Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[footyskillz]

Any way funily enough I came on here to say my transfer research was kinda done by some others with a list of players ... Manybinwould have recomened .There's a thread already put up so I think I can put my summer holidays to other uses plus enjoy the cops america and Euros and chip in with a few players here and there. Also new ownership will make things very exciting .

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

Erm, not sure where to put this:-

Fulham midfielder Ryan Tunnicliffe has been charged by the FA with 'aggravated misconduct by reference to sexual orientation' as a result of this tweet after the playoff final.

“Happy that Middlesbrough didn’t go up, just for the main fact that @Patrick_Bamford is a sausage boy.”

This is transfer rumours and speculation not sexual orientation speculation. I think the gossip isn't even gossip. Let him be whoever he wants. What any issue is more that Tunnicliffe hurtful comments. No need for that they can make an example of him which I hope you were doing byb posting rather than idle gossip. What year is thisn2015 !!! Some people !! Esp footballers need to be better educated and respectful.

Can't argue with that.

[Richard E]

Erm, not sure where to put this:-

Fulham midfielder Ryan Tunnicliffe has been charged by the FA with 'aggravated misconduct by reference to sexual orientation' as a result of this tweet after the playoff final.

“Happy that Middlesbrough didn’t go up, just for the main fact that @Patrick_Bamford is a sausage boy.”

This is transfer rumours and speculation not sexual orientation speculation. I think the gossip isn't even gossip. Let him be whoever he wants. What any issue is more that Tunnicliffe hurtful comments. No need for that they can make an example of him which I hope you were doing byb posting rather than idle gossip. What year is thisn2015 !!! Some people !! Esp footballers need to be better educated and respectful.

More seriously, on the assumption this is true the FA should throw the book at Tunnicliffe. It's no wonder footballers are afraid to come out.

[dave.woodhall]

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I think in the main they were squad players. Given the massive underinvestment under Ellis it was a case of trying to build a squad  from a very low base.

Blimey that's a claim and a half right there fella...

Compared to the comparative under investment by Randy, apart from maybe the first part of his reign ... Doug was like Abramovich

Remember Dougs net worth was not likley to be anything near Randy's was / is and the income from TV rights just crumbs compared to what it is now.

In comparison...we didn't do to badly out of Doug...the more accurate criticism is that we missed opportunities by not investing that little bit more at important points in his tenure as chairman.

Comparing Doug Ellis to Abramovich in terms of largesse!! Have I landed in a parallel universe?

Brilliant, an Ellis debate. Can I join in?

[Richard E]

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I think in the main they were squad players. Given the massive underinvestment under Ellis it was a case of trying to build a squad  from a very low base.

Blimey that's a claim and a half right there fella...

Compared to the comparative under investment by Randy, apart from maybe the first part of his reign ... Doug was like Abramovich

Remember Dougs net worth was not likley to be anything near Randy's was / is and the income from TV rights just crumbs compared to what it is now.

In comparison...we didn't do to badly out of Doug...the more accurate criticism is that we missed opportunities by not investing that little bit more at important points in his tenure as chairman.

Comparing Doug Ellis to Abramovich in terms of largesse!! Have I landed in a parallel universe?

Brilliant, an Ellis debate. Can I join in?

<opens the popcorn and relaxes back in chair>

[cdward]

One of the more reliable transfer rumour accounts on Twitter says McCarthy has asked to leave Everton. If true, would hope we at least try and get him.

We finally get to sign Benni McCarthy, when is Carlton Palmer coming?

[Lobsterboy]

One of the more reliable transfer rumour accounts on Twitter says McCarthy has asked to leave Everton. If true, would hope we at least try and get him.

We finally get to sign Benni McCarthy, when is Carlton Palmer coming?

It's not Benni we're signing; it's Mick... he's Concrete Ron's replacement

[Percy McCarthy]

One of the more reliable transfer rumour accounts on Twitter says McCarthy has asked to leave Everton. If true, would hope we at least try and get him.

*issues 'come and get me' plea*

[eamonn]

McCarthy? Just a slight-upgrade on Westwood. I think we'd get the shitty end of the stick, them taking Cleverley off us and leave us with McCarthy.

[ozzjim]

I think he would be a better holding option than Westwood, but not at the 15 million they will want for him!

[old man villa fan]

From BBC:
Aston Villa striker Darren Bent, 31, has sent a farewell message to the club's fans on Instagram  after joining Derby County permanently. "Thank you to the fans who have stuck by me through hard times. It has been a pleasure to play for you," it reads.

If only it had been Bent instead of Heskey.  The slide started with the purchase of Heskey and managers thinking teamwork/effort made up for lack of goals.

Don't think Bent would have improved matters too much as it would have forced the same tactical change that Heskey brought about i.e. dropping a midfielder and exposing Barry and Petrov's lack of mobility. That was the time for a classy number ten to come in as a different option.

Re the signings mentioned by the OP, Reo Coker and Sidwell were widely welcomed. Reo Coker I'd argue did a good job for us and Houllier was keen to keep him on, he has very badly advised. Sidwell was awful and like many of that Reading side he never amounted to much elsewhere.

Shorey, Harewood, Heskey were woeful lazy signings that no-one wanted. Beye, Cuellar, Warnock - three completely unnecessary signings too especially for the wages/ transfer fees they commanded.

Heskey was brought in for the fading Carew.

The bigger problem wasn't that we purchased players to fill out the squad, it's that we did it the wrong way round.  If you've got plenty of money to spend you make 2 types of signings, players who improve your best 11 or youngsters who are backup but have the potential to improve the first team over the next 2-3 seasons.  Filling out the squad by buying aging players who aren't quite as good as the players in front of them is a waste of money because you're buying players that you have no intention of playing unless there's injuries, you can fill that need with 17-22 year olds from your youth system who are paid peanuts (comparatively) and don't have a fee associated to them.  On top of that if they never make the step up but do manage a few games where they look good enough for the league below you can usually get a bit of cash for them after a few years, probably covering most of the wages they cost.

To give a simple example mon bought Lichaj and Beye, the former was practically free and probably on about £5k p/w the latter was £2.5m and 40k p/w and they did basically the same job as cover at fullback and when they came into the team there was little difference in quality.

100% agree.

Also MON saw Heskey as a replacement for Carew when everybody knew that his best years (Leicester/Liverpool) had long gone and he had changed his style of play.  There was a classic case of going out and buying somebody better or at least their equal.  People said that Heskey was a team player but when you needed a goalscorer, he was the last player you wanted.

[KevinGage]

Any way funily enough I came on here to say my transfer research was kinda done by some others with a list of players ... Manybinwould have recomened .There's a thread already put up so I think I can put my summer holidays to other uses plus enjoy the cops america and Euros and chip in with a few players here and there. Also new ownership will make things very exciting .

You are contracting the work out?

That Manybinwould chap is a talented guy, by all accounts.  Better than Tony Carr at West Ham.  Exciting times.

[paul_e]

I honestly don't rate McCarthy at all, I don't even think he'd be an upgrade on Westwood, huge no from me, not what we need at all.

[passitsideways]

I think the thing that separates McCarthy from Westwood is his athleticism: he's much quicker off the mark and can afford to be far more aggressive with his pressing and such. I think he's a little more comfortable in attacking areas as well.

Still, I'm pretty sure the reason why he'd be at odds with Everton would be that he wants to take a step up, not down (which is unfortunately where we are currently compared to Everton.)

[KevinGage]

Aye, not that we'd be of much interest to him now (sadly) if he's looking for a step up from Everton, but he's exactly the type of player we could do with.

Would be an instant upgrade on Westwood and Cleverley.