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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2115 on: June 18, 2015, 11:53:51 PM »
Got to be honest I'd be massively underwhelmed if we spend that much money on Townsend.  He had, in my opinion, a couple of months of looking like a premier league class player and since then he's lived entirely on reputation.  6 goals and 5 assists in nearly 80 games does not make a £12m+ player.  I'd genuinely rather see us give Robinson a run in the team and I can't believe so many people are so happy with this link.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2116 on: June 18, 2015, 11:57:32 PM »
Got to be honest I'd be massively underwhelmed if we spend that much money on Townsend.  He had, in my opinion, a couple of months of looking like a premier league class player and since then he's lived entirely on reputation.  6 goals and 5 assists in nearly 80 games (at the top level) does not make a £12m+ player.  I'd genuinely rather see us give Robinson a run in the team and I can't believe so many people are so happy with this link.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2117 on: June 18, 2015, 11:59:01 PM »
Jesus Christ, I know we're linked with Townsend, but surely not to the extent of £12m?

That'd be shocking.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2118 on: June 19, 2015, 12:00:09 AM »
Robinson? He could come good but, based on what we know so far he wasn't  good enough to play for Preston in the third tier.

And he's a forward, not a winger, too.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2119 on: June 19, 2015, 12:00:47 AM »
Weimann's played up front. Loads.
Not since he was 20 years old and McLeish was our manager. He's spent the majority of his time with us cutting in from wide positions, just like Townsend does.

Townsend's a winger, who has played full back.
When was this that you're thinking of? I can't recall him ever being picked as a full-back.

Unless we're talking a very occasional O'Neill-style "we're losing 1-0 with ten minutes to go, let's stick a midfielder at full-back because more attacking players might mean we score" situation.

You're not comparing like with like, at all.
I'd say it's absolutely like with like. Two occasionally useful players who will come up with a great goal every ten matches and isn't quite good enough to stop us being in the bottom six.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2120 on: June 19, 2015, 12:01:37 AM »
Jesus Christ, I know we're linked with Townsend, but surely not to the extent of £12m?

That'd be shocking.

No big deal. £12 million under the new TV deal is worth about £7 million before.

Liverpool are trying to extort more than £50 million for Sterling.

Townsend's a snip by comparison.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2121 on: June 19, 2015, 12:03:09 AM »
Yes, but it's the suggestion that Townsend is worthy of being placed in that 12m bracket that concerns me, however much the television money.

The new tv money also doesn't kick in till the season after the upcoming one, either.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2122 on: June 19, 2015, 12:04:20 AM »
He might be ok for us but lets not forget rule 1. "Never do business with Levy at Spurs." He would end up mugging us for millions over a reasonable price. There are surely more exciting and better value players abroad.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2123 on: June 19, 2015, 12:04:24 AM »
I also have to say, Townsend as well as Richards would suggest we're looking at cornering that "loads of energy but a bit brainless with the ball, loads of passion English player" area of the market.

Which suggests not having learned the lessons of years gone by.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2124 on: June 19, 2015, 12:08:09 AM »
Liverpool are trying to extort more than £50 million for Sterling.

Townsend's a snip by comparison.
Sinclair for £2.5m is a snip by comparison.

Do you see Townsend as being worth nearly five times the price of Sinclair?

Townsend for £12m is a 2015 version of Reo-Coker. The going rate for English mediocrity.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2125 on: June 19, 2015, 12:08:50 AM »
Yes, but it's the suggestion that Townsend is worthy of being placed in that 12m bracket that concerns me, however much the television money.

The new tv money also doesn't kick in till the season after the upcoming one, either.

It's effectively kicked in now in that we're guaranteed shitloads even if we finish bottom. Which we won't.

Similarly, I read somewhere that Bournemouth and Watford are already among the forty wealthiest clubs in the World.

I reckon just about everyone will spend at least thirty million this year. Even us.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2126 on: June 19, 2015, 12:11:44 AM »
Well Sherwood has always openly been pro English players so I suppose its not surprising. Because we lived through the MON era we are probably more sensitive to the potential negative issues around buying British players than other fans.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2127 on: June 19, 2015, 12:11:46 AM »
Liverpool are trying to extort more than £50 million for Sterling.

Townsend's a snip by comparison.
Sinclair for £2.5m is a snip by comparison.

Do you see Townsend as being worth nearly five times the price of Sinclair?

Townsend for £12m is a 2015 version of Reo-Coker. The going rate for English mediocrity.

No. We got a good deal for Sinclair.

Reo-Coker could've been good, I reckon. So could the similarly over-priced Davies. Not that relevant to this discussion though.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2128 on: June 19, 2015, 12:13:55 AM »
Liverpool are trying to extort more than £50 million for Sterling.

Townsend's a snip by comparison.
Sinclair for £2.5m is a snip by comparison.

Do you see Townsend as being worth nearly five times the price of Sinclair?

Townsend for £12m is a 2015 version of Reo-Coker. The going rate for English mediocrity.

No. We got a good deal for Sinclair.
Great, well in which case let's go and get more good deals like that then rather than be taken to the cleaners by fackin' Spurs.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2129 on: June 19, 2015, 12:14:59 AM »
Oh, and Townsend has twice as long left on his current contract as, respectively, Weimann or Sinclair had remaining at Villa/Man City. Which will clearly influence the value.

 


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