Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[silhillvilla]

Good. We've agreed he's better than westwood .

No we haven't. The clue is where I said "inferior players like Huddlestone".  If we're going to get better then Westwood probably shouldn't be a first-choice player. But Huddlestone gives us nothing other than more midfielders who aren't quite good enough.

He gives more than westwood though.

He didn't for Hull last season, did he?

I don't think that's the point,

[passitsideways]

Good. We've agreed he's better than westwood .

No we haven't. The clue is where I said "inferior players like Huddlestone".  If we're going to get better then Westwood probably shouldn't be a first-choice player. But Huddlestone gives us nothing other than more midfielders who aren't quite good enough.

He gives more than westwood though.

He didn't for Hull last season, did he?

I don't think that's the point,

No, it's the complete fucking point, because you have to go on the basis of what have you done for me lately. He spent all season being a massively useless twat for a team who got relegated. How is that "giving more than Westwood"? Sure, Westwood wasn't all that much better, but it simply speaks of how little Huddlestone gives you when he isn't in the mood.

[CT Villan]

If Huddlestone is the answer, then the question must surely be...
Whose the one player that should never play for Villa !

I'm nervous that Timmy thinks he can resurrect another Spurs career, a la Adebeyour, but clearly (to us anyway) Huddlestone is too far gone to be saved.

[Dante Lavelli]

Good. We've agreed he's better than westwood .
But yes , let's hope sherwood has set his targets higher and the budget allows

Our priority should be a replacement for Cleverly not a marginally better/worse (depending in your opinion) replacement for Westwood.

Personally I think Westwood is a better player, more mobile and has the ability to graft and play in our high energy pressing/buzzing style.  The Hud cannot play in this system and I think his MOTD highlights reel hides the fact that he is often not involved in games at all.

[Dante Lavelli]

No, it's the complete fucking point, because you have to go on the basis of what have you done for me lately. He spent all season being a massively useless twat for a team who got relegated. How is that "giving more than Westwood"? Sure, Westwood wasn't all that much better, but it simply speaks of how little Huddlestone gives you when he isn't in the mood.

It is very close whether he is better or worse than Westwood and I don't think anyone could categorically call it either way.  What is substantially different is the wages each earn.  I'd guess the Hud is probably on double what Westwood earns and we also have the under used Sanchez in the squad too.

[Villa in Denmark]

The only way we should be looking at Huddlestone is if the North Stand redevelopment is going ahead and we're lacking a decent foundation stone.  That kind of job would suit his mobility.

[Damo70]

I think Huddlestone is decent enough. No world beater but decent enough. But he was poor last season and didn't play to anywhere near his best, like a number of Hull players.

[in exile]

No way is he going to improve us - simple as

[footyskillz]

Acctually hud as a deep lying attacking defender would be interesting. As a sweeper played him  in back three then that's a creative expression of his talents. Leave the other central deenders either side

[Clampy]

Huddlestone in a back three is not a very good idea at all and a scary one.

[silhillvilla]

Acctually hud as a deep lying attacking defender would be interesting. As a sweeper played him  in back three then that's a creative expression of his talents. Leave the other central deenders either side

Wouldn't he end up playing people onside all the time ?
For me he's more a centre mid player a bit like Jan Molby was , good passer and vision .

[footyskillz]

Yes deep lying defence would have this offside issue. The alternative to a higher line that pushes up. But say having hud there to ping passes out would be more effective than game passing him by in midfield. I think he's actually played in defence too? I wouldn't trust in a two even if deep but three and him as spare man say Richards/okra and Clarke/baker either side. Westy then keeps his position gards can be in there with delph. Get Phillips qpr before baggies do for say £5 mil plus nzog or something. Add in Bamford or drogba as falcao at Chelsea along with Wilson from man u then that's lovely

[Clampy]

Yes deep lying defence would have this offside issue. The alternative to a higher line that pushes up. But say having hud there to ping passes out would be more effective than game passing him by in midfield. I think he's actually played in defence too? I wouldn't trust in a two even if deep but three and him as spare man say Richards/okra and Clarke/baker either side. Westy then keeps his position gards can be in there with delph. Get Phillips qpr before baggies do for say £5 mil plus nzog or something. Add in Bamford or drogba as falcao at Chelsea along with Wilson from man u then that's lovely

You're suggesting we sign Matt Phillips for £5m and give them N'Zogbia?

[Broadlee]

I don't usually reply to posts i enjoy (sometimes) reading the views of you passionate guys.
The point i am about to make surrounds Tom Cleverly and Tim Sherwood / K Mac
The Cleverly player I watched prior to TS  joining was poor, he got ripped apart on here for playing, well as Huddlestone has been described. basically poor....The transformation of several players in a short time gives encouragement that both TS and K Mac can manage and coach the best from that available. Long may that continue.
If TS has chosen to acquire Tom Huddlestone then give the man some credit in his ability to spot a players strengths and weaknesses and knows whether that player has what he wants for his team.
its obvious that AV cannot shop around at the Harrods level for players, we cannot buy titles and cups like our so called Top 4. the next best thing is to have a team of known ability in key areas and experiment with younger talent around the fringes hoping that a diamond will emerge.
At £5 million I think Hull are hoping someone will pay that but I doubt AV would offer that sum, more like 2 to 3.
I hope TS chooses well, at the moment I see him looking at people he believes he can trust to do a job. Too many at Wembley didn't.

[footyskillz]

I don't usually reply to posts i enjoy (sometimes) reading the views of you passionate guys.
The point i am about to make surrounds Tom Cleverly and Tim Sherwood / K Mac
The Cleverly player I watched prior to TS  joining was poor, he got ripped apart on here for playing, well as Huddlestone gas been described. basically poor....The transformation of several players in a short time gives encouragement that both TS and K Mac can manage and coach the best from that available. Long may that continue.
If TS has chosen to acquire Tom Huddlestone then give the man some credit in his ability to spot a players strengths and weaknesses and knows whether that player has what he wants for his team.
its obvious that AV cannot shop around at the Harrods level for players, we cannot buy titles and cups like our so called Top 4. the next best thing is to have a team of known ability in key areas and experiment with younger talent around the fringes hoping that a diamond will emerge.
At £5 million I think Hull are hoping someone will pay that but I doubt AV would offer that sum, more like 2 to 3.
I hope TS chooses well, at the moment I see him looking at people he believes he can trust to do a job. Too many at Wembley didn't.

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