Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[silhillvilla]

I do feel Weimann has been played consistently out of position at villa. I would of liked to have seen him have a run as a centre forward but it never happened not even in the cup games. He's certainly not a wide midfielder or a "number 10" type player.

[brontebilly]

Derby County: Aston Villa forward Andreas Weimann on Rams radar

Fingers crossed this is true and a deal can be done.

The Telegraph saying that Derby will offer £2m for Weimann.

As a centre forward I reckon he's ok .

Yep, he would be a big hit in the Championship.  Played up front in a front two, he would do well in that league.

If we'd gone down this season (or any of the last few seasons in fact) then Weimann would have been fine as our striker to try and go back up again.

It's just that he's not quite good enough for the league that we're thankfully in.

Anywhere between £3-5m would be a very decent deal for a wealthy Championship side.

Think Andi only has 12 months left on his current deal so we don't have much bargaining power

Finished Lambert's first season really strongly 12 goals in 38 appearances was good going. Never built on that though, put on a pile of weight the season after and has never really recovered his form.

Wish him the best if the move works out, he needs proper forwards coaching to improve imo

[tomd2103]

Derby County: Aston Villa forward Andreas Weimann on Rams radar

Fingers crossed this is true and a deal can be done.

The Telegraph saying that Derby will offer £2m for Weimann.

As a centre forward I reckon he's ok .

Yep, he would be a big hit in the Championship.  Played up front in a front two, he would do well in that league.

If we'd gone down this season (or any of the last few seasons in fact) then Weimann would have been fine as our striker to try and go back up again.

It's just that he's not quite good enough for the league that we're thankfully in.

Anywhere between £3-5m would be a very decent deal for a wealthy Championship side.

Agree Dave.  If he's fit and sharp, he'll do well at that level.  As you say though, he just lacks that all round bit of quality required for the top flight. 

[ozzjim]

£2m with a couple of add ons etc for promotion/ sell ons seems fair enough to me. Not sad to see him go after the last 2 seasons, missed more than he has scored, or looked pretty out of his depth at times. As Dave says, will do well in the Championship.

[pauliewalnuts]

Just reading a Derby forum and they're talking about Jeff Hendrick (who he?) coming here as part of the deal.

[Dave]

Just reading a Derby forum and they're talking about Jeff Hendrick (who he?) coming here as part of the deal.

Supposed to be pretty decent. Box-to-box, runs around a lot, quite young.

Probably the sort of player that would be the Cleverley replacement if he doesn't join permanently.

[ozzjim]

We looked at him 2 seasons back when Lambert was here I recall. Irish midfield player that scored a few goals last season.

[manic-road]

Looks like Bent may well end up at Derby by signing a three year deal.

[cdbearsfan]

Are we saying Weimann is worth more than him or the other way round? Cos if it's a player that a bottling second tier club are happy to let go, and is worth less than Weimann, surely he can't be much cop?

If we're talking about gaining a potential star and offering Weimann as part of the deal, that's entirely different.

[brontebilly]

Just reading a Derby forum and they're talking about Jeff Hendrick (who he?) coming here as part of the deal.

Supposed to be pretty decent. Box-to-box, runs around a lot, quite young.

Probably the sort of player that would be the Cleverley replacement if he doesn't join permanently.

Exactly, would be a good signing for us. Occasion at recent Scotland v Ireland game in Glasgow was too much for him. Did well when he came on in Germany tho setting up equaliser in last minute.

[ozzjim]

I reckon we would be paying the other way round looking at the way he has been touted as a star of their side.

[cdbearsfan]

I reckon we would be paying the other way round looking at the way he has been touted as a star of their side.

Ah, I understand. Thanks OJ.

[Matt Collins]

http://m.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-Aston-Villa-West-Bromwich-Albion/story-26457442-detail/story.html

Link here. Missed this one at the time

I think he'd be backup with Gardner? Risky otherwise

[old man villa fan]

I was going to raise the point about the need to look at players weaknesses rather than their strengths to assess the need in replacing them.  Interestingly, two posters have mentioned it in the last few pages, one agreeing and one disagreeing.

I believe you have to look at the weaknesses as it is this that defines the overall strength of the team.  Football is a very tactical game and many managers will build their game plan around the opposition weaknesses.  Defensive weaknesses are the ones you have to cut out first unless you can guarantee outscoring most teams.  Benteke looks as though he could be a prolific scorer throughout his career but, even if we could keep him, he does not score enough on his own to make up for a team that concedes so many and buckles so easily.  There are so many frailties in the defensive side of our game, some can be put right with tactics/systems but many are due to individual player weaknesses.

Take Richard Dunne as an example.  Everybody knew that he always had that 'drop a b******' moment in him but his strengths outweighed this to make him a player good enough for a 6-10 PL team but not good enough for top 5.

Fans always have their favourites and sometimes this can be based on effort put in, actual quality and even cult status when the player is not actually any good.  To improve the Villa team sentiment and ignoring glaring weaknesses a player brings to the team just because individually he does some good things, have to be put to one side, otherwise we will never improve.

Take the midfield of Cleverley, Westwood and Delph as an example.  Good going forward at times but very poor at tracking back, weak in the tackle and poor at defending set-pieces.  Therefore, at least one of them has to be replaced to remedy the deficiencies in the defensive side of the midfield.

We have too many average players in my opinion and Sherwood has a difficult task and will upset many supporters with who he moves on.

Some are talking about limited funding being available if Lerner does not sell based on previous experience.  Lerner may not want to invest any more money in the club but we are one year away from a massive increase in TV income that will push all PL clubs further away from the majority of foreign clubs and allow better quality foreign players to be bought.  The time to invest that future income for Villa is now.  Lerner is not short of money and he could easily loan a significant amount or we could borrow the money from external sources until we receive the extra income.  There is a risk that we could get relegated and leave us in difficult financial problems but I am afraid if significant investment is not made now, the risk of going down will be far greater.  Bear in mind that most of the cost of a player these days is in wages and this is paid over the term of the contract.  Similarly, many transfers are based on a down-payment with the remainder paid later.  Taking both into account, most of the expenditure will be after the new TV deal.  The real issue is liquidity and getting around this.

[ROBBO]

What stood out in the Arsenal game was their control of the ball compare that with most of the Villa team and the difference is glaring, the only player we have that has that kind of skill is Gil and the manager doesn't rate him, i'm worried.