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Author Topic: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions  (Read 1108917 times)

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #555 on: May 19, 2015, 10:58:04 AM »
Taylor or Robertson for left back would sort us in that position. Though the other week Robertson was valued at 12 mill. For that price no way, but if Hull go down, if we could get him for half that, we'd be doing well.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #556 on: May 19, 2015, 11:02:48 AM »
Taylor or Robertson for left back would sort us in that position. Though the other week Robertson was valued at 12 mill. For that price no way, but if Hull go down, if we could get him for half that, we'd be doing well.
He only seems to have played around half of Hull's matches this season and doesn't seem to have been injured. Just not picked.

What about Ben Davies? Was good enough to keep the much-praised Neil Taylor out of the Swansea team last season, was good enough to warrant Spurs paying £10m for him and hasn't really featured for them.

I still think it's worth persevering with another season of Cissokho. Pretty much every other player has picked up their game since Lambert left, he's one the only ones who hasn't had the opportunity to show whether he is able to do that same.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #557 on: May 19, 2015, 11:07:25 AM »
I actually think there is a player in Cissokho. Looking at the fees paid for him in the past he has been a decent player and when he first came he got forward really well. I do hope he gets a full game at the weekend.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #558 on: May 19, 2015, 11:14:57 AM »
Taylor or Robertson for left back would sort us in that position. Though the other week Robertson was valued at 12 mill. For that price no way, but if Hull go down, if we could get him for half that, we'd be doing well.
He only seems to have played around half of Hull's matches this season and doesn't seem to have been injured. Just not picked.

What about Ben Davies? Was good enough to keep the much-praised Neil Taylor out of the Swansea team last season, was good enough to warrant Spurs paying £10m for him and hasn't really featured for them.

I still think it's worth persevering with another season of Cissokho. Pretty much every other player has picked up their game since Lambert left, he's one the only ones who hasn't had the opportunity to show whether he is able to do that same.
Davies would be good but Spurs won't sell cheaply I don't think.
I'd be happy to keep Cissokho as an option as he's at least reasonably sound defensively. Richardson just gets a lot of injuries and though TS seems to rate him, I can't see him managing much more than 20 games next season. So we most definitely need to buy another option.
I think because Bruce has changed system a few times, Robertson has been in and out. He tends to play wing back more I think, while Figeurora steps in for a flat back four. So that would possibly leave question marks on Robertson defensively I suppose.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #559 on: May 19, 2015, 11:22:23 AM »
Hasn't Taylor got a pretty poor record when it comes to injuries?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #560 on: May 19, 2015, 11:25:15 AM »
I think because Bruce has changed system a few times, Robertson has been in and out. He tends to play wing back more I think, while Figeurora steps in for a flat back four. So that would possibly leave question marks on Robertson defensively I suppose.
I'd say so - if it's thought that he isn't defensively strong enough to play in a back four for Hull, I'd be concerned about his suitability to do so for us.

It's not as if Sherwood has shown any inclination to play something other than a normal back four.

Besides, we've got our own "defensively ropey but gets forward well" left back in Bennett without spending more money on another one.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #561 on: May 19, 2015, 11:54:25 AM »
I do wonder where Bennett fits in. He just didn't look convincing at all and needs to fill out more. The question is how much was Paul Lambert and how much was Joe Bennett in all of this? Did he do anything on loan to suggest he make the jump to PL next season?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #562 on: May 19, 2015, 11:55:06 AM »
And indeed Richardson who is pretty dodgy defensively. Both sides there must be players who can improve although on the right I would say Lowton is a better bet than Bacuna. But Timmy seems to want their attacking side to be more prominent than worrying about defensive ability

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #563 on: May 19, 2015, 12:09:01 PM »
And indeed Richardson who is pretty dodgy defensively. Both sides there must be players who can improve although on the right I would say Lowton is a better bet than Bacuna. But Timmy seems to want their attacking side to be more prominent than worrying about defensive ability

I think that is because we are now playing with 2 number 10s  and  the fullbacks  provide the attacking width and Bacuna is more suited to that  ?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #564 on: May 19, 2015, 12:39:23 PM »
What level? Signing players from teams that are better than us? I hope so.

Newcastle aren't better than us and Albion and Palace are only higher than us because they've had their managers longer than we've had Sherwood for.

I think you misread my post.

I seem to have quoted the wrong quote and missed a page when I commented. So quite an impressive screw up. I hadn’t been long out of work is my excuse.

Taylor's a solid left back but I think Sherwood would probably want someone a bit more attack minded.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #565 on: May 19, 2015, 02:05:42 PM »
I think because Bruce has changed system a few times, Robertson has been in and out. He tends to play wing back more I think, while Figeurora steps in for a flat back four. So that would possibly leave question marks on Robertson defensively I suppose.
I'd say so - if it's thought that he isn't defensively strong enough to play in a back four for Hull, I'd be concerned about his suitability to do so for us.

It's not as if Sherwood has shown any inclination to play something other than a normal back four.

Besides, we've got our own "defensively ropey but gets forward well" left back in Bennett without spending more money on another one.

Hull relative said this about him.

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Diamond in the rough. Very good going forward, but he's made a couple of mistakes that have cost us. Great crosser too, but also been crocked a few times so Brady has taken his spot

 Gets exposed in 352, better suited for 442 which we don't do.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #566 on: May 19, 2015, 02:23:09 PM »
And indeed Richardson who is pretty dodgy defensively. Both sides there must be players who can improve although on the right I would say Lowton is a better bet than Bacuna. But Timmy seems to want their attacking side to be more prominent than worrying about defensive ability

Let's be realistic, if you was in Tim's shoes, would you not have gone about the remaining games as he has done.
We couldn't score in a brothel under PL regime.

He has installed an attacking mentality which has worked, outplayed most teams whilst under his charge with the exception of the saints.
Next season will see slight changes in the fact he realises how poor our defence is.
Also, I believe there will be quite a few changes, he is not going to belittle or be derogatory about any players whilst in our great escape and fa cup final, who would that help...
He has correctly made everybody a part of the team, but that will change after fa cup final day.... That's when things start to become interesting...

Maybe, he doesn't like the way we are so Benteke focused, maybe he wants the revenue from him to buy more players who could score from all over the park, we just don't know ?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #567 on: May 19, 2015, 02:33:17 PM »
And indeed Richardson who is pretty dodgy defensively. Both sides there must be players who can improve although on the right I would say Lowton is a better bet than Bacuna. But Timmy seems to want their attacking side to be more prominent than worrying about defensive ability

Let's be realistic, if you was in Tim's shoes, would you not have gone about the remaining games as he has done.

Sherwood himself made that pretty clear with his "we're not the sort of side to grind out results to get ourselves out of troube, we're going to have to go for it" thing.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #568 on: May 19, 2015, 02:46:18 PM »
There has been lots of fun, expansive football, but those narrow 1-0 wins against Spurs and West Ham were pretty grindy. Particularly the Spurs one.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #569 on: May 19, 2015, 02:56:15 PM »
But they weren't backs to the wall type of wins. 2nd half Tottenham offered very little and the better team won. i'm still struggling to remember how we were supposedly hanging on in the end v West Ham as I thought we were comfortable other than 1 or 2 scares which were nothing more than balls being put into our box.

 


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