cares though if he comes good? It's not our money, it's Sky/BT's.
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That's some amazingly twisted logic, there.

It is "our" money that we could spend better. We're currently still feeling the effects of the last bout of "who cares, there's loads of money" at the club.

[cdbearsfan]

Yeah but I'm bored of that mindset. We're not gonna go bust, are we? Even teams like Swansea are spending a fortune. Frugality is boring.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'd be interested to know what you guys think what Townsends valuation is in the current market if you think £12m is too much for him? You should also consider and compare the valuations that are being placed on better and worse players than him.

He hasn't been a regular in the Spuds team this season, but he's still making the England squad and was briefly the new media darling when Bale left...dare I say it, but he's nowhere as bad as some of you are making him out to be. He's actually a decent player with skills, attacking intent, an eye for goal and would improve the team.

re the "improve the team" thing.

Given how gobsmackingly shit we've been for five years, "he'd improve the team" is an argument almost totally without merit. So would lots and lots of players, but that doesn't mean they'd improve the team enough.

We can still improve quite a bit and remain totally unsatisfactory. We've just finished 17th.

For 12m, I'd expect "we'd improve a lot", not just "we'd improve".

Put it like this, we spend 12m on Townsend, how much money do you think we are then going to have left to improve the rest of the positions in the team?

[pauliewalnuts]

Yeah but I'm bored of that mindset. We're not gonna go bust, are we? Even teams like Swansea are spending a fortune. Frugality is boring.

I'm bored of it as well, I'm tired of the boring penny pinching, but unless you are thinking we'll be having a 60m splurge this summer, spending 12 on Townsend strikes me as insane.

I don't have a major issue with signing him, but for *12m*, really?

And FWIW, looking at the books, we could quite easily have gone bust.

[cdbearsfan]

Like I said, it's maybe a bit over. It'll be far from the most shocking price paid this summer though. If it works, we won't care about the fee. If it doesn't, we'll still recoup a fair chunk of it.

[paul_e]

Ok, lets counter that with a quick glance around europe.  So the assists and 10th top scorer in the eredivisie last season was a guy at Twente called Hakim Ziyech, I'll post a similar video of him:

No idea what he'd cost but I'd doubt it would be much different to Townsend, he's not got a full international cap but he's right on the verge of the squad so the chances are he'll go up in value massively over the next year or 2.

[Toronto Villa]

Lambert proved you can find good players without breaking the bank at inflated English prices. I don't mind Townsend but I certainly wouldn't pay £12m for him. The new TV money shouldn't be wasted on overpriced players. That's what fucked us up in the first place. It will be a huge positive step to show that we actually learnt from that.

[footyskillz]

Carlos Gill is better and was only 3.25 mil! Imagine a swap deal plus cash for Townsend . That's some perspective. I wouldn't pay more than £6 mil for Townsend. Maybe add ons up to 2mil so max is 8mil. But! As stated before we have gill and really hope Sherwood uses him the coming season.

[tomd2103]

Yes, but it's the suggestion that Townsend is worthy of being placed in that 12m bracket that concerns me, however much the television money.

The new tv money also doesn't kick in till the season after the upcoming one, either.

Let's not forget that Fulham paid £11m for Ross McCormack not too long ago.

[ChicagoLion]

12mil does not seem unreasonable in the current market but if it is a big part o our budget then we need better value.