Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[footyskillz]

Yes deep lying defence would have this offside issue. The alternative to a higher line that pushes up. But say having hud there to ping passes out would be more effective than game passing him by in midfield. I think he's actually played in defence too? I wouldn't trust in a two even if deep but three and him as spare man say Richards/okra and Clarke/baker either side. Westy then keeps his position gards can be in there with delph. Get Phillips qpr before baggies do for say £5 mil plus nzog or something. Add in Bamford or drogba as falcao at Chelsea along with Wilson from man u then that's lovely

You're suggesting we sign Matt Phillips for £5m and give them N'Zogbia?

Ok sounds far fetched to you? The suggestion is based on wba supposed linkage at 7mil. Nzogbia at 2 to 2.5 mil is how I see his value. That's decreasing. Plus will be off wage bill. Matty Phillips assist machine is up and coming can play wide as well as off front man. Pacey and plays both wings. To me bringing this guy in fir inconsistent nzogbia,did it at Wigan no where else, would be good business.

I imagine we disagree on value of nzogbia rather than Phillips undoubted qualities. Check out matt Phillips. Stats as well as performing well in a losing team. Shows character and that's what we need.

[RussellC]

One thing that needs to be noted too - whatever amount of money there is available (disregarding any potential sale of Benteke), Sherwood would have been hoping to have been able to spend on simply improving the squad he inherited. He now finds himself in the likely position of having to stretch it to replace Vlaar and Cleverley, against his wishes. IN terms of transfer-fees, we're realistically looking at circa £15m to adequately replace the 2 of them, which is probably why we're now being linked with less expensive signings in other areas.

[Clampy]

Yes deep lying defence would have this offside issue. The alternative to a higher line that pushes up. But say having hud there to ping passes out would be more effective than game passing him by in midfield. I think he's actually played in defence too? I wouldn't trust in a two even if deep but three and him as spare man say Richards/okra and Clarke/baker either side. Westy then keeps his position gards can be in there with delph. Get Phillips qpr before baggies do for say £5 mil plus nzog or something. Add in Bamford or drogba as falcao at Chelsea along with Wilson from man u then that's lovely

You're suggesting we sign Matt Phillips for £5m and give them N'Zogbia?

Ok sounds far fetched to you? The suggestion is based on wba supposed linkage at 7mil. Nzogbia at 2 to 2.5 mil is how I see his value. That's decreasing. Plus will be off wage bill. Matty Phillips assist machine is up and coming can play wide as well as off front man. Pacey and plays both wings. To me bringing this guy in fir inconsistent nzogbia,did it at Wigan no where else, would be good business.

I imagine we disagree on value of nzogbia rather than Phillips undoubted qualities. Check out matt Phillips. Stats as well as performing well in a losing team. Shows character and that's what we need.

Like you said, £7m is a supposed value. He's not worth that at all. Paying QPR money for him and giving them one of our players is just madness. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't move at all.

[Dave]

Yes deep lying defence would have this offside issue. The alternative to a higher line that pushes up. But say having hud there to ping passes out would be more effective than game passing him by in midfield.

"The offside issue" isn't really something to just brush under the carpet. It's the reason why nobody has tried playing with a sweeper for around 25 years.

If we decide to start doing it and use Huddlestone there, we would be ripped apart.

[Dave]

Ok sounds far fetched to you? The suggestion is based on wba supposed linkage at 7mil. Nzogbia at 2 to 2.5 mil is how I see his value. That's decreasing. Plus will be off wage bill.

Why would N'Zogbia agree to this? Why would he want to drop down a division and presumably take a much lower salary than we would be paying him next season?

[RussellC]

£7m for Matt Phillips is probably a very realistic value. QPR paid £5m for him, and his contract runs until June 2017. At 24, he’s 5 years younger than N’Zogbia and recorded 3 goals and 8 assists last season (in 25 games), against CNZ’s 0 goals and 2 assists (in 27 games). With the money floating around the Premiership at the moment, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if somebody came in and pad £7m or more for Phillips this summer. On the other hand, I’d be amazed if somebody came in and offered us more than £2million for N’Zogbia.

