Cameron Betrays Us

[Toronto Villa]

9 pages? We all definitely need to get out more!

Blimey, you're right. I'm tapping out on this one. Way more important things to do and talk about.

[Risso]

Are you saying that you don't know about one of the most iconic moments in the club's history?

Well I could tell you a fair amount about most seasons from about 1980 onwards and a reasonable amount about things like the 57 final and other stuff from our earlier glory days.  The 70s period, not so much I'm afraid, other than the 75 and 77 league cup wins, and then only from reading about them.

[olaftab]

I would think that if you are a fan and born say 1990 onwards you would know almost everything about 82 just like I know almost all the stories about 57.

[django]

I find it weird that people wouldn't feel strongly enough about politicians who they disagree with to call them all the names under the sun. Politics encompasses everything that matters, if you can't get wound up by that what can you get wound up about?

With the league cup final, the wrong date is all over the internet, including Wikipedia, putting it down as 1976. People who weren't born/sentient beings at the time should probably get cut a bit of slack, whether they be Tories or Karl Marx or whoever. People of whatever age who claim to be Villa fans and don't know about the European Cup are missing out on a ripping yarn if nothing else.

[TopDeck113]

And to expand on olaftab's point, there will be no one alive who remembers Villa in the 19th century, but I'd imagine most genuine fans would know by the time they reach adulthood that we are one of the few clubs that have done the Double.  Just don't ask me who scored the goals when we beat Everton in the Cup Final... 

[PeterWithesShin]

I bet there are plenty who go to a shed load of games every year who wouldn't have a clue who Rinder, Athersmith, Devey etc are.

[IFWaters]

I find it weird that people wouldn't feel strongly enough about politicians who they disagree with to call them all the names under the sun. Politics encompasses everything that matters, if you can't get wound up by that what can you get wound up about?

With the league cup final, the wrong date is all over the internet, including Wikipedia, putting it down as 1976. People who weren't born/sentient beings at the time should probably get cut a bit of slack, whether they be Tories or Karl Marx or whoever. People of whatever age who claim to be Villa fans and don't know about the European Cup are missing out on a ripping yarn if nothing else.

I do find it weird. Calling people c**ts because they have a different point of view, followed their convictions and led a political party in a democracy isn't what I think is acceptable. Why is insulting derogatory language OK ? If you went into a hospital, school, shop or office and used that language you would be rightly thrown out or arrested.

And by the way I think he was foolish not to give an on the spot correction or apology, it reinforces a view that its all a false put-on. But I wouldn't call him a c**t for it.

[Chris Jameson]

He's a Scunthorpe supporter, he's putting the etc....

[old man villa fan]

How long does it take for reality to change ideology. Living in the past or moving on with the ever changing world.

Neither Labour or Tories are the same as they were 40 years ago or more, however much the media try to present them.

[adrenachrome]

I think Amfy has it spot on. He isn't a football supporter but as his uncle (?) William Dugdale was our chairman in the 70s if he had to choose a team it would be us.

I find the whole spectacle of politicians specifically, and celebs generally, professing to love a team really irritating.

Out of interest, do they do this with rugby or cricket?

Yes, Amfy has the the size and shape of it, or the crux as we say in the old country.

A professed allegiance to a rugby union or cricket club would not achieve much in the common people credibility stakes. Maybe DC should smoke some fags and play some pool and pretend he never went to school.

[olaftab]

I bet there are plenty who go to a shed load of games every year who wouldn't have a clue who Rinder, Athersmith, Devey etc are.

There are plenty who go to a shed load of games who don't have a clue as to why they are there but they don't talk about it on national media.

[PeterWithesShin]

I bet there are plenty who go to a shed load of games every year who wouldn't have a clue who Rinder, Athersmith, Devey etc are.

There are plenty who go to a shed load of games who don't have a clue as to why they are there but they don't talk about it on national media.

Because they aren't asked.

[Steve R]

He's a Scunthorpe supporter, he's putting the etc....

Certainly stealing that one.

[PeterWithesShin]

th in the?

[SoccerHQ]

It was a sort of roll your eyes moment when it came on the news he'd said this.

In fairness I can't be bothered to watch the video but in terms of reading the quote I just assumed because he was in London talking to a group he just said support a London team and West Ham was mentioned although it maybe appears not.

I doubt anyone on here is under the impression he's some dyed in the wool Villa fan, same for a few of our other "celebrity" fans, some we're rather not be associated with and others I think are quite cool like Tom Hanks but again he's someone who vaguely supports the club for various reasons.