Guzan v Given

[aj2k77]

Because he's got to be stronger than that. If you can't catch it or tip it over, put a fist on it. Even before Coleman did anything he didn't seem comfortable. Those situations just aren't something that are a strength of his game, never has been.

I get your point but it should have been blown for a foul and we shouldn't have to play giant bastards in goal simply because they can deal with getting fouled better. Some of the shit I've seen given as free kicks for fouls on goalies.

If it was the other way round he would have blown. The fucker Clattenberg had a hard on for Everton all game, they were very niggly.

[Tony Erdington]

clattenberg has got a toffee up his ring piece


best referee in the country , as far as refereeing goes were fucked.

[OCD]

To echo OzVilla on the post-match thread, I usually rate Clattenberg but he was terrible today. I think it was a penalty but there was no protection against persistent fouling and of course, the freekick that wasn't awarded.

[Risso]

Clatttenburg was abysmal today. 

[Legion]

He was far worse than that.

[Rudy65]

Because he's got to be stronger than that. If you can't catch it or tip it over, put a fist on it. Even before Coleman did anything he didn't seem comfortable. Those situations just aren't something that are a strength of his game, never has been.

I havent seen it since, but it looked like he didnt get off the ground properly for the punch. I think he needs to be stronger. Maybe an age thing?

Guzan gives me more confidence

[OCD]

Because he's got to be stronger than that. If you can't catch it or tip it over, put a fist on it. Even before Coleman did anything he didn't seem comfortable. Those situations just aren't something that are a strength of his game, never has been.

I havent seen it since, but it looked like he didnt get off the ground properly for the punch. I think he needs to be stronger. Maybe an age thing?

Guzan gives me more confidence

I don't see how age would be a factor, commanding his 18 yard box has never been one of his strengths. He's best known for shot stopping.

[john e]

First of all i am a self confessed Guzan super fan

I sat behind the goal today and Given never put a foot wrong the whole game apart from the bit at the end,
 in fairness Everton never really tested him, the couple of shots they did have were straight at him, but his handling was good throughout

His problem is in the air, and Guzan would win out on that one,
 but the thing that is noticeably a lot better over Guzan is the kicking, the ball was landing right on top of Bentekes head virtually every time, I was really impressed with that, and in general his kick outs were just loads better

I personally would have to bring back Guzan as soon as I could as he is the future and for me one of the best in the prem, but Given does have his qualities especially the kicking one which is a big thing in today's football

[dave.woodhall]

Every promising keeper goes through a bad patch. They either come out of it the better for the experience, or they're Scott Carson. I was glad Given played today because at the moment he's the more reliable of the two and it's a time for cool heads. But we need a new keeper for next season even only as back-up because Given's not getting any younger and I've not seen anything from Jed Steer that makes me think he'll be good enough for a long while.

[silhillvilla]

Given has done well today, marshals the defence well. Experience is vital at times like this.

[peter w]

I agree. i think that Guzan's time has come and gone. he sums up our time under Lambert and as well as he has played he's run out of brownie points. We need to buy a new number 1 for next season and say thanks Brad, but time to move on. My eldest will be gutted .

[curiousorange]

Goalkeeper's one of the hardest positions to fill. I think quite a lot of the time you have to be content to have a good example rather than a great one, because a young keeper can be promising and never kick on, or they can be so good that they move immediately to a big club and spend their career there.

[silhillvilla]

Fair play to sherwood , he's shown he won't tolerate mediocre performances.

[curiousorange]

Guzan had another chance at the Villa out of nowhere. He's done fantastically well, but I agree with another poster above - it's time to move on from the Lambert era in a good many ways.

[Des Little]

Brave but ultimately good move by Sherwood. That cock up by Guzan last week was clearly the final straw. Given deserves the last 4 games.