As for a switch to QPR, N’Zogbia’s always struck me as somebody who’s off field lifestyle was equally important as his playing career. Therefore I’d imagine London would be a big draw. He’ll also realise that he’s unlikely to win a new contract at Villa after this year, so a 2/3 year contract, albeit on a reduced wage, might be a feasible proposition.

I’m not saying it’s likely to happen, but it’s certainly not the most outlandish suggestion on this thread!

[Boz]

If Huddlestone is the answer, then the question must surely be...
Whose the one player that should never play for Villa !

I'm nervous that Timmy thinks he can resurrect another Spurs career, a la Adebeyour, but clearly (to us anyway) Huddlestone is too far gone to be saved.

Totally agree, Huddlestone is a massive step backwards.

[tomd2103]

If Huddlestone is the answer, then the question must surely be...
Whose the one player that should never play for Villa !

I'm nervous that Timmy thinks he can resurrect another Spurs career, a la Adebeyour, but clearly (to us anyway) Huddlestone is too far gone to be saved.

Totally agree, Huddlestone is a massive step backwards.

I wouldn't say he would be a massive 'step backwards' from Westwood and Sanchez.  If we sold one of those two and brought him in for a similar price, I don't think it would be the worst piece of business we have ever done.   

[Tom_Mc9?]

I don't think Huddlestone's that good, but reading this makes it looks like we're after a Sunday League player.

[Mister E]

£7m for Matt Phillips is probably a very realistic value. QPR paid £5m for him, and his contract runs until June 2017. At 24, he’s 5 years younger than N’Zogbia and recorded 3 goals and 8 assists last season (in 25 games), against CNZ’s 0 goals and 2 assists (in 27 games). With the money floating around the Premiership at the moment, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if somebody came in and pad £7m or more for Phillips this summer. On the other hand, I’d be amazed if somebody came in and offered us more than £2million for N’Zogbia.

As for a switch to QPR, N’Zogbia’s always struck me as somebody who’s off field lifestyle was equally important as his playing career. Therefore I’d imagine London would be a big draw. He’ll also realise that he’s unlikely to win a new contract at Villa after this year, so a 2/3 year contract, albeit on a reduced wage, might be a feasible proposition.

I’m not saying it’s likely to happen, but it’s certainly not the most outlandish suggestion on this thread!

Exactly my thoughts on Phillips and NZog - I'd welcome a deal that sent each in the opposite direction.

[Clampy]

£7m for Matt Phillips is probably a very realistic value. QPR paid £5m for him, and his contract runs until June 2017. At 24, he’s 5 years younger than N’Zogbia and recorded 3 goals and 8 assists last season (in 25 games), against CNZ’s 0 goals and 2 assists (in 27 games). With the money floating around the Premiership at the moment, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if somebody came in and pad £7m or more for Phillips this summer. On the other hand, I’d be amazed if somebody came in and offered us more than £2million for N’Zogbia.

As for a switch to QPR, N’Zogbia’s always struck me as somebody who’s off field lifestyle was equally important as his playing career. Therefore I’d imagine London would be a big draw. He’ll also realise that he’s unlikely to win a new contract at Villa after this year, so a 2/3 year contract, albeit on a reduced wage, might be a feasible proposition.

I’m not saying it’s likely to happen, but it’s certainly not the most outlandish suggestion on this thread!

Exactly my thoughts on Phillips and NZog - I'd welcome a deal that sent each in the opposite direction.

Now that's slightly different. Paying £5m on top of that is just a mad idea.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Is N'zogbia not out of contract?

[Richard E]

Is N'zogbia not out of contract?

No, he is not.

[Malandro]

Is N'zogbia not out of contract?

unfortunately he's still on the books

[Phil from the upper holte]

Fuck sake, was looking forward to the end of him